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    Default Having trouble finding people to run the harder quests while leveling. Anyone else?

    I tried a "in the flesh" level 15-17 elite on Wed, Thurs and Friday. I finally solo'd it on Friday. But I had it open for 30 min each night and no one hit the lfm.

    I have the same issue for Curse the Sky and Creeping Death. I know they are hard(er), but lets guys Sarlona, we can beat these!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redoubt View Post
    I tried a "in the flesh" level 15-17 elite on Wed, Thurs and Friday. I finally solo'd it on Friday. But I had it open for 30 min each night and no one hit the lfm.

    I have the same issue for Curse the Sky and Creeping Death. I know they are hard(er), but lets guys Sarlona, we can beat these!
    usually just solo le curse the sky. its ez. 9m runs killing everything solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalaka View Post
    usually just solo le curse the sky. its ez. 9m runs killing everything solo.
    Cool.

    Also, another option would be to join a particular high level purple-named guild that almost runs a monopoly on players.

    You know the one... with no public LFMs that raid all day with just a select few non-guildies.

    Not sure what they recruitment policy is for that but you'll definitely see some raids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Textuality View Post
    Cool.

    Also, another option would be to join a particular high level purple-named guild that almost runs a monopoly on players.

    You know the one... with no public LFMs that raid all day with just a select few non-guildies.

    Not sure what they recruitment policy is for that but you'll definitely see some raids.
    Lol... I didn't even realize they changed the color of guild tags. I've had them turn off for 10 years now! But you could be right.

    On a serious note, I'm finding more times that I don't get hits on my lfms these days. It was beautiful the first month or so after the update. We ran a lot of the new stuff and then that carried into low level stuff, but the population is feeling low again. This seems pretty quick to me.

    Its not as bad as last fall when we had single digits LFMs, but I'm not seeing LFMs fill as well or as many LFMs. Is that population tracker thing still around? Anyone know how Sarlona is doing population wise?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redoubt View Post
    Lol... I didn't even realize they changed the color of guild tags. I've had them turn off for 10 years now! But you could be right.

    On a serious note, I'm finding more times that I don't get hits on my lfms these days. It was beautiful the first month or so after the update. We ran a lot of the new stuff and then that carried into low level stuff, but the population is feeling low again. This seems pretty quick to me.

    Its not as bad as last fall when we had single digits LFMs, but I'm not seeing LFMs fill as well or as many LFMs. Is that population tracker thing still around? Anyone know how Sarlona is doing population wise?

    Thanks!
    Sarlona is top population.

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    Some follow up.

    It seems rather quest dependent. Running any of the popular or daily type quests the groups fill most of the time. Running less popular or lesser xp quests the groups do not fill well.

    A few examples of things I had trouble getting groups for:

    EE red fens
    HE Missing chain
    HE creeping death and curse the sky
    HE Archon's chain
    EE Chain 3... had one person join for all 3. A second person joined at the end of the 3rd quest, but quit before running out. (This one really surprise me, thought it would be an easy fill.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by redoubt View Post
    Some follow up.

    It seems rather quest dependent. Running any of the popular or daily type quests the groups fill most of the time. Running less popular or lesser xp quests the groups do not fill well.

    A few examples of things I had trouble getting groups for:

    EE red fens
    Usually fills on Cannith but does require a little patience not immediate IP {Last Stand could be finished by the time people get there otherwise so they just don't bother joining. If you start with Claw the same.}.

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    HE Missing chain
    Depends if you put the LFM up at the right time or not - This one is really dependent on whether Levelers are at the right level to run it - 16 and they're still on GH/Orchard, 18 and they're running Vale/LoD {and gonna break BB anyway}.

    What I tend to do with 15s is start with Acid Wit and hope enough people join by the time I've finished that and Delirium and stick around for the rest of them.

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    HE creeping death and curse the sky
    These are tough atm but still new so getting a group or joining one shouldn't be too difficult.

    Again though - Put up a Group for Acid Wit/Delirium and anyone joining should stick around after for these, Missing Chain and maybe E-Star.

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    HE Archon's chain
    Really?

    Put up Group for Lordsmarch II, Follow up with Mired and then move on to Archons - Hopefully at least a couple of groupies will stick with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by redoubt View Post
    EE Chain 3... had one person join for all 3. A second person joined at the end of the 3rd quest, but quit before running out. (This one really surprise me, thought it would be an easy fill.)
    If EE Chain 3 = Demonweb I'm not at all surprised!

    This Chain suffers from serious Grouping Issues - Always has done if you don't get it done with the same group you ran KF+Schind with.

    1) A lot of Players do NOT know how to get to the Quests - They need a Guide and if you're IP they're not going to join!

    2) A lot of Players are actually capable of Zerg Soloing these quests so won't join Groups for them {If they do join a Group chances are they won't wait for anyone and will be halfway through before the Leader even realizes!}.

    3) IP has become such a big thing in DDO that many people won't join even quests like these where it really is best to wait for a Group if they're not IP {Then they do join and realize they don't know the way and leave! - Guess that's what happened with that guy who joined at the end.}.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redoubt View Post
    Some follow up.

    It seems rather quest dependent. Running any of the popular or daily type quests the groups fill most of the time. Running less popular or lesser xp quests the groups do not fill well.

    A few examples of things I had trouble getting groups for:

    EE red fens
    HE Missing chain
    HE creeping death and curse the sky
    HE Archon's chain
    EE Chain 3... had one person join for all 3. A second person joined at the end of the 3rd quest, but quit before running out. (This one really surprise me, thought it would be an easy fill.)
    Find me on Livmo and if I'm free I can switch to a toon to run one of them chains. Have lots of toons on Sarlona at various levels. I do know 3 toons need C3 for saga completion.

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    We LFMed 3 raids and 3 quests back to back last night, and filled all of them quickly. All were on LE, except hound and shroud, and filled very quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalaka View Post
    We LFMed 3 raids and 3 quests back to back last night, and filled all of them quickly. All were on LE, except hound and shroud, and filled very quickly.
    The OP is talking about Heroics!

    People are far more willing to wait for an End-Game Group - Especially for Raids.
    People will join those Groups when they're not IP already AND wait for the Group to fill!

    End-Game has the greatest concentration of Players - Those doing Past Lives or just starting out are all at different levels and doing different quests - End-Game this is not the same!

    LE Raids have the Widest Level Range allowance - Lvl 20 Players can join your LE Raid if you open the LFM up to them but let's say you make it 25-30....That's still 6 total levels of Players!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FranOhmsford View Post
    The OP is talking about Heroics!

    People are far more willing to wait for an End-Game Group - Especially for Raids.
    People will join those Groups when they're not IP already AND wait for the Group to fill!

    End-Game has the greatest concentration of Players - Those doing Past Lives or just starting out are all at different levels and doing different quests - End-Game this is not the same!

    LE Raids have the Widest Level Range allowance - Lvl 20 Players can join your LE Raid if you open the LFM up to them but let's say you make it 25-30....That's still 6 total levels of Players!
    Heroic is just about getting the TR zerg done as efficiently as possible, hence why this happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalaka View Post
    Heroic is just about getting the TR zerg done as efficiently as possible, hence why this happens.
    Speak for yourself, sir/madam. Some of us much prefer, or even exclusively, play heroic content

    As for the OP. Yes, it can be quest dependent, or time-dependent, but keep putting up those LFM's - you'll get takers eventually. It's important to have them up, even if it seems like nobody is joining.

    It is true that being in an active guild can make it a fair bit easier to find others to party with - though you can certainly manage without one. If you are interested in joining one, however - feel free to shoot me a message

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    I am on new life atm on my main Galing...level 9 Warlock ...voodu warlock build. So not quite ready for that quest range..in a few weeks I should be there.

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...mpanion-thread

    My only ALT, Bagtit that I am playing actively atm is parked at 29 almost at cap for Legendary stuff If I feel like doing end game raids.

    I am falling behind on the current TR cycle with many of the players I usually see in PUG land....I am guessing many should be almost in your level range by now. I've been having a challenge with the warlock play style so not quite as fast leveling this life. I will be focusing on Crystal Cove / House C stuff for mats and item upgrades for some upcoming builds I want to try out so the 10th anniversary festivities will be slowing down my leveling as well.
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    Honestly, no, I have no problem finding groups for harder stuff on Sarlona. I think the key is to allow the LFM panel to dictate what you do. For instance, don't log in and say "I will run these quests now". Log in and say, "I will run whatever is up". I don't play as much as I used to, but I'm still doing a life every week in a half, and I always pug my way 1-30 on elite without problem. Some quests like the Missing Chain take some finessing. For instance, I'll start a pug for all level 15s and save the Missing Chain for last. Most people will stay for it, and you don't have to wait for it to fill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redoubt View Post
    Some follow up.

    It seems rather quest dependent. Running any of the popular or daily type quests the groups fill most of the time. Running less popular or lesser xp quests the groups do not fill well.

    A few examples of things I had trouble getting groups for:

    EE red fens
    HE Missing chain
    HE creeping death and curse the sky
    HE Archon's chain
    EE Chain 3... had one person join for all 3. A second person joined at the end of the 3rd quest, but quit before running out. (This one really surprise me, thought it would be an easy fill.)

    I play on Sarlona and there are many quests I would like to do. I will say, just speaking for myself, that I tend to avoid HE/EE groups (which are all that exist on the LFM panel much of the time) because I usually cannot keep up. Plus if anything is 'in progress' I don't join because, again, I can't catch up, especially if it's a chain. As a result I mostly solo on Hard. But I certainly hope that you are able to find players for the quests you need.

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