Endgame radiant AA cleric 13/4/3 Priest of the Silver Flame

[Vish]

I thought you were maxing wis, why are you "wisdom short"?

I'm using +6 goggles ATM. Could be using +10/11 equipment.
Went looking found some +5 +2 enchant goggles at 27.
Will make a switch then to regear. Maybe move sheltering to new spot.
It'll all wash out at 30.
I was running some EE Gianthold tonite. Was doing fair at paralyzingly. Sometimes multiple tries. Think wisdom only at 50 ATM. So some new gear at 27 should push the dc 10 more.
Plus, oh I forgot. Was gonna wisdom the bow. But not flagged yet at I need to transfer my ingredients over. So that will be in next few levels.

[Vish]

Update6
Level 30. Updated stats on first post.
Ok so something of a monster cleric, with the right gear.
Can paralyze anything just about. Good hp, sp and defenses.
Makes running quests easy, but is no dps monster. But awesome support.
Made the bow. Still need to insight +7 wis. will do that on another run. Has to be triple earth. Which is good cause I use corrosive. Getting wisdom to 60 with insight or shiradi.
The only shortcomings is aura turns. Need to slot a cha item. And I can get positive to 600 with a better devotion item. Working on putting it together. Has 11 at 30. Good enough since I rarely use 10 in a run, and they regenerate.
Plays real easy support, mostly pikes, but good for raids.
I wasn't impressed leveling it, mostly a gearing and playstyle toon.
But at 30 it's rocking.
Decided to take combat archery, since enlarge just isn't needed.
Running in us for raids and seeing aura tick for 175. Otherwise run in shiradi leveling.

I wanted to tr into warlock, but might etr and wait it out for slave lords. Got a couple weeks. That could be a couple more etr.

Overall doesnt mesh as well as my melee cleric for melee support, but this being Kil, he has better gear and tomes, so come out looking better. I think this is a solid support toon.
And playing paralyzers has been a blast. And dps is about same or better than thf melee. Plus it's just easier targeting and not much running around.
I can still stand in middle of combat and glow. Did fine in shroud, DOJ and tempest.

I think this is premier ranged cleric build that's radiant.

I'll post a gear breakdown.

[Vish]

Update7
Gear layout at 30.

Head. Pansophic circlet
Neck. Devotion item (looking for 150+)
Trinket planar compass
Eyes. Enchant +6 +3
Armor. Plate mail of celestial sage
Cloak. Mysterious cloak
Bracers epic barbettes
Belt. Open, dodge10 nat armor9
Ring1. Corrosion +24 +156
Ring2. Con +11 +5
Boots. Str/dex +14
Gloves. Iron mitts
Weapon. LGS bow +15 +7 wisdom (wis 60 in us, 66 in shiradi)
Quiver. Epic dynamistic

Pos 615 (could be 650 with better devotion)
Hamp 185
Prr/mrr 160/103
Dodge 9%

So this is my layout. Not optimal but covers the bases.
Looking ATM for better devotion, or will augment. That leave neck open. Could put lions mane in there.
Barbettes not best but in there.
Belt not best but good defenses, dodge 9%.
Con ring needs upgrade, or could go to bracers, opening ring for healing lore/ devotion item. Which opens neck.
Gloves not best, need hamp double shot maybe, but quiver covers.

Decided to etr until slave lords come out.

[Vish]

Decided to tr my main vishantii into this build
He is a battlecleric,
But seein he is head of the silver flame jokers
I thought I had better stay true.
This will be my quest this year to get him ready for the expansion
Remember, rise of the clerics
But this is a deadly cc build that will work better in slavers
I created Vishs build when there was lag, and he has extra sp
Now I'm gonna reroll him into a bow build

[Vish]

Vish lvl 15
Str 18 +2
Dex 28 +3
Con 28 +2
Int 16 +2
Wis 32 +3
Cha 18 +2
Hp 404
Sp 745
AC 48
Fort 32
Reflex 26
Will 31
Sr 0
Fort 126
Prr 65
Mrr 39
Pos 185
Hamp 41

Heal 42
Spellcraft 34
Jump 18
Umd 13


At 13, took improved precise shot
That frees up 18 for sf: enchantment
And at 30 greater sf:enchantment.
So adds +2 to dc for paralyzer

Spells
Prot from evil, shield of faith, bless, clw, divine favor, nightshield, longstrider
Close wounds, cmw, seek eternal rest, resist energy, sound burst
Csw, water breathing, prayer, prot from energy, magic circle
Death ward, restoration, ccw, freedom of movement

Gear
Helm halcyonia
Neck rng sheltering 13
Eyes cc 3enchantment2
Trinket dusk
Body leaves of forest
Cloak of invisibility
Bracers rng str6
Belt rng con7 nat armor6
Ring1 rng cha6 corrosion73
Ring2 tumbleweed
Boots of the innocent
Gloves rng heal amp21

Bow +4 speed7 doubleshot3
Quiver of poison


Aa 24
Std 13
Ds 6
Rs 12
Human 5

Notes
Listed tomes next to stats. Nothing over 3, on a fourth life cleric with one epic past life.
This year, wisdom, dex and con +6 tomes. And slavers gear.
The build is working beautifully,
Paralyzers in reaper ftw
Can dual support, cc and heals
Scrolling raise dead and bursting
Being a big bonus in reaper
On elite, anybody can Zerg
Loving level 15
Wearing sweet armor and helm, a striking picture

[Vish]

Level 21
Rolled 20, reset ap to radiant
Took focus enchantment at 18

Ap
32 rs core4, +3 caster levels, regenerating turns, aura
22 aa paralyzers
13 stalwartd tenacious d
8 ds full empathy, imp weapon finesse
5 human +20 hamp

Two stances, shiradi and sentinel
Offense/defense(reaper)

Shiradi
+6 wis, double rainbow, nerve venom
Str 22
Dex 36
Con 35
Int 16
Wis 48
Cha 20
Hp 622
Sp 1823
AC 61
Fort 36
Reflex 31
Will 40
Bab 17
Sr 25
Fort 131
Prr 84
Mrr 77
Ranged power 29
Paralyze dc 20+19+5=44
Pos 328
Hamp 105
Aura 56
#turns 14
Twists
Divine energy
Endless faith
Healing power

sentinel
+1 con, +4 cha, strength of vitality, undying vanguard
Str 22
Dex 36
Con 36
Int 16
Wis 42
Cha 24
Hp 1106
Sp 1862
AC 73
Fort 39
Reflex 33
Will 39
Fort 151
Prr 94
Mrr 77
Ranged power 23
Paralyze dc 20+16+5=41
Pos 340
Hamp 125
Aura 95
#turns 16
Twists?*
consecration (no sacred)
Endless faith?*
healing power


Gear
Helm cc wiz203, charisma6
Neck cc 10con4, false life30, devotion115
Eyes cc 10wis4
Trinket shard enchantment4
Body Templars bastion
Cloak mysterious
Bracers cc str10, sheltering25, fort115, prot6
Belt cc nat armor10, doubleshot6
Ring1 rng acid lore13, corrosion92
Ring2 prowess
Boots rng speed9, parry4
Gloves cc 10dex4, hamp40
Roadwatch bow

Notes
So sentinel is the clear winner.
With over double hit points and aura, it is supremely ready for reaper. That's due to the +5 cleric levels.
However, I am filling out primal Ed, and putting xp into primal,
So shiradi is my best offensive stance.
I will like do dailys off destiny, and reap in us.
I haven't tested much either, so I will report on the main difference in paralyzer, which is only +3. The extra wis in shiradi.

The other thing I did was craft a trinket. Used a shard and put +4 enchantment on it. Since I had cc goggles of wisdom. And otherwise the increase isn't much from 13 to 21 on insightful enchantment for goggles. So best spread was to put it on a trinket. I could have crafted a wisdom cloak, but the hamp from mysterious is too needed in reaper for healing.

Now the other thing I'm thinking about is ap.
I'm thinking of dropping deepwood and putting points in rs for the no max level heals. See I got the +3 levels, so that makes my heals caster level 16, and heal caps at 15. And going uncapped should raise caster level to 25, or 30??
I get +40 pos from deepwood, that and dex to damage. But I could forego the weapon finesse and just take enough out to get unlimited healing. Thoughts?

[Vish]

Level 26
Took intensify and positive sp
Took advantage of buddy weekend to rocket to 26
Ran dailys and es and gh
No reaping
Waiting for today's patch to fix epic xp
Kinda fast tracking it to 30
Got a reaper group waiting there
And they need a cleric bad

That still seems to be the state of the game,
Where are the clerics?
Must be cloistered in guilds
I rarely see them running naked in pugs
But there are,
But they're still not too good a healers
But this will take time
With the influence of reaper,
There will be a greater need for healers

Vish is doing ok,
I'm not seeing the paralyzers one hit in EE
Multiple hits to get them
Still running about a 20+17+5 paralyzer
Been running in off destiny too
Filling up primal Ed
Got them near all maxed out, and 6mil karma too
Then I'll switch to sentinel and dc
Also almost have 6mil martial
Havent opened arcane yet on vish
So I'll have some options when I tr
Likely a divine
But I'll probably keep him at cap for a long while
Unless changes,
When they update clerics, I'm hoping capstones will be worthwhile

So reaping in divine
More survivability either way
Moar hit points,
Maybe I'll twist in sacred ground too
That would be double dipping
I've seen the effect of a radiant on a group
Everyone tends to gather around
That's good for reaper,
The group staying tight
But this is an archer cleric
So the vision originally,
Was perching the shroud
But now that I've got aura in epics,
I can keep it up the entire quest...
I find myself with a different tactic
I usually spray paralyzers,
Then move up to melee range, just at the edge
For the aura to get the melees
And continue to paralyze at danger close
It's working great
And I'm getting much better at switching stances,
And tossing heals
Healing is a lost art
Its quite a job to keep people alive in reaper
Almost takes a dedicated healbot,
But the aura reassures everyone,
And they take advantage of it
The whole point being
If radiants enter the reaper playground
It will go a lot easier
For everybody

[Vish]

Level 30

Gear
Head lpansophic
Neck lhypnotic pendant
Eyes rng 6enchantment3
Trinket slavers symbol w/ true blood and festive wis
Body platemail of celestial avenger w/ feather fall
Cloak mysterious w/ str7
Bracers 17wis4 devotion185 slavers
Belt 17con4 resistance14 slavers
Ring1 17cha4 umd7 slavers
Ring2 prowess
Boots ldevil commanders
Gloves cc 10dex4 hamp40
Quiver epic dynamistic
Bow LGS 150pos wisdom7

In US
Str 20
Dex 37
Con 51
Int 17
Wis 62
Cha 40
Hp 1857
Sp 2586
AC 75
Fort 68
Reflex 56
Will 75
Fort 201
Prr 148
Mrr 90
Pos 814
Hamp 145
Aura 234
#turns 24
Doubleshot 20
Ranged power 52
Paralyze
Base 20
Wis 26
Enchant 6+3+2
Enhance 2
Feat 2
Total 61

Vish at 30
Not completely maxed out, but reaper ready
Doesnt have lvl30 gloves, but they're good enough until I decide on a more final layout. Gloves would be dex15,hamp61,ins devotion79. And then I'd swap Pansophic for hardened hide to make a 5pc slavers set.
Also need a legendary prowess. Using heroic ATM.
Otherwise I'm at best numbers for a paralyzer build.
the other thing I was gonna do was put a supreme 6 tome on him. He has 2 and 3, would add 3 to wisdom.
The only other thing I could do would be run in primal for +6 wisdom.
But sentinel adds 5 cleric levels, and survivability. Paralyzers are a secondary ability that is superseded by wizards cc, but acts as great cc without one.
A word on paralyzers. I was running EE content, and running into difficulty while leveling. Not max gear at level, using cannith lvl21 stuff. But it made me doubt the build. Now I'm reaping, and finding I have to hit multiple times for a paralyze to stick. I know this is primarily a wisdom issue, but I'm running max wisdom without wis Ed. So I've relegated myself to secondary cc. Primarily I am a aura healer. It's a great concept, but now I'm reaping, and I'm thinking a pure cleric would be a better option. But it's still a great build, just not as effective as it was in heroics, where everything was a one hit paralyze.?*
Still, a priest of the silver flame.
I've also considered other splits, such as 4/1 ranger fighter, losing the stalwart defense. I'm also thinking I could make this viable on a pure, but it's feat starved. Because I'm feeling the need for death pact as a safety, but I'm wondering, the Rez timer in reaper may be longer than the accept time for pact. Especially high reaper, the Rez timer is longer. It's a conundrum.

But I'm happy vish is back at cap, and delving into daily reapers.

[96th_Malice]

My very first toon here 11 years ago was a bow using Cleric

REASON

I wanted to use bows and stay far away from mobs/bosses.

I also didn't want Clerics to have to chase me down to heal me ( PS they dont and never did )

SOLUTION

Let's build a max lvl cleric that uses bows and call her Damiya.

Well ....

She wasn't great at healing

She wasn't great with bows

She was really just kind of average at everything.

11 years later she now sits as a 22nd lvl first life Archer and has been moved to the perma parked toon list.

What I discovered over the years of playing many MANY Archer cross classes is that when it really comes down to it, as far as ranged combat goes .... pure seems to be the way to go.

Don't get me wrong I still enjoy playing

Alexsys - 12/6/2 Moncher Build
Eliyze - 16/4 Bardcher Build
Cassiee - 12/6/2 Fighter Archer Build
Kaeylee - 20 Archer BUT was old school bowbarian ( loved that build )
Danicca - 20 Archer First Life but has all the Epic Archer gear
Maryssa - 15/5 Arti/Rogue repeater / maxed crafter build

However my mains Katnyss, Nattalie, Ryleagh are all pure archers and are simply better toons at being archers than my above noted builds.( I'm sure all thier past lives help ).

Sure there are a couple benefits to some of the first 6 toons I listed be it 10k stars / AC / Burst Damage / CC but nothing enough for me to say " I'm gonna bring Alex into Reaper instead of Katnyss !! "

I'm not saying cross class builds don't work, because for sure there are some incredible builds out there. I just don't think healing/arching go hand in hand.

Your build looks great and I may give it a shot for my cleric lives on Kat. I'm just pretty sure I'm going to re-discover the same issues I had with my cleric/Ranger 11 years ago.

Sorry the middle of my manyshot, you can pretty much guarantee I'm not coming to heal you if your health is low ..... stay alive for 20 seconds please.

Hehe

[Vish]

This is a wisdom based paralyzer build
So cleric goes hand in hand with it.
I do average damage with corrosive arrows on manyshot.
But built it as a paralyze cc secondary option.
Which it performs, but spell cc is more effective.

There have been moments reaping when the wizard gets killed and we lose cc.
At that point it is an immediate stopgap for a party wipe.
It performs as a healer great, not so as a paralyzer.
Of course, my expectation is one hit one kill, so having to target one mob for multiple shots means others are getting away. Works fine with low mob density, but like in slavers reaping I found it to be lacking.
I would encourage you to run it. It's a solid build. Lots a hit point, lots a heals, and can paralyze.

[96th_Malice]

I agree the build looks fun

For sure that's gonna be my 3 cleric lives. I just ETRd / HTRd Katnyss and am only lvl 3 presently so I will give it a try.

However I know that if you wanted to set up an Archer to Paralyze a monk is a fun way to go as it's also wis dependant. Even as a first life Alexsys can keep pretty much everything immobilized full time running EE at 30th lvl. I have not attempted Reaper with this toon yet

( and you don't have to stop pew pewing to heal )

Again I wasn't trying to " shoot down " your build, I just find healing/arching a difficult combo.

Have a great night

[Vish]

Lvl 30 reaper.
Ap
32 radiant. Core4,tier5. Aura.
22 arcane archer. Paralyzers.
13 stalwartd. +20% hit points.
8 deepwoods. +40 pos.
5 human. Healamp.

Took greater focus enchantment at 30.

Twists
1 Healing power
1 endless faith
1 cocoon
2 +3 enchant magister

The reaper version of vish.
Running 4s and under for dailys.
Needing the right group.
Seeing selection as being critical to success.
A healer.
A wizard.
A monk?*
or tempest
A warlock
And what's missing,
A tank

Usually another warlock,
They abound
Tentacles and holds are critical
Snafu otherwise
Because,
No tanks
Yet
Where they be?
It's gotta be more thankless than the healer

Having to hotbar masses again
I need another rotation of cures
I got maximize and intensify to crank them
Will do some testing

But the issue is
Melees go faster
And time is still of the essence
Sure, reaper 10 is being done
But how long did that take?

Yes, the games hard again
And new tactics are needed to overcome
The challenge
Don't fear the reaper

Some tricks
The ui of a healer.
I keep two bars vertical on my right side.
I keep the team list right next to it.
So there is shortest distance between clicking on a member and clicking a heal
So I normally rotate heal and cocoon.
Normally I can keep two targets alive
And I have aura
So I stand danger close to melee
But I'm semi tank with?*
2000 hp, 150prr, 100mrr.
Low AC. Can't fix that much til slavers set.
So I have easy ability to heal melees
But now more are coming
So I've set up an additional three, clw, cmw, csw
So I'll be cycling them and heals
Two groups
I might only need one cycled all the time
So that increases efficiency?*
Reducing the number of clicks
And my 2500 sp is purely for heals
So far I'm going full out?*
And not hitting empty
So that bodes well

It pays to know your group too
Who is squishy and who is tough
Who can handle themselves?*
And who needs an eye
This comes in static and guild
Pugs are rather free for all
And good luck getting a good mix
Again, lotta warlocks

so, as what is needed,
A call to tanks
A friend for the healer

[Vish]

Level 30
Running in dc

Str 24
Dex 40
Con 54
Int 21
Wis 74
Cha 38
Hp 1424
Hamp 166
Sp 2745
AC 70
Fort 70
Reflex 58
Will 81
Bab 21
Doubleshot 20
Rng att speed 22
Rng power 51
Fort 181
Prr 166
Mrr 90
# of turns 24
Positive sp 817
Spell crit pos 28
Spell mult pos 30
Light sp 239
Aura heals 231 on me

Running in dc
Purge the wicked,
Endless turning1, consecration, sacred ground, crusade
Empyrean magic, celestial champion
Heavenly presence, +5 wis
Bab 30
+108 to hit

Cc 34 gloves dex15, hamp61, insdevotion79, draconic soul gem
Epic halcyonia for magical efficiency and heal lore10
And it's the best looking helm in the game.

Paralyze
Base 20
Wis 32
Enchant 6+3+2
Enhance 2
Twist 3
Feat 2
Total 70

Notes
An update on vish
Sitting at 30 waiting for endgame
Made some gloves, found I didn't need the Pansophic, and the halcyonia was a better look.
Still at 9 reaper points.

[NytCrawlr]

*sigh*

I might just have to start working on my archer character again, she started out as something like this initially, and I enjoyed it even though it wasn't that impressive.

Great build, Vish, looking forward to it.

[Vish]

Update on vish

Domains are coming,
Will go trickery
But it will break my build
I'll have to go 14/4/2
For the mass charm
Too sweet to pass up for reaper
So I'm going to lose the toughness
+25 prr/mrr and about 300 hp at 30

Well, I'm cc and glow
So I don't really need it
Although paralyzers draw aggro
But its uber cc, so I'll live

Hoping they hand out LR 1 or 3
Likely just an LR,
And I'll have to tr

I've still got to fill Ed's too
Needed sheath for raid,
But not filled in
Whoops
Gonna run some dailys and fix it
I don't run vish much
Not much endgame ATM
But I do see shroud and new raid up,
Once in while
Will be better for ravenloft
By time domain drop and expansion,
I should get vish tr
And then I'll have to reconsider again
When the new meta comes out
Still looking forward to warpriest changes
That will be crucial...

#clericlivesmatter

[Marshal_Lannes]

Just about finishing up my Radiant/Evo Cleric life and am going to try this for my second Cleric. You are taking Maximize for your burst? What are you taking Extend for? Do you feel the 13 Cleric and 5th level spells is worth it over 6 Ranger which gives manyshot and sniper shot (going 11 pts in DWS)? I like your in depth updates, great job.

[Vish]

Maximize and intensify are for bursts
But I hardly ever burst
With about 24 turns, endless turning,
You can keep aura up full time off one charge
Kinda oh **** button for reaper

I've been considering new split for domains
Maybe 14/6 ranger,
Since really you don't need maximize, nor intensify
That would Free up one slot heroics
I generally take extend on my clerics
I like one long timer rather than recast
And on a 13 split it makes buffs 26,
Enough for a quest
So maximize no, extend yes

It's an awesome cc build, with heals
Very manageable in play

I would say go 6 ranger,
That allows tier5 in heroics leveling

[Vish]

Vish the ranger
14/6 cleric ranger
Silver flame
Trickery domain
Lawful good human

Str 8
Dex 16
Con 14
Int 12
Wis 18 +7
Cha 8
+6 tomes

Umd, heal, jump

1 cleric empower heal
Human PBS
2 ranger (undead)
3 ranger (rapid shot, twf) zen archery
4 ranger (diehard)
5 ranger (precise shot)
6 ranger (elementals) extend
7 ranger (manyshot, itwf)
8-9 cleric ic ranged
10-12 cleric quicken
13-15 cleric imp precise shot
16-18 cleric sf enchant
19-20 cleric

21 oc
24 greater sf enchant
26 sp pos
27 blinding speed
28 doubleshot
29 fount of life
30 Celestia
Open

This is the revamp for domains
Left out maximize and intensify
One slot open at 30

The ap spread will be different
No stalwart d frees up 13 ap
Prob 2 ap into paralyzers,
3 ap into human
Leaves 8 ap for deepwood?

Also, leveling will be easier with access to tier5
Either that, or get aura sooner than 20
A little bit more wiggle room with this build
Squishier, but still as potent
Since this is not a dps build, but paralyzer

[Marshal_Lannes]

Note - My experiences with this build are only for Heroic Reaper questing. I built with no intention of running epics. I went with Drow because this character always more less is a Drow. I don't think race really matters.

STR 8
DEX 15
CON 14
INT 12
WIS 17
CHA 12

I have played through level 10 so far. Progression has been
1 Cleric
2-5 Ranger
6 Cleric
7-8 Ranger
9 Fighter
10 Cleric

Feats are:
1 Empower Healing (for a empower CLW spell)
3 PBS
6 Zen Archery (really needed for hit chance to get rid of glancing blows)
9 IC Ranged and Extend (extend is actually quite good as it gets your Ranger spells and Nightshield over 10 mins)

Through 10 I have 22 APs into AA (for Para Arrows), 11 AP in DWS (for Sniper Shot) and 1 AP into RS. As you see I am basically a Ranger. I can Para everything but rarely do so. DPS with imbues is very high. Can solo Reaper quests. In groups you can top tier DPS or Para everything if you have more melees to give them something to do and make it very easy. 6 Ranger is key because it gives you not only Manyshot but also a 2nd spell which is fairly important since Rangers have very good L1 spells. Current spell load out is:

Cleric - CLW, Nightshield, Remove Fear, Summon Monsters (good for agro mitigation at times)
Ranger - Jump, Ram's Might
For L2 Cleric spells at 10 I added CMW, Resist Energy (people always die and need this in Reaper) and Lesser Restoration (could use wands and slot in Bull's Strength if you don't want to slot a STR item and need it for carry capacity)

So would I not be doing just as much or more DPS as a pure Ranger? I don't know, maybe? But from play I can tell you the empowered CLW is vital in Reaper play as is the Nightshield. A ranger can wand both of course. Jump too comes into play, much nicer to have Jump (both in points from Ranger then the actual spell) which really helps when you're a ranged build. My gut feeling is that I have a lot more utility with this build than a pure Ranger in terms of helping an overall Reaper group. I'm done with Ranger levels now so I'll see how/if the Cleric begins to shine through.

Bows - Nicked Longbow at L2 untll Silver Longbow at L8. Petrifying Longbow at L12 looks good if I'm going to be in Para mode (Para and Petrify, but maybe that's overkill?). L14 either Bow of Sinew or Unwavering Ardency (if you have it I don't). I highly recommend Sniper Shot from DWS, it is a huge increase to DPS. There is also a lot of positive spell power in the DWS tree.

[Vish]

Ya, sounds good
Too bad domains not yet
But I will relevel vish when they come out

Ya going higher into cleric will bring u spells
But don't expect much out of trees
It's a radiant build
But don't have a good ap spread till 20
You can sacrifice your archer to go cleric
But aura will be weak without levels

So I advise going tier5 archer
I'm interested in results
The dps as archer for vish at cap is actually decent
I run in dc and get good adds out of the epic moment
So it's good back up on the red names
But other than that it's aura and paralyze

Thinking about mass charm
Will likely need to add heighten at 24
And push back greater enchant to 30
Seeing how charms work in reaper
It will be a feather in the hat for a cleric
Should have good DCs for it

Thanks for the feedback awesomesauce