Turbine and people who feel they're being wrongfully warned/banned

[WickedRogue]

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[slarden]

So you don't get what you did wrong?

[01000010]

I know where youre coming from, i got banned once for telling someone to F off that was harrassing me and my 2 kids(both preteen).

Oh, and ibtl, lol.

[WickedRogue]

Honestly No I don't know what I did wrong cuz we have reported this guy for the past 10 months and nothing has changed. I'm sorry to hear that. what does "ibtl" mean? lol.

Look I'm a nice guy and I can get along with just about anyone but don't harass my wife. If she says leave her lone she's married and wants nothing to do with you. Then leave her alone.

And I am sorry if my post is a little blunt but we are sick of this guy harassing her and reporting me for taking up for her. So please explain to me what I did wrong.

Thank you

[Enderoc]

I agree, someone who is stalking/harassing my wife with recorded complaints I myself sent...needs more than verbally insulted if you know what I mean. I am highly disappointed if it was the victim and not the brat that was banned.

[AbyssalMage]

Honestly No I don't know what I did wrong cuz we have reported this guy for the past 10 months and nothing has changed. I'm sorry to hear that. what does "ibtl" mean? lol.

Look I'm a nice guy and I can get along with just about anyone but don't harass my wife. If she says leave her lone she's married and wants nothing to do with you. Then leave her alone.

And I am sorry if my post is a little blunt but we are sick of this guy harassing her and reporting me for taking up for her. So please explain to me what I did wrong.

Thank you

Take the "High Road" maybe, act like an adult and call customer service to see where your complaint is in the que, ignore the disgusting behavior and play DDO? There are infinite options, you chose to take one that would cause an account violation.

My suggestion would be contact a lawyer (the first 30 minutes are usually free or at an extremely reduced rate), my guess is you would have a case against Turbine/WB if what you say is truly accurate and as bad as you say.

[WickedRogue]

I agree, someone who is stalking/harassing my wife with recorded complaints I myself sent...needs more than verbally insulted if you know what I mean. I am highly disappointed if it was the victim and not the brat that was banned.

Tell me about it. and if this guy lived in the same state as us..... ooooooh boy. The way I see it is you can mess what who ever you want. Talk bad about me or what ever. But if you mess with my wife and kids you're just asking for a beating.

[slarden]

Honestly No I don't know what I did wrong cuz we have reported this guy for the past 10 months and nothing has changed. I'm sorry to hear that. what does "ibtl" mean? lol.

Look I'm a nice guy and I can get along with just about anyone but don't harass my wife. If she says leave her lone she's married and wants nothing to do with you. Then leave her alone.

And I am sorry if my post is a little blunt but we are sick of this guy harassing her and reporting me for taking up for her. So please explain to me what I did wrong.

Thank you

It's no fun dealing with jerks and although I've had very little problem I understand the frustration, but I don't believe anyone is going to be that persistent in harassment if they are getting ignored. So they go through all the trouble to make a new account or character and it takes <1 min to report and squelch. I don't believe for one minute that someone will go that long if there is no responses back and all that wasted time on their part.

Still, they don't get into person vs. person squabbles when evaluating things. They look at what you and you alone did which was wrong. The punishment by Turbine was right. If you don't respond back and report the person the pattern will eventually stop. If you respond back in a bad way like you did, it only encourages a person trolling you and prolongs whatever dispute is going on.

If standard reporting isn't working you always have the option of asking Cordovan for advice and possibly escalation. Coming on the forums like this only makes you look like you have a short fuse.

[WickedRogue]

Take the "High Road" maybe, act like an adult and call customer service to see where your complaint is in the que, ignore the disgusting behavior and play DDO? There are infinite options, you chose to take one that would cause an account violation.

My suggestion would be contact a lawyer (the first 30 minutes are usually free or at an extremely reduced rate), my guess is you would have a case against Turbine/WB if what you say is truly accurate and as bad as you say.

You know I never thought about a lawyer. Maybe I will do just that. If it means that my family can play the game w/o being harassed by people then it would be worth it. But yeah it's pretty accurate. This has been going on for about 10 months and still nothing has changed he has even tried to contact her on facebook.... Maybe getting a lawyer would be the best thing at this point.

Thank you for your advice.

[Baktiotha]

This thread is going to be locked soon and OP is looking at a forum ban as well. You cannot come to the forums and post about bans. Most especially you cannot post actual conversations that include the names of people involved.

Highly recommend to you that A) you delete your original post and B) that you move on with your life.

I'll give you a couple of other options regarding DDO.

First, make a new account. It isn't that difficult. I have access to 8 of them (and none are banned from the game).

Second, learn to control your language. Words that you might use in your everyday life are not always acceptable in game or in the forums.

Third, change servers.

Fourth, if the harassment continues and the offending player is being banned but remaking accounts and still harassing you or your wife ask Turbine for a free name change token and rename your characters.

As you discovered, the only one who is at risk from the course you chose is you. You let the other guy win because you could not control your own behavior.

Regardless of whether you think that is right or wrong, it is how things work in most of the real world.

[Baktiotha]

This has been going on for about 10 months and still nothing has changed he has even tried to contact her on facebook....

Why would you ever give your real identity to someone you meet in game? That is just asking for problems.

Never use your real name. Never use an alias name that links to any social media you are on (don't be WickedRogue on Snapchat and Facebook and Twitter and whatever). Whoever you are on the forums and in game, make sure it is somebody that has no connection to the real you.

What you are describing is a classic example of what *not* to do on the internet.

[WickedRogue]

It's no fun dealing with jerks and although I've had very little problem I understand the frustration, but I don't believe anyone is going to be that persistent in harassment if they are getting ignored. So they go through all the trouble to make a new account or character and it takes <1 min to report and squelch. I don't believe for one minute that someone will go that long if there is no responses back and all that wasted time on their part.

Still, they don't get into person vs. person squabbles when evaluating things. They look at what you and you alone did which was wrong. The punishment by Turbine was right. If you don't respond back and report the person the pattern will eventually stop. If you respond back in a bad way like you did, it only encourages a person trolling you and prolongs whatever dispute is going on.

If standard reporting isn't working you always have the option of asking Cordovan for advice and possibly escalation. Coming on the forums like this only makes you look like you have a short fuse.

You know You're right I do have a short fuse but it is hard to light that fuse. That's how it started the guy starts harassing her I ask him to stop he tells me he can take better care of her. HE'S 16. What can a 16 year old child offer a 32 year old HAPPLY married woman? Nothing. Anyways that beside the point. Yah I agree I could have been a little less blunt to him but we even stoped playing for about a month just to make the guy think we stoped playing the game. And as soon as we come back he starts again?. So yes some people are that persistent and a lot of people don't know how to take NO for an answer "such as this guy" And when Turbine does nothing about a problem on their game. It becomes a big problem and we're sick of it. I just might do has suggested in the post above and talk to a lawyer about it.

[Nonesuch2008]

Honestly No I don't know what I did wrong cuz we have reported this guy for the past 10 months and nothing has changed. I'm sorry to hear that. what does "ibtl" mean? lol.

IBTL is shorthand for In Before The Lock, which is where this thread is headed. Publicly discussing enforcement matters like this breaks the CoC, so all of this will likely be cubed.

I believe & understand your level of frustration with the person harassing you, as they are likely either immature, not playing with a full deck, or both. You let them drag you down to their level though, and that is what did you in. I hope they get what's coming to them.

[Coyopa]

IBTL means In Before The Lock. This thread is probably going to result in more bad things happening to you. If you can delete this thread, I recommend it.

[Baktiotha]

Three more things. IBTL means "in before the lock." Second, it sounds chivalrous and manly to stick up for your wife but it really isn't achieving anything when you're dealing with an anonymous person who could be located anywhere in the world.

Last thing, your wife probably doesn't need you sticking up for her. She can probably handle the harassment all on her own if she wants to. If she complains to you about it, show her the tools and how to report it and leave it to her.

[Enoach]

This is a valuable lesson.

If you find yourself arguing with a child, you have already lost.

While I understand where you are coming from as I to would stand in the gap when it comes to my wife and kids. You have to understand that this person is after your reactions (Your Wife's and Yours) You are giving them exactly what they want. Believe me if he was sitting across the table they wouldn't dare do what they are doing.

[slarden]

You know You're right I do have a short fuse but it is hard to light that fuse. That's how it started the guy starts harassing her I ask him to stop he tells me he can take better care of her. HE'S 16. What can a 16 year old child offer a 32 year old HAPPLY married woman? Nothing. Anyways that beside the point. Yah I agree I could have been a little less blunt to him but we even stoped playing for about a month just to make the guy think we stoped playing the game. And as soon as we come back he starts again?. So yes some people are that persistent and a lot of people don't know how to take NO for an answer "such as this guy" And when Turbine does nothing about a problem on their game. It becomes a big problem and we're sick of it. I just might do has suggested in the post above and talk to a lawyer about it.

Typical of trolls,if you leave the game he assumes he caused it and likes that. Only answer as much as it's frustrating it total and complete ignoring of trolls. You can also go anonymous and maybe he doesn't check to send a tell to you.

Turbine does have an answer, report and squelch. Cordovan is available to escalate an issue like this.

If I was in your shoes I would apologize to Cordovan for this thread and ask him to close it, let him know you didn't realize he might be able to help and ask him for help without criticizing the other people answering your tickets. Turbine isn't going to always be able to detect harassment problems, but if you escalate I suspect they will try to help. But none of it will do any good unless you never ever respond to the troll again. He will feel he lost if he spends months and gets no reaction from you. Even if Turbine does nothing you can get rid of the guy yourself by squelching and ignoring.

I've been there and responded to trolls and managed to get only one forum infraction for it, but probably deserved 2 or 3. I've been better lately at not taking bait.

[WickedRogue]

Why would you ever give your real identity to someone you meet in game? That is just asking for problems.

Never use your real name. Never use an alias name that links to any social media you are on (don't be WickedRogue on Snapchat and Facebook and Twitter and whatever). Whoever you are on the forums and in game, make sure it is somebody that has no connection to the real you.

What you are describing is a classic example of what *not* to do on the internet.

Wait what are you talking about this dude doesn't even know my real name. I donno about her... As for my first post... Yeah I didn't relize that it had my real name in it lol so yeah that's my bad. As for the Wicked Rogue part. My nickname is Rogue irl. Either way that that's off topic. This guy doesn't know us from a hole in the ground. I don't care what he's trying to do. I don't even care that he's a 16 year old kid. What I care about is the fact that every single time we log on he's on a new toon with a new name and harassing her again. So what does she do? Block him, and report him. Then he starts with me so I do the same and what does he do? Make a new toon and starts it all over again. Honestly I belive this is just some dude that has no life and nothing better to do than tick people off. I've spoken to alot of people on the server I play on that knows this dude and THEY don't even like this guy. They have even had the same problems with him. Yet still nothing has been done he's still here and still harassing people. Honestly I been thinking about making a female character just for him to harass like he does my wife to show everyone "inclueding Turbine" that this guy is nothing but problems and doesn't care about anything or anyone. I agree that people should not use their real names on things such as this. But when a person keeps on being a jerk it gets old, fast and something NEEDS to be done about him. I know ALOT of people in game from questing and being in guilds and I don't have this problem with anyone just this one person. I personally have logged on my wife's account to level her up while she was at work and GUESS WHAT? As soon as I logged in he messages me thinking it's her then when I tell him to leave her along "YET AGAIN" he goes and reports me again. So you tell me. You tell if people can't be that persistent.

[Marshal_Lannes]

Tell me about it. and if this guy lived in the same state as us..... ooooooh boy. The way I see it is you can mess what who ever you want. Talk bad about me or what ever. But if you mess with my wife and kids you're just asking for a beating.

If he lived down the street you would do what? Go drag him out of his house and beat him up? An adult assaulting a minor? Guess who would be in trouble for that? What would your court room defense be, he tried talking to my wife on a computer game? Then you'd be looking at time in prison instead of a temporary game ban. Posting here also isn't going to help your cause. As someone in your 30s you should be taking the high road instead of getting mad at a minor. You can be firm and clear with people without resorting to offensive language or threats.

[WickedRogue]

Typical of trolls,if you leave the game he assumes he caused it and likes that. Only answer as much as it's frustrating it total and complete ignoring of trolls. You can also go anonymous and maybe he doesn't check to send a tell to you.

Turbine does have an answer, report and squelch. Cordovan is available to escalate an issue like this.

If I was in your shoes I would apologize to Cordovan for this thread and ask him to close it, let him know you didn't realize he might be able to help and ask him for help without criticizing the other people answering your tickets. Turbine isn't going to always be able to detect harassment problems, but if you escalate I suspect they will try to help. But none of it will do any good unless you never ever respond to the troll again. He will feel he lost if he spends months and gets no reaction from you. Even if Turbine does nothing you can get rid of the guy yourself by squelching and ignoring.

I've been there and responded to trolls and managed to get only one forum infraction for it, but probably deserved 2 or 3. I've been better lately at not taking bait.

I'm sorry. As I said before we have only been playing the game for 10 months. So we're still learning alot about DDO. Who is Cordovan so that I may do this. What is squelching? As for ignoring when he makes a new toon or changes his name we block him again when you relize it's him. So to all the people that I offended with this thread I'm sorry. I was not meaning to offend anyone.