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    Default Help with freeze vamp build

    I am going to be in a iconic vamp static group..first life..have to have at least 6 wiz to get vamp..I am going to play a pdk freeze bard wiz pm and not sure 3rd class..need at least 12 bard for freeze type right?? Or should I keep 2 class's..or add 2 rogue assassin tree ??please help..really appreciated all the help in advance

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    Well, if you're planning to play a PDK, then your third class would be fighter (unless you are willing and permitted to use a +1 LR to remove the fighter level).

    Technically you only need 5 levels of bard for Freezing ICe from T5 Warchanter, however the DC is based on half bard level so having more bard levels is good.

    Are there any other restrictions, specifically are you able to get gear from the AH?

    Also, do you have access to the Harper tree?

    I'll have a think and put a build together,

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    I totally forgot bout the fighter lvl..lol..I don't have harper..I would love to see your build..we can use ah and the goodies from this wknd..we begin next Friday..def gonna use the sh SWD route at some point..will want skirmisher from swash tree

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    No problem, I'll put something together now then.


    Oh yes, while I remember, do you have access to 32pt builds?

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    Yes I do..ty

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    I think you'd want 7 or 8 wizard to get death aura and negative energy burst, as those will be your main undead heals. Lesser Death aura probably won't cut it alone. At least 4 fighter for some worthwhile defensive stance stuff. I may also try to put something together, methinks AP will be tight no matter what. Sounds like good fun though!

    Alright, I have no idea how gimp this would be. It'll get you bard, vamp + healing spells, and potentially fighter stance by 15. You'll want to take the cormyr training for cha damage, vamp stuff, and then go high in warchanter for the medium armor stuff. Eldritch is for another cleave plus the shield proficiency. AP at 15 will be tight, and as I rarely play these classes/styles quite a bit is probably pretty variable.

    Split-wise, I wanted to get you inspire greatness and another bard spell so weirder wizard stuff could be taken. But really, it could go 3/8/9, 4/7/9, 3/7/10, etc. Just at least 7 wiz for the better negative healing spells. I also ended up going high on bard for skill points as they were really weird.

    Please wait for others to comment, I cannot guarantee that anything about this build would work well

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    Level 20 True Neutral Purple Dragon Knight Male
    (3 Fighter \ 8 Wizard \ 9 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 237
    Spell Points: 815 
    BAB: 13\13\18\23
    Fortitude: 10
    Reflex: 8
    Will: 20
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             13                    13
    Dexterity             8                     8
    Constitution         14                    15
    Intelligence         13                    13
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             18                    24
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               0                     9
    Bluff                 0                     7
    Concentration         0                    25
    Diplomacy             0                     7
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                0                     7
    Heal                  2                    10
    Hide                  0                    -1
    Intimidate            4                    11
    Jump                  4                     8
    Listen                0                    -1
    Move Silently         0                    -1
    Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a                  30
    Repair                0                     1
    Search                0                     1
    Spellcraft            0                     2
    Spot                  0                    -1
    Swim                  0                     1
    Tumble                1                     1
    Use Magic Device      1                    30
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Shield Mastery
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 2 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell
    
    
    Level 3 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    
    
    Level 4 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 5 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
    
    
    Level 7 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 9 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 16 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Cormyrean Knight Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Stalwart Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Stalwart Defensive Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Stalwart Defensive Mastery (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Resilient Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Skaldic Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Song of Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Enchant Weapon (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Armorer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Expeditious Chant (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Expeditious Chant (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Expeditious Chant (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Howl of the North (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Eldritch Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Spellsword: Frost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Toughness (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Toughness (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Shield Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Arcane Barrier (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Reaping (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Zombie (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Vampire (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 3)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadrios View Post
    Technically you only need 5 levels of bard for Freezing ICe from T5 Warchanter, however the DC is based on half bard level so having more bard levels is good.
    Don't forget the new ftr tactics feats apply to WC DCs. However, if OP needs 6 wiz lvls for vamp and 5 bard lvls for WC, that means no more than 9 ftr lvls; so really a 6/6/8 split is the best he could do. That gets him +6 DCs from ftr feats, which is +2 what he would get from 8 extra bard lvls.

    That said, I'd be concerned about spreading this build too thin trying to be a freeze-specced Swashbuckling vampire. I don't like diluting my DC-based abilities too much.
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    There is six of us..a necro cleric is one for sure..a thrower build..we all have to be vampire minimum.. I have not played a freeze bard yet so that is why I chose it..I will def use the help..I will keep you updated..hopefully we can get our stuff on video..unbo how would you build this flavor build if it were you??

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    Default doing one too I like freeze builds as you know Kadrios

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadrios View Post
    No problem, I'll put something together now then.


    Oh yes, while I remember, do you have access to 32pt builds?
    PDK starts at 32 as default
    still want to see what you got for him Kadrios
    but real shame no harper tree KTA really helps in builds with tactical DCs
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    I was VIP..sub ran out..will b back to it on the 15 of march..so I can lesser heart if need be..build for harper n non Harper if you could..I really appreciate it..

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    Default Vamp swashbuckler for Garzan123

    Garzan123 didn't I do something like this before for you https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5664106 but that was before the new fighter feats and before I had played some more freezing builds my self not sure if this one is better with out the harper tree. Just wondering how did that one turn out.
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    Level 30 Neutral Good Purple Dragon Knight Male
    (4 Fighter \ 8 Wizard \ 8 Bard \ 10 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 325
    Spell Points: 1173 
    BAB: 14\14\19\24
    Fortitude: 13
    Reflex: 13
    Will: 21
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 30)           (Level 30)
    Strength             13                 13                   13
    Dexterity             8                  8                    8
    Constitution         15                 15                   16
    Intelligence         14                 14                   14
    Wisdom                8                  8                    8
    Charisma             17                 24                   27
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 30)          (Level 30)
    Balance               2                 20                   19
    Bluff                 0                 10                   18
    Concentration         2                 33                   36
    Diplomacy             0                 10                   18
    Disable Device        n/a              n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                0                 10                   18
    Heal                  2                 21                   20
    Hide                  0                 10                    9
    Intimidate            0                 10                   18
    Jump                  4                 24                   25
    Listen                0                 10                    9
    Move Silently         0                 10                    9
    Open Lock             n/a              n/a                    n/a
    Perform               n/a               33                   41
    Repair                0                 10                   12
    Search                0                 10                   12
    Spellcraft            0                 21                   23
    Spot                  0                 10                    9
    Swim                  0                 10                   11
    Tumble                n/a               13                   12
    Use Magic Device      2                 33                   41
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Heal (+2)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Shield Mastery
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Single Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+3)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+3)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+3)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Single Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 9 (Wizard)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+5)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Tacticle Training
    
    
    Level 12 (Wizard)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Wizard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
    
    
    Level 14 (Wizard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
    
    
    Level 15 (Wizard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Empower Spell
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery
    
    
    Level 16 (Wizard)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Adaptability: Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Cormyrean Knight Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Skaldic Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Song of Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Enchant Weapon (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Reckless Chant (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Reckless Chant (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Reckless Chant (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Reaping (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Zombie (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Vampire (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy III (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Confidence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Swashbuckling (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Action Boost: Doublestrike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Action Boost: Doublestrike (Rank 2)
    
    
    Level 17 (Wizard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
    
    
    Level 18 (Wizard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Single Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Perform (+6)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+7)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Intensify Spell
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Martial Sphere: Tactician
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Divine Sphere: Epic Spell Power: Negative
    
    
    Level 29 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Multiple Spheres: Arcane Warrior
    
    
    Level 30 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction
    Feat: (Legendary) Scion of the Shadowfell
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Howl of the North (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Action Boost: Doublestrike (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Skirmisher (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - To the Fore! (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Specialization I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - No Weakness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - No Weakness (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 3)
    So to short stop some of the questions:
    Why the level split 4 fighter for new tactical feat. 8 wiz gets you the better neg healing spells (at 7) Death Aura 2d4 healing plus 1 per two caster levels so you want even levels & at 8 wiz +1 to BAB, +1 will save and one more 4th level spell so you can D door. 8 Bard agen 1+ BAB and Improved Inspire Courage, freezing DC uses 1/2 bard level so even good here to, but the big reason not going for the minimum of 5 for T5 WC is that the duration of the freeze is your bard lev in seconds and from experience any lower then 8 is too short. I run one with 8 Bard and it seems just long enough
    had a tough time with going Vanguard for the +3 DC for freezing or Stalwart Defender in the end it came down to just thinking you would need better DC in EE for freezing but if you find it otherwize that 8 points will get you defender stance with 2 left over for Chant of Power 2

    P.S. this is the non harper build was working on it when you posted that you might get it so will post one with that tree soon

    P.P.S. You must really like undead here was another one https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5767743 did that one do well? Which one did you like more and why it might help me with this one.
    Last edited by Kentpb; 02-27-2016 at 09:17 PM.

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    Sorry for taking a while to put this together.

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    Freezing Vamp
    10/7/3 Bard/Wizard/Fighter
    True Neutral Purple Dragon Knight
    
    
    Level Order
    
    1. Fighter         6. Bard           11. Wizard         16. Bard
    2. Bard            7. Wizard         12. Bard           17. Bard
    3. Wizard          8. Bard           13. Wizard         18. Bard
    4. Fighter         9. Wizard         14. Wizard         19. Bard
    5. Wizard         10. Bard           15. Fighter        20. Bard
    
    
    Stats
                   32pt     Level Up
                   ----     --------
    Strength         8       4: CHA
    Dexterity       14       8: CHA
    Constitution    14      12: CHA
    Intelligence    12      16: CHA
    Wisdom           8      20: CHA
    Charisma        18      24: CHA
                            28: CHA
    
    Skills
              F  B  W  F  W  B  W  B  W  B  W  B  W  W  F  B  B  B  B  B
              1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
             ------------------------------------------------------------
    Perform   2  3  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    UMD          3  1  ½  ½        1  ½  3  ½  3        1  3  3  1  1  1  23
    Concent   1              1     1  1  1                 2  2  4  3  2  18
    Heal                     2  1  2½    1     1     1     ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  11
    Balance   2  2     ½  ½  2                                             7
    Spellcr                              1  1  2           1  1            6
    Haggle                                                       1  2  3   6
    Jump      4                                   1                        5
    Tumble    1                                                            1
             ------------------------------------------------------------
             16  8  4  4  4  8  4  8  4  8  4  8  4  4  4  8  8  8  8  8
    
    
    Feats
    
     1        : Precision
     1 PDK    : Dodge
     1 Fighter: Shield Mastery
     3        : Single Weapon Fighting
     3 Wizard : Mental Toughness
     4 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Piercing
     6        : Force of Personality
     9        : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
    11 Wizard : Improved Mental Toughness
    12        : Mobility
    15        : Improved Critical: Piercing
    18        : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
    21 Epic   : Improved Shield Mastery
    24 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    26 Destiny: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
    28 Destiny: Tactician
    29 Destiny: Holy Strike
    30 Epic   : Blinding Speed
    30 Legend : Scion of: Astral Plane OR Feywild OR Shadowfell
    
    
    Spells
    
    Bard
    
    1. <Any>, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
    2. <Any>, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
    3. <Any>, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
    4. <Any>, <Any>
    Wizard
    1. <Any>, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
    2. Lesser Death Aura, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
    3. <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
    4. Death Aura, Negative Energy Burst
    Enhancements (80 AP) Warchanter (38 AP)
    • Skaldic: Constitution, Weapon Training, Song of Heroism
      1. Poetic Edda I, Rough and Ready III
      2. Arcane Shield Chant II, Iced Edges III
      3. Ironskin Chant III, Frozen Fury III, Charisma
      4. Reckless Chant II, Northwind III, Charisma
      5. Chant of Power III, Howl of the North, Spinning Ice III
    Swashbuckler (12 AP)
    • Confidence, Swashbuckling, Uncanny Dodge
      1. On Your Toes III, Tavern Shanties I
      2. Double Strike Boost II
      3. Skirmisher
    Pale Master (11 AP)
    • Dark Reaping, Zombie Form, Vampire Form
      1. Spell Critical, Negative Energy Conduit III
      2. Bone Armor III
    Kensei (10 AP)
    • Kensei Focus: Light Blades
      1. Weapon Group Specialization, Haste Boost III
      2. Tactics II
    Stalwart Defender (6 AP)
    • Toughness, Stalwart Defense
      1. Durable Defense III, Stalwart Defensive Mastery I
    Purple Dragon Knight (3 AP)
    • Damage Boost
      1. Cormyrean Knight Training
    I've thrown in a couple of different suggestions for you legendary feat, depending on what you are looking for. Astral will boost your DCs if you find you're not quite hitting with your freezing ice as often as you'd like, Feywild is good for some extra sonic DPC, and of course Shadowfell provides you with a constant stream of healing while in melee. Each could work rather nicely in this build, so it is largely up to you.

    Mental toughness was added in to boost the chance for your death aura to crit, although swapping one of the out for extend spell is also a perfectly viable option.

    If you have any questions feel free to throw them my way.

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