WTT: Goggles +7 Insightful Intelligence, +13 Seeker, +2 UMD Looking for TP or boxes

[ThreeEyedBob]

OK, so I have had this conundrum if I wanted to save my super-goggles or trade them for things I really need more.

I'm looking for offers in Turbine Point codes or bundles of Heroic/Epic Otto Boxes.

Here is a link to a screenshot of the goggles http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/...pstsk5fxh0.jpg

PM me here or ingame on Eileenia.

Not looking to drag this out a lot so if I good offer is made I'll trade pretty quickly.

[jakeelala]

As someone who trades stones often, and who has several characters that wish to max Seeker and Int (throwers, xbows) I will tell you now expecting a "bundle" of stones is probably going let you down.

I've bought +7 Dex and +7 Wisdom items from the ASAH for 100-600 shards. All of which are less than the cost in TP of a single box with a stone in it.

I'm not trying to troll you at all, and I'm not particularly interested in this piece of gear, but I am trying to help you eventually get this traded if that's your wish. The fact, the incremental benefit of a single Insightful +1 stat bonus over far more common +6 items is quite small for the majority of builds. People who NEED it are casters ,and it can easily be slotted on a LGS weapon at Tier 2 after 2 runs of Shroud on LH.

Sorry if this comes across as overly negative, but its hard learned trading items myself.

[Vellrad]

Nice item to put on between fate spinner and reincarnation grove.
I'd advise you to save it, until there's reason to stay at cap for more than a while.

[Zebedar]

OK, so I have had this conundrum if I wanted to save my super-goggles or trade them for things I really need more.

I'm looking for offers in Turbine Point codes or bundles of Heroic/Epic Otto Boxes.

Here is a link to a screenshot of the goggles http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/...pstsk5fxh0.jpg

PM me here or ingame on Eileenia.

Not looking to drag this out a lot so if I good offer is made I'll trade pretty quickly.

Totally reasonable price, top-end insight int + top-end seeker + a bonus umd = extraordinary items, exceptionally rare.

Be patient, don't let anyone beat you down on it. Boxes easy, just a cash transaction on demand and convenient that many of us players are lucky enough to make without too much problem or even consideration. Whereas an item like that? it will not drop again for you in a dog's age. So sell it dearly. I purchased a +7 insightful +20 spellcraft for 11ktp and feel like I got the best of the deal.

Best of luck.

[cru121]

I purchased a +7 insightful +20 spellcraft for 11ktp

Thanks for supporting the game!

[jakeelala]

Totally reasonable price, top-end insight int + top-end seeker + a bonus umd = extraordinary items, exceptionally rare.

Be patient, don't let anyone beat you down on it. Boxes easy, just a cash transaction on demand and convenient that many of us players are lucky enough to make without too much problem or even consideration. Whereas an item like that? it will not drop again for you in a dog's age. So sell it dearly. I purchased a +7 insightful +20 spellcraft for 11ktp and feel like I got the best of the deal.

Best of luck.

Well,

One person overpaying for something does give you some hope I suppose. But very few people would consider 11k TP for such an item, and frankly, if you have the kind of income that would support such a costly video game transaction for short term gratification, that's your money to depart with.

Fact is, spend a few TP on Loot Boost (new and old) and you will get a +7 Insight item about 1 out of every 100 chest pulls on chests with a base loot level of 35+ (31+LE+Loot Gem)

[Zebedar]

Well,

One person overpaying for something does give you some hope I suppose. But very few people would consider 11k TP for such an item, and frankly, if you have the kind of income that would support such a costly video game transaction for short term gratification, that's your money to depart with.

Fact is, spend a few TP on Loot Boost (new and old) and you will get a +7 Insight item about 1 out of every 100 chest pulls on chests with a base loot level of 35+ (31+LE+Loot Gem)

Son, I can't say that I appreciate your tone here. You want to disagree that's your prerogative, but it's not you prerogative to be insulting to me or condescending to the seller, sort yourself out before bring that kind of nonsense on to these forums. I have not reported you here, but I would advise you to consider your words, intent, or target the next time you have sour grapes about someone disagreeing with you. As I said, you have every right to disagree, but I won't put up with having myself or another Kyberite snarked at like this.

Nuff said.

[jakeelala]

Son, I can't say that I appreciate your tone here. You want to disagree that's your prerogative, but it's not you prerogative to be insulting to me or condescending to the seller, sort yourself out before bring that kind of nonsense on to these forums. I have not reported you here, but I would advise you to consider your words, intent, or target the next time you have sour grapes about someone disagreeing with you. As I said, you have every right to disagree, but I won't put up with having myself or another Kyberite snarked at like this.

Nuff said.

Go ahead and report, I didn't say anything rude or offensive. I think 11k TP is wildly overpriced for the item you mentioned. I am fully within my rights to express that opinion.

You aren't forum police. You don't get to tell me what to write or how to write it. And you don't get to threaten me or coyly call me names (like snarky). In fact, if anyone is in need of being reported, it's you.

[Renvar]

Son, I can't say that I appreciate your tone here. You want to disagree that's your prerogative, but it's not you prerogative to be insulting to me or condescending to the seller, sort yourself out before bring that kind of nonsense on to these forums. I have not reported you here, but I would advise you to consider your words, intent, or target the next time you have sour grapes about someone disagreeing with you. As I said, you have every right to disagree, but I won't put up with having myself or another Kyberite snarked at like this.

Nuff said.

Your post is inflammatory and contains personal attacks and insults. His did none of that. And it's not the first time you have crossed the line on these forums.

Everyone has a personal perspective on value in game vs real world. You have excess real world resources and prefer to use some to accelerate gear grind. That's fine. Others either do not have such resources or prefer not to spend them in that manner. That's fine too.

On topic of the item, the price asked is a bit much for my personal desire for the item. (I spend money on the game to accelerate xp grind not gear grind. That's my personal preference). The op can wait for someone who agrees with their value estimation, which may mean it takes longer to sell. Or lower the price to gain access to a larger group of buyers. Supply and demand and all. Kind of depends on how quickly they want to sell.

[Hobgoblin]

just out of curiosity -


not knocking anyone here, but what is the price for that?


I know the op was a little vague, but am curious for what something would go for.

I have a + 5 version of the same thing that i am debating on selling or using.

so just curious to see what a ballpark on it is

[Renvar]

just out of curiosity -


not knocking anyone here, but what is the price for that?


I know the op was a little vague, but am curious for what something would go for.

I have a + 5 version of the same thing that i am debating on selling or using.

so just curious to see what a ballpark on it is

I'd say the value is around 1000-1500 shards if you want to wait to get someone who wants this piece of loot to fit a gear out and it is the right stuff in the right slot. At 500 shards ~ 2500TP and 5000TP = 1 Otto's box, I'd say a value somewhere between 1 Otto's box or a 5k TP code and 1 1/2 Otto's boxes and 7500TP. Given that points can be purchased on sale, which devalues the shards slightly from their typical price.

If you want to move it quickly and not wait for the "motivated" buyer, then you would probably be looking at a price in the 600-900 shard range. Something slightly below the value of an Otto's box. You might need to throw in a kicker to get a full otto's box or 5k TP code.

That's my personal take on it based on what I see on the Shard AH and recent transactions I've heard of.

That being said, the value of the +5 is significantly lower, because they are much more common. But combined with Seeker and UMD, it is still a strong item with 3 good effects. Items with 3 good effects are valuable. But probably more in the 100-150 shard range. (But you could list it on the AH for double that for 3 days repeatedly and wait for someone to pay for convenience. You will eventually find a motivated buyer at a higher price point.)

[jakeelala]

I'd say the value is around 1000-1500 shards if you want to wait to get someone who wants this piece of loot to fit a gear out and it is the right stuff in the right slot. At 500 shards ~ 2500TP and 5000TP = 1 Otto's box, I'd say a value somewhere between 1 Otto's box or a 5k TP code and 1 1/2 Otto's boxes and 7500TP. Given that points can be purchased on sale, which devalues the shards slightly from their typical price.

If you want to move it quickly and not wait for the "motivated" buyer, then you would probably be looking at a price in the 600-900 shard range. Something slightly below the value of an Otto's box. You might need to throw in a kicker to get a full otto's box or 5k TP code.

That's my personal take on it based on what I see on the Shard AH and recent transactions I've heard of.

That being said, the value of the +5 is significantly lower, because they are much more common. But combined with Seeker and UMD, it is still a strong item with 3 good effects. Items with 3 good effects are valuable. But probably more in the 100-150 shard range. (But you could list it on the AH for double that for 3 days repeatedly and wait for someone to pay for convenience. You will eventually find a motivated buyer at a higher price point.)

what he said

[Hobgoblin]

I'd say the value is around 1000-1500 shards if you want to wait to get someone who wants this piece of loot to fit a gear out and it is the right stuff in the right slot. At 500 shards ~ 2500TP and 5000TP = 1 Otto's box, I'd say a value somewhere between 1 Otto's box or a 5k TP code and 1 1/2 Otto's boxes and 7500TP. Given that points can be purchased on sale, which devalues the shards slightly from their typical price.

If you want to move it quickly and not wait for the "motivated" buyer, then you would probably be looking at a price in the 600-900 shard range. Something slightly below the value of an Otto's box. You might need to throw in a kicker to get a full otto's box or 5k TP code.

That's my personal take on it based on what I see on the Shard AH and recent transactions I've heard of.

That being said, the value of the +5 is significantly lower, because they are much more common. But combined with Seeker and UMD, it is still a strong item with 3 good effects. Items with 3 good effects are valuable. But probably more in the 100-150 shard range. (But you could list it on the AH for double that for 3 days repeatedly and wait for someone to pay for convenience. You will eventually find a motivated buyer at a higher price point.)

ok thats awesome. i put it up for 300 shards starting with 1100 buyout. sold in about 30 minutes!

[ThreeEyedBob]

Heh, looks like I should have tuned in to my post a bit more often than glance at my Notification box LOL...

As for value it is always subjective. But this is the top of the line buff you can have for insight bonus. Sure, you can have the LGS weapon, but that is the problem with the LGS, its weapons. Most would prefer either a nice melee/missile weapon or caster sticks with relevant spellpower/crit. So it is not just top of the line but prefered option (equipment slot).

Long story short, I would never ever in my life trade this for less than 2 boxes worth. I have been around for a while. I know what top end items can trade for. And I'm not in a hurry.

Anyone actually interested can just send me a PM and I will consider it.

No need to cross swords here please :-) Evaluation is always subjective. Once man's treasure is another man's trash. Its an old saying and its true. But not apreciating the value of something does not make the item less worth. Its like saying gold is a barbaric relic...

[Renvar]

ok thats awesome. i put it up for 300 shards starting with 1100 buyout. sold in about 30 minutes!

Gratz!!!

[sudzz]

Heh, looks like I should have tuned in to my post a bit more often than glance at my Notification box LOL...

As for value it is always subjective. But this is the top of the line buff you can have for insight bonus. Sure, you can have the LGS weapon, but that is the problem with the LGS, its weapons. Most would prefer either a nice melee/missile weapon or caster sticks with relevant spellpower/crit. So it is not just top of the line but prefered option (equipment slot).

Long story short, I would never ever in my life trade this for less than 2 boxes worth. I have been around for a while. I know what top end items can trade for. And I'm not in a hurry.

Anyone actually interested can just send me a PM and I will consider it.

No need to cross swords here please :-) Evaluation is always subjective. Once man's treasure is another man's trash. Its an old saying and its true. But not apreciating the value of something does not make the item less worth. Its like saying gold is a barbaric relic...

Always worth remembering too that not so long ago I pulled a +4 to +5 upgrade tome think it was Con or Wis, stuck it on ASH for opening at 50 shards, closed for over 500, less than 4 months on and the same is lucky to sell for 80-100. The longer this loot is out and generating the more common it will become or even better will come in another pass and make even it redundant to some degree.

[Uska]

I'd say the value is around 1000-1500 shards if you want to wait to get someone who wants this piece of loot to fit a gear out and it is the right stuff in the right slot. At 500 shards ~ 2500TP and 5000TP = 1 Otto's box, I'd say a value somewhere between 1 Otto's box or a 5k TP code and 1 1/2 Otto's boxes and 7500TP. Given that points can be purchased on sale, which devalues the shards slightly from their typical price.

If you want to move it quickly and not wait for the "motivated" buyer, then you would probably be looking at a price in the 600-900 shard range. Something slightly below the value of an Otto's box. You might need to throw in a kicker to get a full otto's box or 5k TP code.

That's my personal take on it based on what I see on the Shard AH and recent transactions I've heard of.

That being said, the value of the +5 is significantly lower, because they are much more common. But combined with Seeker and UMD, it is still a strong item with 3 good effects. Items with 3 good effects are valuable. But probably more in the 100-150 shard range. (But you could list it on the AH for double that for 3 days repeatedly and wait for someone to pay for convenience. You will eventually find a motivated buyer at a higher price point.)

sounds right to me

[Cordovan]

This thread is a good example of why we generally don't want people to give advice to a seller on the listed price of the item. Let the market handle itself. If someone is asking too much for something, fine! Don't buy it. Whether you are interested in paying X for Y isn't particularly relevant. It's different if someone is asking how much X is worth. That's not the case here.

You can watch these threads deteriorate into fighting and reported posts shortly after someone critiques someone else's price virtually every time.

[AtomicMew]

Son, I can't say that I appreciate your tone here. You want to disagree that's your prerogative, but it's not you prerogative to be insulting to me or condescending to the seller, sort yourself out before bring that kind of nonsense on to these forums. I have not reported you here, but I would advise you to consider your words, intent, or target the next time you have sour grapes about someone disagreeing with you. As I said, you have every right to disagree, but I won't put up with having myself or another Kyberite snarked at like this.

Nuff said.

Starting a post off with "Son" is definitely insulting. This is not appropriate in the slightest for these forums.

[Enoach]

This thread is a good example of why we generally don't want people to give advice to a seller on the listed price of the item. Let the market handle itself. If someone is asking too much for something, fine! Don't buy it. Whether you are interested in paying X for Y isn't particularly relevant. It's different if someone is asking how much X is worth. That's not the case here.

You can watch these threads deteriorate into fighting and reported posts shortly after someone critiques someone else's price virtually every time.

There is a lot of truth in these words, a person can ask whatever they want and someone serious in buying can pay or counter with what they are willing to spend. If the seller is asking too much that will become apparent to them when they are unable to sell the item. However, it is just as possible someone will think the price fair and the item will sell. In this case the seller is not in a hurry and so for them the asking price is fair. Weather we think it is fair only removes us as potential buyers or makes us a new owner of what the seller is selling.