Arcane Archer elemental/force damage dice

[Ymandra]

Hi all,

I just started an Arcane Archer (ranger) -- first time doing a ranged class and I'm only level 2 in it. Arcane Archer damage dice are really confusing though. I tried searching and googling for an answer, but nothing really comes up that is helpful.

For example:

Tier 1 Flaming Arrows: Passive: "+1 damage die with all Arcane Archer Elemental Arrows"
Tier 2 Force Arrows: "Gaining additional Elemental Damage dice in the Arcane Archer tree increases Force Arrows dice."

Now, I just finished Misery's Peak and I was only doing 1d4 force damage with force arrows active (and not elemental). By the wording of the AA tree, I should be doing 2d4 force. 1d4 from force, and 1d4 from elemental arrows. I should have done - at worst - 2 force per hit. However, I was doing 1 damage quite often, which should be impossible.

How exactly does the AA tree work? Am I misunderstanding the wording, or do force arrows not actually rank up in damage? Should I dump force arrows entirely since they don't return the "buff" to other arrows?

Appreciate the help, thanks!

[RD2play]

I believe the first tier for elemental arrows does not increase force, it only give you one dice in an elemental stance. It is T2 (3,4) elemental arrow, where next to picking up an extra elemental you also get +1 dice to your others, including force. Here you will also have to choice for "Damage" over "Arrow" which gives + 2 dice to both the element(s) you have and force.

So with only T1 elemental and T2 force you would not see an increase in the force DMG until you also pick up T2 elemental arrow

[Mindos]

Hi all,

I just started an Arcane Archer (ranger) -- first time doing a ranged class and I'm only level 2 in it. Arcane Archer damage dice are really confusing though. I tried searching and googling for an answer, but nothing really comes up that is helpful.

For example:

Tier 1 Flaming Arrows: Passive: "+1 damage die with all Arcane Archer Elemental Arrows"
Tier 2 Force Arrows: "Gaining additional Elemental Damage dice in the Arcane Archer tree increases Force Arrows dice."

Now, I just finished Misery's Peak and I was only doing 1d4 force damage with force arrows active (and not elemental). By the wording of the AA tree, I should be doing 2d4 force. 1d4 from force, and 1d4 from elemental arrows. I should have done - at worst - 2 force per hit. However, I was doing 1 damage quite often, which should be impossible.

How exactly does the AA tree work? Am I misunderstanding the wording, or do force arrows not actually rank up in damage? Should I dump force arrows entirely since they don't return the "buff" to other arrows?

Appreciate the help, thanks!

Try reseting the tree, and seeing how much damage force does before and after taking the element. Might be a bug.

Just a tip to watch for: Sometimes the arrow imbues turn themselves off after log off. It's annoying, I find myself doing no extra damage, and then remember I didn't turn them back on.

[Mindos]

Hi all,

I just started an Arcane Archer (ranger) -- first time doing a ranged class and I'm only level 2 in it. Arcane Archer damage dice are really confusing though. I tried searching and googling for an answer, but nothing really comes up that is helpful.

For example:

Tier 1 Flaming Arrows: Passive: "+1 damage die with all Arcane Archer Elemental Arrows"
Tier 2 Force Arrows: "Gaining additional Elemental Damage dice in the Arcane Archer tree increases Force Arrows dice."

Now, I just finished Misery's Peak and I was only doing 1d4 force damage with force arrows active (and not elemental). By the wording of the AA tree, I should be doing 2d4 force. 1d4 from force, and 1d4 from elemental arrows. I should have done - at worst - 2 force per hit. However, I was doing 1 damage quite often, which should be impossible.

How exactly does the AA tree work? Am I misunderstanding the wording, or do force arrows not actually rank up in damage? Should I dump force arrows entirely since they don't return the "buff" to other arrows?

Appreciate the help, thanks!

ALSO: Make sure you drag the new upgraded force arrow onto the hotbar. Everytime you update a tiered ability, you must re-drag it in order to get the upgraded effect. It's possible you took force first, then elemental die, which may have buggered the effect. Try re-dragging it to the hotbar and see if that works.

[Sam1313]

In the end. The final end, Force Arrows is your friend.

[unbongwah]

How exactly does the AA tree work? Am I misunderstanding the wording, or do force arrows not actually rank up in damage? Should I dump force arrows entirely since they don't return the "buff" to other arrows?

Elemental Arrows do 1d8 dmg + 2d8 for each rank of Elemental Damage you take, so a max of 9d8 dmg if/when you take T5 Elemental Dmg. Force Arrows is d4/d6/d6+Force Burst plus 2d4/2d6 per rank of Elemental Damage, so a max of 9d6+Force Burst with T5 Elemental Dmg. I.e., the first rank of Elemental Arrows does nothing for Force Arrows; so in your case, only getting d4 Force dmg is the expected outcome.

At low levels, your best bet is to pick a elemental dmg type and max it out; by lvl 2 you should have 3d8 dmg with one imbue type. B/c of their lower dmg die, Force Arrows should be reserved for incorporeal enemies (e.g., wraiths) or those immune to elemental dmg, IMO.

Also, don't forget to equip a Spellpower item for your chosen element to increase imbue dmg. For a first-lifer, I like Shock Arrows + Cannith Wind Bracers b/c they also provide perma-Blur, Dodge, and Air Guard at higher lvls.

[Doutrinador]

Elemental Arrows do 1d8 dmg + 2d8 for each rank of Elemental Damage you take, so a max of 9d8 dmg if/when you take T5 Elemental Dmg. Force Arrows is d4/d6/d6+Force Burst plus 2d4/2d6 per rank of Elemental Damage, so a max of 9d6+Force Burst with T5 Elemental Dmg. I.e., the first rank of Elemental Arrows does nothing for Force Arrows; so in your case, only getting d4 Force dmg is the expected outcome.

At low levels, your best bet is to pick a elemental dmg type and max it out; by lvl 2 you should have 3d8 dmg with one imbue type. B/c of their lower dmg die, Force Arrows should be reserved for incorporeal enemies (e.g., wraiths) or those immune to elemental dmg, IMO.

Also, don't forget to equip a Spellpower item for your chosen element to increase imbue dmg. For a first-lifer, I like Shock Arrows + Cannith Wind Bracers b/c they also provide perma-Blur, Dodge, and Air Guard at higher lvls.

The spell critical bonus from Lore Itens or past lives work with Elemental arrows?

Thx

[Garix]

The spell critical bonus from Lore Itens or past lives work with Elemental arrows?

Thx

No. Just spell power.

EDIT:

Elemental Arrows do 1d8 dmg + 2d8 for each rank of Elemental Damage you take, so a max of 9d8 dmg if/when you take T5 Elemental Dmg. Force Arrows is d4/d6/d6+Force Burst plus 2d4/2d6 per rank of Elemental Damage, so a max of 9d6+Force Burst with T5 Elemental Dmg. I.e., the first rank of Elemental Arrows does nothing for Force Arrows; so in your case, only getting d4 Force dmg is the expected outcome.

At low levels, your best bet is to pick a elemental dmg type and max it out; by lvl 2 you should have 3d8 dmg with one imbue type. B/c of their lower dmg die, Force Arrows should be reserved for incorporeal enemies (e.g., wraiths) or those immune to elemental dmg, IMO.

Also, don't forget to equip a Spellpower item for your chosen element to increase imbue dmg. For a first-lifer, I like Shock Arrows + Cannith Wind Bracers b/c they also provide perma-Blur, Dodge, and Air Guard at higher lvls.

While I agree with what you say, it isn't what the actual description implies.

For Example, you take everything but elemental arrows untill you've spent enough to unlock and take Force Arrows. Now you decide to add the 1st of the elemental line. At this point the description of Elemental Arrows (primarily this bit - Tier 1 Flaming Arrows: Passive: "+1 damage die with all Arcane Archer Elemental Arrows") would lead people to believe that they should be getting a boost to their force damage as well.