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    Default Need build Advice. Pure Fighter vs Pure Paladin

    I was hoping you guys could give me some feedback on a couple builds I put together based off reading the forums for the past few days. I am a returning player and would like to pick one of these for my next life. The ultimate goal is to solo EE (ofc). I am interested in high survivability with good enough DPS so I guess the question is, since I am interested in trying out the revamped fighter, will my kensei build have good enough survivability to solo EE or is the paladin build more suited for it. Or are they both bad?

    Pure Fighter

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    Level 30 True Neutral Human Male
    (20 Fighter \ 10 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 500
    Spell Points: 100 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 17
    Reflex: 11
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 30)
    Strength             16                    31
    Dexterity            14                    20
    Constitution         15                    21
    Intelligence         12                    18
    Wisdom                8                    14
    Charisma             15                    23
    
    Tomes Used
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 1 \par 
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 30)
    Balance               2                    29
    Bluff                 0                    19
    Concentration         0                    18
    Diplomacy             0                    19
    Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
    Haggle                0                    19
    Heal                  2                    26
    Hide                  0                    18
    Intimidate            0                    42
    Jump                  2                    28
    Listen                0                    15
    Move Silently         0                    18
    Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a                  n/a
    Repair                0                    17
    Search                0                    17
    Spellcraft            0                    17
    Spot                  0                    23
    Swim                  0                    23
    Tumble                1                    19
    Use Magic Device      2                    30
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Warlock
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Selected) Precision
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Single Weapon Fighting
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Single Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Single Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Selected) Heavy Armor Master
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Heavy Armor Champion
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Level 16 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Tacticle Supremacy
    Level 18 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Selected) Tacticle Master
    Level 20 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Heavy Armor Combatant
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    Level 29 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Dire Charge
    Level 30 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction
    Feat: (Legendary) Scion of the Plane of Earth
    
    Enhancements:
    Human - 19AP
    Kensei - 48AP
    Harper Agent - 13AP
    
    Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Saves Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Don't Count Me Out (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Don't Count Me Out (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Human - Don't Count Me Out (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Greater Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Spiritual Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike With No Thought (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Power Surge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - One Cut (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Alacrity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Exotic Weapon Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Mastery (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Mastery (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Opportunity Attack (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Liquid Courage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike at the Heart (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - A Good Death (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Weapon Master (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - One With The Blade (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Deadly Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Keen Edge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Agent of Good (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Harper Enchantment (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Traveler's Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Traveler's Toughness (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Magical Endurance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Magical Endurance (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Magical Endurance (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Highly Skilled (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Highly Skilled (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Highly Skilled (Rank 3)
    Pure Paladin

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    Vanguard Paladin
    Level 30 Lawful Good Human Male
    (20 Paladin \ 10 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 500
    Spell Points: 117 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 26
    Reflex: 15
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 30)
    Strength             16                    27
    Dexterity            14                    18
    Constitution         16                    20
    Intelligence         10                    14
    Wisdom                8                    12
    Charisma             15                    19
    
    Tomes Used
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 1 \par 
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 30)
    Balance               0                    14
    Bluff                 0                    14
    Concentration         0                    34
    Diplomacy             0                    14
    Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
    Haggle                0                    14
    Heal                  4                    34
    Hide                  0                    14
    Intimidate            4                    37
    Jump                  0                    18
    Listen                0                    11
    Move Silently         0                    14
    Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a                  n/a
    Repair                0                    12
    Search                0                    12
    Spellcraft            0                    12
    Spot                  0                    11
    Swim                  0                    18
    Tumble                n/a                  15
    Use Magic Device      2                    25
    
    Level 1 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Improved Shield Bash
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Warlock
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
    Level 6 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Level 9 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery
    Level 12 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Level 15 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Level 18 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Bulwark of Defense
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Elusive Target
    Level 29 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Dire Charge
    Level 30 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Divine Sphere: Deific Warding
    Feat: (Legendary) Scion of Arborea
    
    Enhancements:
    Human - 3AP
    KotC - 22AP
    Sacred Defender - 14AP
    Vanguard - 41AP
    
    
    Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Slayer of Evil I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Slayer of Evil II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Empowered Smite (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Saves Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Saves Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - To the Fore! (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Combat (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Vicious Shield (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Combat II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Vicious Shield II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Champion (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Specialization I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Smash (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Smash (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Smash (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Specialization II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Stunning Shield (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Stunning Shield (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Stunning Shield (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Missile Shield (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Missile Shield (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Missile Shield (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee Power (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee Power (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee Power (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Specialization III (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Follow Up (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Follow Up (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Follow Up (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Fatal Bulwark (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Reposte (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Reposte (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Reposte (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield to the Face (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Disorienting Smash (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Disorienting Smash (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Rush (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Rush (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Rush (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Armored Strength (Rank 1)

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    It is easier to solo on a paladin, no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xadriel537 View Post
    I was hoping you guys could give me some feedback on a couple builds I put together based off reading the forums for the past few days. I am a returning player and would like to pick one of these for my next life. The ultimate goal is to solo EE (ofc). I am interested in high survivability with good enough DPS so I guess the question is, since I am interested in trying out the revamped fighter, will my kensei build have good enough survivability to solo EE or is the paladin build more suited for it. Or are they both bad?

    Pure Fighter

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    Level 30 True Neutral Human Male
    (20 Fighter \ 10 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 500
    Spell Points: 100 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 17
    Reflex: 11
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 30)
    Strength             16                    31
    Dexterity            14                    20
    Constitution         15                    21
    Intelligence         12                    18
    Wisdom                8                    14
    Charisma             15                    23
    
    Tomes Used
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 1 \par 
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 30)
    Balance               2                    29
    Bluff                 0                    19
    Concentration         0                    18
    Diplomacy             0                    19
    Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
    Haggle                0                    19
    Heal                  2                    26
    Hide                  0                    18
    Intimidate            0                    42
    Jump                  2                    28
    Listen                0                    15
    Move Silently         0                    18
    Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a                  n/a
    Repair                0                    17
    Search                0                    17
    Spellcraft            0                    17
    Spot                  0                    23
    Swim                  0                    23
    Tumble                1                    19
    Use Magic Device      2                    30
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Warlock
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Selected) Precision
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Single Weapon Fighting
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Single Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Single Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Selected) Heavy Armor Master
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Heavy Armor Champion
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Level 16 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Tacticle Supremacy
    Level 18 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Selected) Tacticle Master
    Level 20 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Heavy Armor Combatant
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    Level 29 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Dire Charge
    Level 30 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction
    Feat: (Legendary) Scion of the Plane of Earth
    
    Enhancements:
    Human - 19AP
    Kensei - 48AP
    Harper Agent - 13AP
    
    Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Saves Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Don't Count Me Out (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Don't Count Me Out (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Human - Don't Count Me Out (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Greater Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Spiritual Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike With No Thought (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Power Surge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - One Cut (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Alacrity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Exotic Weapon Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Mastery (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Mastery (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Opportunity Attack (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Liquid Courage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike at the Heart (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - A Good Death (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Weapon Master (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - One With The Blade (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Deadly Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Keen Edge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Agent of Good (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Harper Enchantment (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Traveler's Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Traveler's Toughness (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Magical Endurance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Magical Endurance (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Magical Endurance (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Highly Skilled (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Highly Skilled (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Highly Skilled (Rank 3)
    Pure Paladin

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    Vanguard Paladin
    Level 30 Lawful Good Human Male
    (20 Paladin \ 10 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 500
    Spell Points: 117 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 26
    Reflex: 15
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 30)
    Strength             16                    27
    Dexterity            14                    18
    Constitution         16                    20
    Intelligence         10                    14
    Wisdom                8                    12
    Charisma             15                    19
    
    Tomes Used
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 1 \par 
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 30)
    Balance               0                    14
    Bluff                 0                    14
    Concentration         0                    34
    Diplomacy             0                    14
    Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
    Haggle                0                    14
    Heal                  4                    34
    Hide                  0                    14
    Intimidate            4                    37
    Jump                  0                    18
    Listen                0                    11
    Move Silently         0                    14
    Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a                  n/a
    Repair                0                    12
    Search                0                    12
    Spellcraft            0                    12
    Spot                  0                    11
    Swim                  0                    18
    Tumble                n/a                  15
    Use Magic Device      2                    25
    
    Level 1 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Improved Shield Bash
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Warlock
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
    Level 6 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Level 9 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery
    Level 12 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Level 15 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Level 18 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Bulwark of Defense
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Elusive Target
    Level 29 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Dire Charge
    Level 30 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Divine Sphere: Deific Warding
    Feat: (Legendary) Scion of Arborea
    
    Enhancements:
    Human - 3AP
    KotC - 22AP
    Sacred Defender - 14AP
    Vanguard - 41AP
    
    
    Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Slayer of Evil I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Slayer of Evil II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Empowered Smite (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Saves Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Saves Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - To the Fore! (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Combat (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Vicious Shield (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Combat II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Vicious Shield II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Champion (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Specialization I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Smash (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Smash (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Smash (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Specialization II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Stunning Shield (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Stunning Shield (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Stunning Shield (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Missile Shield (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Missile Shield (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Missile Shield (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee Power (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee Power (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee Power (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Specialization III (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Follow Up (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Follow Up (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Follow Up (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Fatal Bulwark (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Reposte (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Reposte (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Reposte (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield to the Face (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Disorienting Smash (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Disorienting Smash (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Rush (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Rush (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Shield Rush (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Pal) - Armored Strength (Rank 1)
    Fighter will win the DPS contest VS Paladin....but Survivabilty will be much tougher.
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    If we're talking KotC vs Kensei, I think the Kensei wins at DPS: higher doublestrike, a lot more Melee Power, One Cut, potentially higher DCs from tactics feats, etc. KotC gains a few perks, like Div Might and Avenging / Exalted Cleaves, but ftr should finally be able to pull ahead (esp. if you have Harper to make up for no DM).

    If we're talking ftr vs pally Vanguard, it gets trickier, because if you've picked up VG capstone, that limits how many APs you have to spend elsewhere. In particular, you lose the Kensei enhancements which help give it an edge over KotC. OTOH, a "S&B Kensei" might out-DPS a similar pally build or majority-VG ftr build.

    That said, a pure pally is definitely going to have better survivability from high saves and self-healing (LoHs + CSW); a pure ftr has to rely on pots and ED healing abilities like Rejuv Cocoon & Sacred Ground. Even a pure barb has more self-healing than a pure ftr, which is just...surreal.

    So these days I would say go with ftr if you plan to focus on DPS & tactics, pally if you focus on survivability / tanking.
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