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    Default basic bf lock

    so i am looking to fine tune my warlock

    bf - completionist 36 points

    have most of the older gear, but working on new

    warlock
    Warlock 20
    True Neutral Bladeforged


    Stats
    . . . . . . . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
    . . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . --------
    Strength. . . . .8. . . .+6. . . .4: CON
    Dexterity . . . .6. . . .+6. . . .8: CON
    Constitution. . 20. . . .+6. . . 12: CON
    Intelligence. . 12. . . .+6. . . 16: CON
    Wisdom. . . . . .6. . . .+6. . . 20: CON
    Charisma. . . . 18. . . .+6. . . 24: CON
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: CON


    Skills
    . . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    Spellcr . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    UMD . . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Bluff . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 3. 21
    Search. . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    . . . . .12. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5



    Feats

    .1. . . . : Maximize Spell
    .1 Warlock: Pact: Great Old One
    .3. . . . : Empower Spell
    .6. . . . : Mental Toughness
    .9. . . . : Shield Proficiency
    12. . . . : Shield Mastery
    15. . . . : Improved Shield Mastery
    18. . . . : Adamantine Body
    21 Epic . : Wellspring of Power
    24 Epic . : Intensify Spell
    26 Destiny: Epic Arcane Eldritch Blast
    27 Epic . : Ruin
    28 Destiny: Hellball
    29 Destiny: Dire Charge
    30 Epic . : Greater Ruin
    30 Legend : Scion of: Celestia


    Enhancements (85 of 80 AP) - Errors

    Tainted Scholar (41 AP)
    • Tainted Spellcasting, Tainted Lore, Stanch, Tainted Lore II, Blood Component, Heretical Lore
      1. Planar Power III, Feigned Health III, Command II, Strong Pact, Eldritch Focus III
      2. Utterdark Blast, Eldritch Chain Shape, Strong Pact, Wand and Scroll Mastery III
      3. Confusion III, Strong Pact, Charisma
      4. Bewitching Blast II, Strong Pact, Charisma

    Enlightened Spirit (33 AP)
    • Eldritch Aura, Aura of Courage, Shape Vestments, Aura of Menace, Celestial Spirit
      1. Resilience of Body III, Spiritual Defense II, Resilience of Soul III
      2. Spiritual Bastion II, Power of Enlightenment III, Shield
      3. Eldritch Burst III, Spiritual Ward III, Power of Enlightenment III
      4. Brilliance
      5. Spirit Blast III

    Bladeforged (11 AP)
    • Improved Fortification
      1. Mechanist II
      2. Communion of Scribing III

    yes i know that i have 87 or points. i need to wittle that down.
    i ran up to 30 as a 18 2 warlock pally - switching to full lock.
    i went es with se t5 to play with wave. it just doesnt suit my playstyle with targeting and such

    i really like the capstone from ts, but not sure about the rest of the tree.

    so tear it down so i can build it up.

    as for gear - what i am using right now -
    lenses from the illusiory larcenry quest - swap for search google when neccessary
    crafted con 13 repair amp docent
    panospic circlet - heroic version need to farm the epic version
    gs hp belt
    devil boots
    quiver of alacrity
    random spell power buffs/resistance for most of the rest
    slavers trinket - epic version
    earthen mantle - heroic version

    so my gear can use some work as well

    thoughts?

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    Going tier 5 in one tree and capstone in the other doesn't work with the 11 points required in bladeforged for reconstruct SLA. All you are getting from the heavy ES spend is the spirit blast, 3d6 and knockdown immunity and a tiny amount of PRR/MRR when you can instead take eldritch ball that also has targeting issues but it's been reported that it is double-proc'ing so it's over double damage of spirit blast.

    With the 11 Pt bladeforged spend for repair SLA I would go 41 in one tree (tier 5 and capstone) and then squeeze in whatever you can get from the other. It's basically a survivability vs. dps trade-off so the better one depends mostly on gear, preference and your own experience.

    Spirit Blast, Eldritch Burst, Energy Burst, Divine Wrath and Aura all work very well together. Spirit blast damage is sufficiently low since the 2 nerfs that it's not really needed in an epic rotation so the eldritch ball gives you a nice option from distance and then others can be used at close range.

    As long as you can survive without the ES defenses I think your best AP spend is 11 Bladeforged, 41 Tainted Scholar and 28 ES. In my opinion this is the optimal spend for a bladeforged, but if survivability is an issue 11 bladeforged, 41 ES, 28 Tainted Scholar.

    The DPS boost at level 20 for the TS capstone is about 8.5% if your crit chance is 50%. With lower crit chance or with 5-peice LGS the dps boost is less:

    Calcs assume Scion of Fire and no LGS boosts:

    Without TS Capstone: 100 Base Damage, 100 Crit Base Damage, 25 Scion of Fire, 30 Core 2 and 4

    255% * 50% + 100% * 50% = 177.5% damage on average

    With TS Capstone: 100 Base Damage, 100 Crit Base Damage, 25 Scion of Fire, 30 Core 2 and 4, 30 Capstone

    285% * 50% + 100% * 50% = 192.5% damage on average

    192.5% / 177.5% = 1.0845, i.e., approximately a 8.5% dps boost with the capstone (not counting loss of 3d6 light spellpower or extra TS spellpower which are close enough to be immaterial).

    Your aura drops from once every 2 seconds to once every 3 seconds but that is enough to charge up empyrean magic, blood and radiance and reborn in the light. The damage from aura isn't that significant except for builds with low dps that rely mostly no the 2 low dps ES blasts and multiple aura ticks.
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    hmm interesting. was going for more damage with scion of celestia - seems that fire is better hands down

    what about the feats? am i missing anything important? can i get away with addy body or switch to mithral?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobgoblin View Post
    hmm interesting. was going for more damage with scion of celestia - seems that fire is better hands down

    what about the feats? am i missing anything important? can i get away with addy body or switch to mithral?
    Yeah I prefer fire since it works with ruin/greater ruin/arcane pulse/hellball/energy burst. The HP are nice, but the prr/mrr isn't bad.

    For level 21 you can either take wellspring of power (nice for boss fights esp) or epic eldritch blast.

    For level 24 you can either take intensify or burst of glacial wrath

    For 26 I usually take the other arcane epic eld blast feat and hellball 28.

    29 is usually arcane pulse for casters but some take dire charge for cc. ES/TS isn't really great for boss damage so i would go with arcane pulse.

    27 I usually take ruin and 30 I take greater ruin and scion of fire.

    Arcane pulse is nice becasue it stacks up to 5 times and metamagic is based on the last cast. So what I usually do is throw the first 4 stacks quickly with no meta (8 spell points) and then cast a 5th stack fully meta'd. The stacks only need to be renewed every 15 seconds after that.
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    Do you need anything special to overcome the ASF i know you can get 15% off with racial enhancements but just a blue augment of twilight or whatever and you will be ok? what about the profeciency? you can use masters touch for armor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalHazard View Post
    Do you need anything special to overcome the ASF i know you can get 15% off with racial enhancements but just a blue augment of twilight or whatever and you will be ok? what about the profeciency? you can use masters touch for armor?
    There are a few options to get to 0% arcane spell failure with adamantine plating on a wf/bf, but I would just go with mithril plating and an augment as AP are tight on a warlock. If you want more prr there is always skyvault shield which gives 15 PRR/15MRR with no feats/ed simply by using master's touch. With 2 pal 2 more feats gives 15 more PRR and then you can get 15 more PRR for 1 twist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    There are a few options to get to 0% arcane spell failure with adamantine plating on a wf/bf, but I would just go with mithril plating and an augment as AP are tight on a warlock. If you want more prr there is always skyvault shield which gives 15 PRR/15MRR with no feats/ed simply by using master's touch. With 2 pal 2 more feats gives 15 more PRR and then you can get 15 more PRR for 1 twist.
    ok i was just asking because he has adamite body as his level 18 feat, kind of sucks that wf do not have a medium armor option.

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    Default BF WarLock is Fun

    Having played my BF warlock for the last 20 lives I have had a chance to play a bunch of builds, here is my current build, I have been soloing LE slavers in under 1 hour.

    Stormmage
    Warlock 20
    True Neutral Bladeforged


    Stats
    . . . . . . . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
    . . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . --------
    Strength. . . . .8. . . .+7. . . .4: CHA
    Dexterity . . . .6. . . .+7. . . .8: CHA
    Constitution. . 20. . . .+7. . . 12: CHA
    Intelligence. . 12. . . .+7. . . 16: CHA
    Wisdom. . . . . .6. . . .+7. . . 20: CHA
    Charisma. . . . 18. . . .+7. . . 24: CHA
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: CHA


    Skills
    . . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    Spellcr . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Concent . 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 22
    Perform . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
    Repair. . 1. . . . . . . . .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .11
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    . . . . .12. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5



    Feats

    .1. . . . : Adamantine Body
    .1 Warlock: Pact: Fiend
    .3. . . . : Completionist
    .6. . . . : Empower Spell
    .9. . . . : Maximize Spell
    12. . . . : Quicken Spell
    15. . . . : Mental Toughness
    18. . . . : Improved Mental Toughness
    21 Epic . : Wellspring of Power
    24 Epic . : Intensify Spell
    26 Destiny: Epic Arcane Eldritch Blast
    27 Epic . : Ruin
    28 Destiny: Hellball
    29 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Light
    30 Epic . : Greater Ruin
    30 Legend : Scion of: Plane of Fire


    Spells

    1. False Life, Jump, Command
    2. Ray of Exhaustion, Blur, Rage
    3. Displacement, Dimension Door, Fire Shield
    4. Evard's Black Tentacles, Teleport, Binding Chain
    5. Finger of Death, Mass Protection from Elements, Power Word: Blind
    6. Power Word: Stun, Summon Monster IX, Howl of Terror


    Enhancements (80 AP)

    Enlightened Spirit (41 AP)
    • Eldritch Aura, Aura of Courage, Shape Vestments, Aura of Menace, Celestial Spirit
      1. Resilience of Body II, Spiritual Defense III
      2. Spiritual Bastion III, Power of Enlightenment III
      3. Eldritch Burst III, Spiritual Ward III, Power of Enlightenment III, Charisma
      4. Medium Armor Proficiency, Spiritual Retribution III, Charisma
      5. Spirit Blast III, Shining Through, Displacement

    Tainted Scholar (26 AP)
    • Tainted Spellcasting, Tainted Lore, Stanch, Tainted Lore II
      1. Planar Power III, Feigned Health III, Strong Pact
      2. Utterdark Blast, Eldritch Chain Shape, Strong Pact
      3. Strong Pact, Charisma
      4. Strong Pact, Charisma

    Bladeforged (12 AP)
    • Improved Fortification, Warforged Constitution, Improved Fortification II, Warforged Constitution II
      1. (none)
      2. Communion of Scribing III

    Soul Eater (1 AP)
    • Inhuman Understanding


    Destiny (24 AP)

    Shiradi Champion
    1. Healing Spring III, Illusion of Well Being III
    2. Prism, Fey Spring II, Fey Form III
    3. Rainbow
    4. Double Rainbow
    5. Stand and Deliver, Nerve Venom III
    6. Audience with the Queen

    Twists of Fate (35 fate points)
    1. Energy Burst: Fire (Tier 4 Draconic)
    2. Empyrean Magic (Tier 3 Crusader)
    3. Flames of Purity (Tier 2 Crusader)
    4. Endless Faith (Tier 1 Exalted)
    5. Radiant Power (Tier 1 Exalted)


    Generally I end up with 3k HPs, 4k Mana, 150 AC, 140 PPR / 100 MMR

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalHazard View Post
    ok i was just asking because he has adamite body as his level 18 feat, kind of sucks that wf do not have a medium armor option.
    Mithril Body feat for Warforged and Battleforged is the medium armour choice for those races. You can even stack in the dodge based feats as well, to help some at the cost of other feats of course.
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