Update 32 on Lamannia: Cannith Crafting Preview

[ramzes7asit4]

Don't have access to the game to double check.

But the wiki lists healing amp as only available on Gloves and Trinkets. I'm pretty sure it drops on armor as well in current random loot. Is that WAI?

I make this table with info that I gathered in Lamania. Maybe I miss something (it's absolutely possible). I will update the wiki page (http://ddowiki.com/page/Talk:Cannith_Crafting/U32) when something changes (add new non scaling recipes, Live release).
In DDOcast 440 Devs says: random and crafted items have one list of prefix, suffix and extra (if this bonus exist in both versions)...
But in Lamania I can't find usage for "Insight spell focus"... So, maybe all this will be fixed later.

[slarden]

I make this table with info that I gathered in Lamania. Maybe I miss something (it's absolutely possible). I will update the wiki page (http://ddowiki.com/page/Talk:Cannith_Crafting/U32) when something changes (add new non scaling recipes, Live release).
In DDOcast 440 Devs says: random and crafted items have one list of prefix, suffix and extra (if this bonus exist in both versions)...
But in Lamania I can't find usage for "Insight spell focus"... So, maybe all this will be fixed later.

I ran into the same issue because I thought it was possible with the scaling insightful spell focus ended up as +3 also. I don't recall ever seeing insightful spell focus on random loot although if it's rare it's possible it does exist.

I think it might be there by mistake and not usable because it's not in random loot so there are 0 spots it can go to.

I am guessing the right answer is remove it from the recipe list since it can't go on any items, however, if they want to let go on trinkets that might be cool.

[TPICKRELL]

I make this table with info that I gathered in Lamania. Maybe I miss something (it's absolutely possible). I will update the wiki page (http://ddowiki.com/page/Talk:Cannith_Crafting/U32) when something changes (add new non scaling recipes, Live release).
In DDOcast 440 Devs says: random and crafted items have one list of prefix, suffix and extra (if this bonus exist in both versions)...
But in Lamania I can't find usage for "Insight spell focus"... So, maybe all this will be fixed later.

I wanted to be clear that I'm not criticizing anyone here, just pointing out a possible discrepancy.

I very much appreciate the work you did in compiling all of this info for the DDO community!

Thank you very very very much!!!!

[ramzes7asit4]

I wanted to be clear that I'm not criticizing anyone here, just pointing out a possible discrepancy.

I very much appreciate the work you did in compiling all of this info for the DDO community!

Thank you very very very much!!!!

I din't see any critics!=)

[Aelonwy]

I ran into the same issue because I thought it was possible with the scaling insightful spell focus ended up as +3 also. I don't recall ever seeing insightful spell focus on random loot although if it's rare it's possible it does exist.

I think it might be there by mistake and not usable because it's not in random loot so there are 0 spots it can go to.

I am guessing the right answer is remove it from the recipe list since it can't go on any items, however, if they want to let go on trinkets that might be cool.

I'm a little confused are we talking about a generic insightful spell focus to all spells? or a specific individual insightful spell focus like enchant etc. Because I've seen the individual insightful bonuses, on goggles for instance in the new random gen, but I don't believe I've ever seen a generic insightful spell focus ever.

[slarden]

I'm a little confused are we talking about a generic insightful spell focus to all spells? or a specific individual insightful spell focus like enchant etc. Because I've seen the individual insightful bonuses, on goggles for instance in the new random gen, but I don't believe I've ever seen a generic insightful spell focus ever.

insightful spell focus to all spells. It's a craftable shard, but I don't recall ever seeing it on random loot and the system wont' let me attach it to any items. It says "not compatible with this machine" or something like that.

[ramzes7asit4]

I'm a little confused are we talking about a generic insightful spell focus to all spells? or a specific individual insightful spell focus like enchant etc. Because I've seen the individual insightful bonuses, on goggles for instance in the new random gen, but I don't believe I've ever seen a generic insightful spell focus ever.

Insightful spell focus to all schools. The insight bonus to the individual schools can be found on goggles (random and craft).

insightful spell focus to all spells. It's a craftable shard, but I don't recall ever seeing it on random loot and the system wont' let me attach it to any items. It says "not compatible with this machine" or something like that.

Yeah. Some text appears with next shard: insight spell focus (to all schools), riposte, bleeding and maiming.

[PuppiesAndRainbows]

Known Issues in Cannith Crafting:

• We are continuing to work on a mass deconstruction method.

Will old shards have the option to be deconstructed after the update?

I ask because I've got hundreds of crafted shards, no idea how long it will take to deconstruct all of them.
Crafted most types of shards for leveling, just kept them thinking I might use them someday.

[dunklezhan]

Will old shards have the option to be deconstructed after the update?

I ask because I've got hundreds of crafted shards, no idea how long it will take to deconstruct all of them.
Crafted most types of shards for leveling, just kept them thinking I might use them someday.

I think they said no to this a while back. Get them crunched now and trade in the essences after the update, or make your existing shards into items to keep.

[Zzevel]

What about changing some of the lower level crafting levels to Khyber and Siberys Dragonshards rather than Eberron ones .. They drop more prevelently and they can be built up to different levels for different strengths of enhancement that you are trying to add...

http://ddowiki.com/page/Dragonshard

[dunklezhan]

What about changing some of the lower level crafting levels to Khyber and Siberys Dragonshards rather than Eberron ones .. They drop more prevelently and they can be built up to different levels for different strengths of enhancement that you are trying to add...

http://ddowiki.com/page/Dragonshard

http://eberron.wikia.com/wiki/Progenitor_Dragons

Thematically, it makes sense for Eberron fragments - the giver and importantly creator of life. Siberys and especially Khyber are... not that.

Though from a mechanics point of view, I tend to agree with you. Alternatives would be nice.

Edit: copied and trimmed from a linked page on the same site:

Siberys shards fall from the Ring of Siberys that encircles Eberron. .....The resulting proliferation of Siberys shard items range from devices focused on enhancing the power of a specific mark to generalized tools that work for anyone who bears a dragonmark.


Khyber shards are found beneath the earth near layers of magma or sulfur vents, typically growing on volcanic cavern walls. ... Khyber shard items have an affinity for binding magic. They are common components of binding diagrams, soul trapping spells and similar magic associated with binding creatures.


Eberron shards are found buried in shallow soil in clusters encased in geodes. They are found only in Khorvaire and Aerenal*. ... Eberron shard items store magical energy or psionic power as spellbooks, spell-storing items or psionic power stones. Intelligent magical items often incorporate Eberron shards. Their magical affinity is very broad compared to the specific powers of Siberys and Khyber shards.


(*clearly not in the case of DDO.)

[Aelonwy]

insightful spell focus to all spells. It's a craftable shard, but I don't recall ever seeing it on random loot and the system wont' let me attach it to any items. It says "not compatible with this machine" or something like that.

Thank you for clearing up my confusion.

Thank you ramzes7asit4 too.

[Aletys]

I ran into the same issue because I thought it was possible with the scaling insightful spell focus ended up as +3 also. I don't recall ever seeing insightful spell focus on random loot although if it's rare it's possible it does exist.

I think it might be there by mistake and not usable because it's not in random loot so there are 0 spots it can go to.

I am guessing the right answer is remove it from the recipe list since it can't go on any items, however, if they want to let go on trinkets that might be cool.

It is very rare, but I have at least one insightful spell focus item. So they do exist in the new random lootgen.

By the same token, I just picked up a cloak with wisdom on it last night (Prudent +9 Cloak of something). It is most definitely in the new lootgen (it was a prefix), but it's not listed in any table I've seen, nor could I apply it to a cloak on Lamannia.

[slarden]

It is very rare, but I have at least one insightful spell focus item. So they do exist in the new random lootgen.

By the same token, I just picked up a cloak with wisdom on it last night (Prudent +9 Cloak of something). It is most definitely in the new lootgen (it was a prefix), but it's not listed in any table I've seen, nor could I apply it to a cloak on Lamannia.

Wisdom is listed in the wiki as a valid prefix:

http://ddowiki.com/page/Talk:Cannith_Crafting/U32

[ramzes7asit4]

It is very rare, but I have at least one insightful spell focus item. So they do exist in the new random lootgen.

By the same token, I just picked up a cloak with wisdom on it last night (Prudent +9 Cloak of something). It is most definitely in the new lootgen (it was a prefix), but it's not listed in any table I've seen, nor could I apply it to a cloak on Lamannia.

Look here: http://ddowiki.com/page/Talk:Cannith...y_slot_by_item
Please link image of you item with insight spell focus (to all school at once, not like Insight Evocation +3).
Item like this
isnt very rare.

[UurlockYgmeov]

And Lamannia is now down.

[Nubom70]

There is a single school for the new Cannith Crafting system. The level cap is 400, and your previously-earned Cannith Crafting XP will be added together and carried over.
Level 50: 1,256 Cannith Crafting XP
Level 100: 7,313 XP
Level 150: 30,151 XP
Level 260: 245,580 <- where current maxed out crafters will end up.
Level 340: 472,752 XP
Level 400: 650,040 XP


Short version: If you were capped before, you're not even halfway done now. Good luck.

[Ziindarax]

And Lamannia is now down.

Gonna reiterate - why did they close this so soon? Shouldn't Cannith have been up a little bit longer to allow for more thorough testing?

[ramzes7asit4]

Gonna reiterate - why did they close this so soon? Shouldn't Cannith have been up a little bit longer to allow for more thorough testing?

I think they add non-scalable effect like "true sight". I hope Lamania will open again in a few days.

[slarden]

Gonna reiterate - why did they close this so soon? Shouldn't Cannith have been up a little bit longer to allow for more thorough testing?

Lamannia is a preview server. Being up for just a weekend is very much the norm. We will likely have another chance this weekend as Sev said U32 can be out as early as late August. The crafting had some issues, but was further along than I expected.