How to revitalize Reaver's Refugee

[TheWalruss]

Hey guys

Not a lot of players are aware of how amazing the Reaver's Refuge pack actually is.

To make a larger player base have an interest in the game, here's a suggestion that might do that.

1) Advertise.
2) This:

5k would be fair considering difficulty, and:
3) If experienced ppl would find a reason to go there again, they would bring more new people, who would then find out that:
4) Some of the armor there is still best in slot for some classes.
5) Make a follow up where we actually get to see the refugee...

Just an idea. Doesn't cost much time and energy. Might earn you some money and us some satisfaction.

Cheers.

/Wal

NB. Enter the Kobold and Monestary of the Scorpion are both some of the highest yielding xp quests in the game. The reference in the dialogue is to Stealer of Souls. The last quest in the chain which is ridiculously difficult to get a group for because you need to run around in different wildernesses like a monkey. Yet another reason to make the rune hand in a semi-saga reward.

[PsychoBlonde]

I had to read your post through 3 times to figure out what the heck you were talking about.

No, none of the armors are "best in slot" for any class. They're barely semi-decent at level 16. The armor value across the board is lower and the max dex bonuses are far worse than GH dragonscale armors that don't require a hugely tedious random lottery grind to get. The reason why people don't run Stealer of Souls is because you have to re-flag EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. you run it.

The quests get run for xp and that's it.

If they want to revitalize it, they need to:

1. Re-do all the runes to make them effective for the level they're at.
2. Change all the values on the base armor to make it not total **** compared to what you can get elsewhere. Preferably add an augment slot or two.
3. Remove the re-flagging for Stealer of Souls.
4. Hopefully make it a little easier to get in and out of the place as a side benefit.
5. Fix the stupid graphical bug in Monastery of the Scorpion that makes everything invisible if your camera angles through the crud on the walls.
6. Fix the erroneous DM voiceover/text connection in Kobold and Monastery of the Scorpion.
7. Probably add an epic version of some kind.

It might get done at some point, but from the little we know of the dev schedule it's not in the cards for this year.

[unbongwah]

Reaver's Refuge suffers from the same problem as a lot of other older adventure packs: namely when it was considered endgame content, DT armor was great and worth the effort of farming (or at least there was nothing better to do in endgame at the time); but it was rendered obsolete ages ago, so the only reason to run it now is if you need the Favor. [There are easier XP-farming options, IMO, and almost nobody level-saves at 19.] The best way to revitalize it: upgrade the heroic gear to be worth the effort (or reduce the effort required to obtain it); and epic-ify the quests so it's competitive with current endgame.

[thunir]

If you just made the runes general augments.

[Enerdhil]

I could say we need lag fixes, not old content upgrade. I could say we need bug fixes. I could say we need 10 other things, not content "revitalization". But if we speak about content revitalization itself...

Reavers refugee, really? The best xp/min at lvl, one of the most popular packs at level, the lowest cost in game if we speak about turbine points. If you cannot find group the problem is not in pack, but in low population. Almost everyone i know got access to this pack and no acces to other packs at level. With vale it's first to buy pack at level. There's no reason to revitalize it, maybe sos flag could use closer look since almost nobody is even trying to flag cause of long gem farming (long when we compare it to asap xp/min mentality).

Compare it to restless isles - no xp, long quests, crazy and long ways to quest givers, crazy ways to quests, raid almost no accessible without gt (without high umd, what can be problematic at level, probably you'll never find entrance), in slavers easy to fail objective, especially with someone stupid in party. Almost noone run this pack at level. And there's a lot of far less popular packs than reavers refugee. I can understand you like this pack and it's the only reason why you want to see it revitalized, but in my opinion ifwe speak about packs revitalization RR is far, far away in queue.

Ps: why you post screenshot with your own tell instead of just writing it?

[Renvar]

Reaver's Refuge suffers from the same problem as a lot of other older adventure packs: namely when it was considered endgame content, DT armor was great and worth the effort of farming (or at least there was nothing better to do in endgame at the time); but it was rendered obsolete ages ago, so the only reason to run it now is if you need the Favor. [There are easier XP-farming options, IMO, and almost nobody level-saves at 19.] The best way to revitalize it: upgrade the heroic gear to be worth the effort (or reduce the effort required to obtain it); and epic-ify the quests so it's competitive with current endgame.

Disagree about XP runs. ETK is massive XP per min, as is monestary.

The rest, I agree.

[Tahkhesis]

If you just made the runes general augments.

YES! Scrap the runes, make the dragon touched just have like a blue and a green slot, up the AC, call it a day.

[cru121]

1) Get rid of the Sventusk Gem stuff for flagging. Add a gem turnin vendor who takes gems and gives you armor ingredients.
2) Get rid of reflagging.
3) Improve base armor stats, make them BtA.
4) Replace all runes and ingredients with a single type (BtA), use it to purchase base armors and armor improvements.

5) Consider nerfing the failure conditions / annoyances in normal / hard (?) versions of the quests.

[Qhualor]

if there was to be a next pack rehashed for epic content, this should be it. RR is so easy to make epic and revitalize I am surprised it hasn't been done already.

1. scale runes to be +2 better than random gear at that level

2. add new runes like assassinate, MP, Repair Amp and Insightful X

3. obviously prefer new epic content for the pack, but continue the story line in those quests with a twist as legendary

4. make SOS a raid and continue the story line with a twist

5. upgrade heroic DT armor to epic with epic runes and augment slots

6. make the epic armor arguably best in slot for level 30

7. make more set bonuses like the heroic version