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    Default Dark delerium is too trolly in tavern brawl

    Its bad enough theres no save. Its worse the cooldowns the same as the duration. Getting trolled for half an hour by a level six at lv 30 is embarrassing. I had to log off and wait for him to leave. Cmon, its worse than fascinatejust make it one of those "not available in tavern brawl" things. or monsters that immune to fear/paralyse are immune to its effects. that could work.
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    Ha ha.

    Maybe Harper's pin gets you out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulkoorex View Post
    Ha ha.

    Maybe Harper's pin gets you out?
    and then have ~15 secs to get out or its back to being delirious for 10 mins
    IF it works
    and if they 20 they get otto's irrisistable again

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    Does it pass through Spell Resistance? That reminds me of Siren's Song

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hipparan View Post
    Does it pass through Spell Resistance? That reminds me of Siren's Song
    yep, but siren's has charges, this is infinite
    also lasts 12 secs w/ 40 sec cooldown
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    Cooldowns isnt one of the Devs strengths. CD should be always > Duration. Even if only by a small margin.

    Probably an artifact of the debug phase.

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    So if you can get out with Harper's Pin,use tactic to keep warlock on its ass. Trip, Stunning Blow, Stunning shield, etc.

    Pretty sure a warlock will have crappy balance skill. Throw in grease or web. Or summon a pet to interrupt the warlock.
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    Nothing that is designed for PvE should ever be changed because of PvP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragavon View Post
    Nothing that is designed for PvE should ever be changed because of PvP.
    The ability itself won't need to be changed, there's plenty of spells & abilities that are simply flagged as "not usable in pvp areas"
    I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was, now what's it is weird and scary to me.

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    I simply do not want any developer time whatsoever wasted on anything related to PvP in DDO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulkoorex View Post
    So if you can get out with Harper's Pin,use tactic to keep warlock on its ass. Trip, Stunning Blow, Stunning shield, etc.

    Pretty sure a warlock will have crappy balance skill. Throw in grease or web. Or summon a pet to interrupt the warlock.
    I cant get thru his displacement really anyways. only maybe can knock him down if arcane encumberance works with eldritch blasts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragavon View Post
    I simply do not want any developer time whatsoever wasted on anything related to PvP in DDO
    Pvp is very rarely used for pvp, it is actually used for testing about 80% of the time. And getting interrupted by a level six is very annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jreinoehl2 View Post
    Pvp is very rarely used for pvp, it is actually used for testing about 80% of the time. And getting interrupted by a level six is very annoying.
    Do it somewhere where the level six aint would be my solution, since its not sometging that dev time should be spent on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bartharok View Post
    Do it somewhere where the level six aint would be my solution, since its not sometging that dev time should be spent on.
    its not a hard fix. just add the "unavailable in tavern brawl". And finding an obscure brawling area, marking both me AND the helper with the testing as anonymous, and hope he doesn't realize that the who list is alphabetical(because an "anonymous" will show up between te and ts) and NOT getting accepted into parties etc because I forgot to unmark- the troll is winning 5-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by jreinoehl2 View Post
    its not a hard fix. just add the "unavailable in tavern brawl". And finding an obscure brawling area, marking both me AND the helper with the testing as anonymous, and hope he doesn't realize that the who list is alphabetical(because an "anonymous" will show up between te and ts) and NOT getting accepted into parties etc because I forgot to unmark- the troll is winning 5-1
    If he is actively seeking you out to troll you, the answer is to report him. If he isnt, just gping into an out of the way brawling are is good enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bartharok View Post
    If he is actively seeking you out to troll you, the answer is to report him. If he isnt, just gping into an out of the way brawling are is good enough.
    Report him for what?
    And I'm not vip, so I'm not sure about customer support...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jreinoehl2 View Post
    Report him for what?
    And I'm not vip, so I'm not sure about customer support...
    griefing or harassment - and i guess u dont have to be vip to report someone
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    How about a spell Absorption item like Jeweled Cloak? Does a no save means the Absorption effect doesn´t work?
    "It´s too late. Always has been - always will be. Too late"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jreinoehl2 View Post
    Its bad enough theres no save. Its worse the cooldowns the same as the duration. Getting trolled for half an hour by a level six at lv 30 is embarrassing. I had to log off and wait for him to leave. Cmon, its worse than fascinatejust make it one of those "not available in tavern brawl" things. or monsters that immune to fear/paralyse are immune to its effects. that could work.
    It has been a while since I did the whole PvP thing. But if that person is merely spam casting and watching you be helpless, you can report them for harassment.

    Quote Originally Posted by jreinoehl2 View Post
    I cant get thru his displacement really anyways. only maybe can knock him down if arcane encumberance works with eldritch blasts
    A level 30 has no way to bypass displacement?
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    I think it should remain totally as-is.
    This is part of the beauty of PvP, in my opinion.
    Exit, pursued by a bear. ~ William Shakespeare (stage direction from The Winter's Tale)

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