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    Default Doesn't Work with Handwraps. ~~~ Various Tests and Feedback.

    ACTIVELY EDITING.

    Two weapon fighting feats are not active. (Related? Whirlwind is not giving more than one hit.)

    Attack chain is “messed up.” For lack of a better phrase. Will post video later.
    Unequipping wraps shows old attack sequence. Equipping shows new. Some handwraps do not give new attack sequence.

    No crit on 19 with improved critical.
    Devastating critical allows crit on 19.
    Tier 5 shintao + 1 threat does not seem to be working: no crit on 18.
    (Pulverizer does also not give crit on 18.)

    Some handwraps are not converting to new fighting style. (E.x., Thunderforged.)
    Some handwraps are converting to new fighting style. (E.x., Starter wraps.)

    If attacking while moving a weapon is visible in the right hand. NOTE: was the conversion done as though you had a scroll in mainhand?

    Momentum swing is working! (Awesome.) However, the attack lands very late and is not a narrow cleave.
    Lay waste is working great.
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    Reserved.
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    I'm too lazy to check myself, so I shall toss in a few of my thoughts on your thread.


    10% attack speed multiplier intact?
    ToD rings still work? damage, stacking, dr breaking
    Wrap on-hit item damage immunity (particulary vs oozes, but everything else too) still works? Far lower of both hardness and durability on wraps
    Recipe for greensteel handwraps?
    Monkly combat abilities dual/double strike?
    Adamantine bypass class feature & byeshk/cold iron/silver enhancements?


    Whirlwind still works? -guess not!
    Functional attack chain? -guess not!
    TWF/ITWF/GTWF still work? -guess not!
    IC: Blunt/Devastating still work? -half!

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    Was going to post this up separately initially, but as it's about HW, I'd thought my testing data would be useful here. It confirms that most HW have been succesfully converted to the new HW Unarmed style. Whilst certain others (Thunderforged) are reverting to an older code to provide the "unarmed" portion of the effects.

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    Full Unarmed
    Vorpal Strike = Yes
    Vorpal Effect = Yes
    Holy Ring = Yes
    Shintao Set = Yes
    Stunning Fist = No
    Balanced Attacks = Yes
    Fists of Light = No


    Ivy Wraps
    Vorpal Strike = Yes
    Vorpal Effect = No
    Holy Ring = No
    Shintao Set = No
    Stunning Fist = Yes
    Balanced Attacks = Yes
    Fists of Light = No


    Grave Wrappings
    Vorpal Strike = Yes
    Vorpal Effect = No
    Holy Ring = No
    Shintao Set = No
    Stunning Fist = Yes
    Balanced Attacks = Yes
    Fists of Light = No


    +1 Icy Burst of Pure Good (+1, Pure Good, Icy Burst, Festival Icy Burst, Flaming)
    Vorpal Strike = Yes
    Vorpal Effect = No
    Holy Ring = No
    Shintao Set = No
    Stunning Fist = Yes
    Balanced Attacks = Yes
    Fists of Light = No


    Thunderforged
    Vorpal Strike = Yes
    Vorpal Effect = Yes
    Holy Ring = Yes
    Shintao Set = Yes
    Stunning Fist = No
    Balanced Attacks = Yes
    Fists of Light = No

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    Essentially:

    1. Fists of Light is not working. It doesn't provide any bonus light damage on strike. Needs damage added. BUG.
    2. Stunning Fist is correctly checking for Unarmed and Hand Wraps. Permitting only Handwraps. INFO.
    3. Linked with the above. A non Hand Wrap using "Unarmed" monk (no weapons) is unable to utilise Stunning Fist. What happens when Hand Wraps are worn and last Hand Wraps are broken? No Stunning Fist at all? BUG?
    3. Older styles of "Bonus" damage (Holy, Shintao Set, etc) apply to Unarmed only and will not apply to the new Hand Wrap (Unarmed). INFO.
    4. Vorpal Strike works with Unarmed, but not Hand Wraps. Needs to be changed to make sure it works with the new Hand Wrap (Unarmed). BUG.

    Will post more as I get them tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J1NG View Post
    3. Linked with the above. A non Hand Wrap using "Unarmed" monk (no weapons) is unable to utilise Stunning Fist. What happens when Hand Wraps are worn and last Hand Wraps are broken? No Stunning Fist at all? BUG?
    Yeah I don't think damage to your handwrap as a weapon was really thought out. Attack rate, *the* weapon of monks, etc, and its worn out city here we come! Doesn't seem to make sense to HAVE TO spend precious AP on item defence?

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    I can add the following:

    WWA functions correctly ie can proc multiple attacks (presumably off-hand and doublestrike chances):
    Thunder-forged Wraps - Yes
    Grave Wrappings - No
    Scraps of Enlightenment - No

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    You Bug Reporting this stuff, OP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Howe View Post
    You Bug Reporting this stuff, OP?
    I wonder if opening a general 'doesn't work with handwraps on lammania' bug and just including a link to the forum thread would be acceptable.
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    Also the details section of your inventory doesn't show any details when handwraps are equipped but do when you're bare handed.

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    We're aware that the current Lamannia build has some bugs with handwraps. We're working to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-u-r-eye View Post
    Lay waste is working great.

    My experience has been a bit different. The trip/knockdown seems to be working fine


    ...but the 5[W] + 1 crit damage multiplier does not seem to be working for me on lamannia

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