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    Duo on LE, was curious about the end fight. Unfortunately was disappointed. It was way too easy. I am missing some deadly element that would require some teamwork. Make it harder...it is supposed to be an end game...don't make it just an another grind fest.


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    Look at all those sorc kills.

    He must be OP
    Without new players DDO will go the way of the dodo.
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    I think our run took 22mins...

    =p

    wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-u-r-eye View Post
    Look at all those sorc kills.

    He must be OP
    Or the monkcher is a gimp (or very clever and use invis).

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    halflings are always short, never clever
    Without new players DDO will go the way of the dodo.
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    Suggestions for the endfight:

    1) Make the circles bigger, much bigger so that you cannot simply avoid them with a wings and keep the damage as it is (it seemed a bit lower this time, around 140 acid dmg per tick? I might be wrong)

    or

    2) Keep the circles this small but up the damage a lot, 4x or even 5x higher and make the Sorcerer use them a bit more frequently. That will: make people might think about using Acid dmg absorption gear and pay way more attention for where they are kiting.

    3) Something was giving me many Vulnerable stacks in a very quick succession. I like it and I would expand it further: in addition to Vulnerable stacks, make it give the PRR and a MRR debuff. MRR debuff means more Acid dmg done by the Sorcerer. A Heal Amp debuff would also work wonders here.

    4) The chain guy is a bit weak. No idea what to do for him, unless he was the one debuffing us. If he wasn't, maybe give him the Chain spell that Suulomades uses.


    Also, I guess the Illusionist's mobs cannot be changed now. Too bad, would have liked to fight the Blue Dragon and the Glabrezu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    ....give him the Chain spell that Suulomades uses.
    Also, I guess the Illusionist's mobs cannot be changed now. Too bad, would have liked to fight the Blue Dragon and the Glabrezu.
    +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    ...make it give the PRR and a MRR debuff.
    To 0....across the game....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rys View Post
    To 0....across the game....
    Only for Warlocks and Monkchers
    Quote Originally Posted by JOTMON View Post
    I don't think you get a choice.. you are Rys's minion..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    Only for Warlocks and Monkchers
    +1 (except I can't)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    Only for Warlocks and Monkchers
    Slarden's got his nerf list going in the other thread. I'm pretty sure this is mine:


    Ranged
    Repeater (pure rogue / pure ranger / 14 paladin)
    Great Crossbow (rogue or holysword)
    Great Terror (Rogue / Thrower)
    Monkcher/FuryShuri

    Melee
    Fighter (TWF / SWF / THF / Vanguard) (Tactics or no...)
    Tree build (Monk or Barbarian) (Cleric or Warlock)
    WinterWolf
    Wolf, sneakzilla
    Ranger (Dex/Str) (12 ranger vs Holy sword, tier 5 tempest)
    Paladin (TWF / SWF / THF / Vanguard / Fury smites)
    Assassin
    Barbarian (TWF / THF)
    SwashBard (Buffbot / Freezing / Fight stanced or not)


    Caster
    Wizard (DC casting)
    Warlock (Shiradi / DC)
    Archmage SupremacyShiradi builds
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    They need to have spawns of melee enemies spawn right on top of the party - with melee power boosts, speed boosts and casters that debuff party speed.

    Ranged is too much of an easy button.

    They need to finally fix known favorable bugs.

    High defenses should come with lower melee, ranged, spellpower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    They need to have spawns of melee enemies spawn right on top of the party - with melee power boosts, speed boosts and casters that debuff party speed.

    Ranged is too much of an easy button.

    They need to finally fix known favorable bugs.

    High defenses should come with lower melee, ranged, spellpower.
    Yeah, and then have spawns of LE Sorjek right on top of ONLY casters and rangers.

    And then the Book from LE Shroud that uses Greater Ruin JUST on rangers and casters.

    **** those poor melees are such in a bad shape right now, please fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    Ranged is too much of an easy button.
    It's even easier if you have a ghosting keyboard and every other key combination doesn't work. Then it's a real easy button. Though ranged should be nerfed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    Yeah, and then have spawns of LE Sorjek right on top of ONLY casters and rangers.

    And then the Book from LE Shroud that uses Greater Ruin JUST on rangers and casters.

    **** those poor melees are such in a bad shape right now, please fix.
    I run all builds with varying degress of success - so I am not really one of these people trying to make it easier or harder for builds based on what I play.

    I just think if it's too easy for builds that kill from range that is how challenge should be addressed. Not by having enemies that will never hit the ranged build hit harder. That is the wrong way to challenge builds that kill from range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    I run all builds so not really one of these people trying to make it easier or harder for builds based on what I play.

    I just think if it's too easy for builds that kill for range that is how challenge should be addressed. Not by having enemies that will never hit the ranged player hit harder.
    Yeah, Rys never got hit and neither did I. Because we are RAAAAAAAAANGED POWAAAAAAAAAH
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    Anyways.....if you guys want to discuss the powah of certain builds, go make a new thread. This one is about the content, not about the builds. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rys View Post
    Anyways.....if you guys want to discuss the powah of certain builds, go make a new thread. This one is about the content, not about the builds. Thanks!
    What is relevant is determining what we can do to make the quest more challenging to ranged/caster builds. Perhaps they can get something in before the release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    What is relevant is determining what we can do to make the quest more challenging to ranged/caster builds. Perhaps they can get something in before the release.
    Yes, that indeed is and there were couple of ideas already. Keep them coming but on topic

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    Hey do me a favor,
    And run it on a cleric...





    Lolz, joking
    Ima pike it, like everything else

    #clericlivesmatter
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