LGBT Guilds

[changelingamuck]

They can find that in a friendly guild, without the special interest modifier.

“A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person.” ~Dave Barry

That doesn't mean we need to have a waiter-friendly guild, just a plain, simple, friendly guild.

That's not how the world works for LGBT people. LGBT people can't just assume that a social space will be accepting of who they are because of, you know, prejudice.

[Enderoc]

Let's create two lines for drinking fountains one white one black. (Sarcasm)
Is division and isolationism an answer? Most people come here to simply play a game. That's it. Not spew political bullcrap or advertise religions or try to hook up.

I don't have a "married an Asian girl" T-Shirt because it's no one's business. In fact I never discuss my real world life here because I am not here for real life.

[changelingamuck]

Let's create two lines for drinking fountains one white one black. (Sarcasm)

This comparison is just so 'off' on so many levels that I don't even know where to begin... The desire of the trans person referenced in the OP to find a LGBT guild is not comparable to institutionalized segregation...

In fact I never discuss my real world life here because I am not here for real life.

It's not about your preferences for your gaming friendships. I also share next to nothing about my personal life with other people in-game. And yet, some people do. I would argue that they should feel comfortable sharing basic information about themselves...

[Uska]

Good luck to you I don't think its really a in game issue but that's up to you I play with 3 trans in my 2 roll20 groups and they brought it up and everyone was meh it didn't matter to us one way or the other the only thing that matters to me is the shared interest in the same hobby.

If you bring it up yourself and someone gives you grief report them but you should expect some people to give you grief because some people like to attack others for things that any of their business.

Good luck and good gaming

[Rivet]

Honestly you'd be hard pressed to find a guild in DDO that actually speaks to one another let alone finding one that shares like-minded interests in the real world.

[EpicWolfy]

Let's create two lines for drinking fountains one white one black. (Sarcasm)
Is division and isolationism an answer? Most people come here to simply play a game. That's it. Not spew political bullcrap or advertise religions or try to hook up.

I don't have a "married an Asian girl" T-Shirt because it's no one's business. In fact I never discuss my real world life here because I am not here for real life.

If you would read my earlier comment, you'd find that none of that is part of the issue.

[knightindullarmor]

They can find that in a friendly guild, without the special interest modifier.

“A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person.” ~Dave Barry

That doesn't mean we need to have a waiter-friendly guild, just a plain, simple, friendly guild.

Very well stated.

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In our guild (Arcane Alliance) "be polite" is the only real rule. Nobody cares if you are gay, straight, green, blue, smooth, fuzzy. Anyone acting in a rude manner to other guild members (or even non-guild members) is not going to be tolerated. Now if you say you are playing a cleric or favored soul and get a party invite and then refuse to ever throw a heal or res... or if you say you are a tank and you have no intimidate and cannot draw aggro away from the healers and casters... THEN we are going to have an issue. But nobody cares about RL stuff. Sure, after a while in a guild where you interact over voice chat with people, you can get friendly ("how is your broken leg healing, bob?", "how was your son's wedding, sally?") but most decent folks won't stay in a guild if the members are going to be intolerant of something as non-consequential (to gameplay) as sexual orientation. I have yet to experience one instance in DDO where someone was targeted in comments or disincluded due to any 'demographic' factor. Now, I have seen game-related factors ("Sorry, we already have 2 ranged characters that can trap, 2 tanks, and a caster. If you want to switch to a healer or caster you can join our party, but we don't have room for another arti or fighter."), but this is to be expected in a game where having a diversity of character classes helps your group.

[NaturalHazard]

Recently met a trans person on Cannith. She's new to the game and I was giving her advice and guilds came up. I think there was a LGBT guild on Cannith, but I can't recall the name. Anyone know?

(yes, I could invite her to my guild. we're not specifically LGBT friendly, though. more like "don't cause drama and we'll be fine" friendly. I'd like to give her options on guilds if I can.)

they might not be interested in a LGBT guild, they might be more interested in a guild with similar playstlye's for example but who knows?

[TheWalruss]

Since the online chatroom was merged with immersive graphics, people have come to MMORPGs for inspiration, conversation and reasons pertaining to everyday life.

I think Second Life was the first online game to experiment with identity and exploration and it was pathbreaking in making it obvious to so many people how online games could be used to test and explore facets of offline life.

With World of Warcraft, this interest turned to MMORPGs. It was the first big source of inspiration for researchers, artists, anthropologists, economists, political scientists, ethnographers, cyber feminists, and I could go on.

What they did was to take a serious interest in how players used online worlds to form communities with different topics of interest. They made rules and guidelines for in-group behavior and differentiated their group from others depending on how 'the other' was conceptualized. (E.g. pve vs. pvp, zerg vs. team play, gaymer vs. gamer, etc.)

I don't see why DDO should limit itself to a much more narrow idea of 'the player' and why 'the player' shouldn't be allowed to use guilds to form communities of interest.

The most popular guild in the Recruitment section is a guild targeted at a restricted demographic, just like an LGBT guild would be. The criteria are just different. I don't see that guild getting any criticism, say, for being ageist.

If the community isn't there, make it. That's what online games are there for.

[tankerschnitzl]

I have a small guild ( level 42) that's just me and a few other friends (who don't log on anymore). I'd be happy to turn it into an LTBTQA+ group. I am on Argo. PM if you're interested.