Iconic Builds for New Players

**Stoner81** · 08-28-2016, 08:03 AM

Thanks for the SDK Mechanic build dude

Stoner81.

**Enderoc** · 08-28-2016, 09:21 AM

May I suggest new players reach 20 before creating an iconic alt to help gear them. Then take the main through past lives and the Iconics through epic past lives to keep two characters... One in heroics the other in epics. Iconic reincarnate every time you change spheres.

**NaturalHazard** · 09-02-2016, 06:34 PM

I think i might do the pure Bladeforged Paladin ITR my bladeforged staff monk/rogue/paladin into it once I get it up to cap. Does the stunning blow feat increase your dire charge dc?

**Discpsycho** · 09-03-2016, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by NaturalHazard

I think i might do the pure Bladeforged Paladin ITR my bladeforged staff monk/rogue/paladin into it once I get it up to cap. Does the stunning blow feat increase your dire charge dc?

Stunning blow doesn't increase your DC (or if it does, it's not listed in the wiki), but you can always get Combat Mastery or Stunning items. As a Pally, Dire Charge won't work in uber-endgame, but it'll be fine most other places and at the very least acts as a gap-closer

**NaturalHazard** · 09-03-2016, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Discpsycho

Stunning blow doesn't increase your DC (or if it does, it's not listed in the wiki), but you can always get Combat Mastery or Stunning items. As a Pally, Dire Charge won't work in uber-endgame, but it'll be fine most other places and at the very least acts as a gap-closer

ok just was wondering why it was listed, its taken late, the str on a pally using divine might so the dc should be ok for EH at least on stun and furious charge? BF also get some tactic's as well.

**padith22** · 09-20-2016, 10:26 AM

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SDK Mechanic
Rogue 20
True Neutral Shadar-kai


Stats
               32pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength         8                4: INT
Dexterity       18       +2       8: INT
Constitution    14               12: DEX
Intelligence    18               16: INT
Wisdom           8               20: INT
Charisma         6               24: INT
                                 28: INT

Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Disable   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Open Lo   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Search    4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Spot      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Bluff     4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Diplo     4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Hide      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Move Si   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Tumble    4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
UMD       4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Balance   1                    1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  2  15
Concent   2     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     11
Heal      1  1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1  11
Jump      1                                                            1
         ------------------------------------------------------------
         48 12 12 12 12 12 12 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 14


Feats

 1        : Point Blank Shot
 3        : Rapid Shot
 6        : Rapid Reload
 9        : Precise Shot
10 Rogue  : Improved Evasion
12        : Improved Critical: Ranged
13 Rogue  : Opportunist
15        : Improved Precise Shot
16 Rogue  : Crippling Strike OR Skill Mastery
18        : Precision
19 Rogue  : Defensive Roll OR Skill Mastery
21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic   : Improved Sneak Attack
26 Destiny: Holy Strike OR Pierce Damage Reduction: Cold Iron
27 Epic   : Combat Archery
28 Destiny: Doubleshot
29 Destiny: Embodiment of Law OR Deific Warding
30 Epic   : Blinding Speed OR Epic Damage Reduction OR Insightful Reflexes
30 Legend : Scion of: Ethereal Plane


Enhancements (80 AP)

Mechanic (44 AP)

Arbalester, Tanglefoot, Targeting Sights, Improved Detection, Expert Builder, Hip Flask
Sharpshooter, Thunderstone III
Sharpshooter, Improved Traps III, Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Sharpshooter, Wracking Shot I, Ooze Flask III
Sharpshooter, Fletching III, Leg Shot
Sharpshooter, Rapid Fire III, Time Bomb III, Sniper, Mechanical Reloader

Assassin (25 AP)

Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back, Assassin's Trick
Sneak Attack Training, Stealthy III
Venomed Blades III, Sneak Attack Training, Damage Boost III
Sneak Attack Training, Intelligence
Killer III, Sneak Attack Training

Shadar-kai (8 AP)

Shadar-kai Grit, Intelligence, Shadow Phase, Shadow Jaunt
(none)
Guile

Thief-Acrobat (3 AP)

Staff Control
Fast Movement

Leveling Guide

TA0 Staff Control; TA1 Fast Movement; Mec0 Arbalester
Mec1 Sharpshooter; Mec1 Thunderstone I, II
Mec1 Thunderstone III; Mec0 Tanglefoot; Mec2 Sharpshooter
Mec2 Improved Traps I, II, III
Mec3 Sharpshooter; Mec3 Ooze Flask I, II, III
Mec0 Targeting Sights; Mec2 Wand and Scroll Mastery I, II, III
Mec4 Sharpshooter; Mec4 Fletching I, II
Mec4 Fletching III; Mec4 Leg Shot; Mec3 Wracking Shot I
Ass0 Knife in the Darkness; Ass1 Sneak Attack Training; Ass1 Stealthy I
Ass1 Stealthy II, III; Ass0 Dagger in the Back; Ass2 Damage Boost I
Ass2 Damage Boost II, III; Ass2 Sneak Attack Training
Mec0 Improved Detection; Mec5 Sharpshooter; Mec5 Rapid Fire I
Mec5 Rapid Fire II, III; Mec5 Sniper
Mec5 Mechanical Reloader; Mec5 Time Bomb I, II
Mec5 Time Bomb III; Ass0 Assassin's Trick; Ass2 Venomed Blades I, II
Ass2 Venomed Blades III; Ass3 Sneak Attack Training
Ass3 Intelligence; Ass4 Killer I, II, III
Mec0 Expert Builder; Ass4 Sneak Attack Training; SK0 Shadar-kai Grit
SK0 Intelligence; SK0 Shadow Phase
Mec0 Hip Flask; SK2 Guile; SK0 Shadow Jaunt


Destiny (24 AP)

Legendary Dreadnought

Extra Action Boost III, Constitution
Damage Boost III, Constitution
Critical Damage III, Haste Boost III
(none)
Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
Master's Blitz, Pulverizer

Twists of Fate (14 fate points)

Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
Pin (Tier 2 Shiradi)
Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)

i played this build on a 2nd life toon and loved it, any chance i could get a hand on updating it for a completionest toon, ie any recomended spot to put the extra stats btw i have +7 str +4 dex +4 con +5 int +4 wis and +5 cha tomes if that makes a difference.

**unbongwah** · 09-20-2016, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by padith22

i played this build on a 2nd life toon and loved it, any chance i could get a hand on updating it for a completionest toon, ie any recomended spot to put the extra stats btw i have +7 str +4 dex +4 con +5 int +4 wis and +5 cha tomes if that makes a difference.

Well, you can start by lowering base DEX to 17 which would let you bump CON to 16. Do what you want with the leftover pts. EDIT: and put all your lvl-ups into INT, ofc.

If you want to stay pure Mechanic, I wouldn't change the feats; there's not really anything you can drop for Completionist which wouldn't be a net DPS loss, unfortunately. Except Blinding Speed if you plan to use great xbows, since it doesn't stack w/Mechanical Reloader's +30% speed bonus; although in that case I might prefer Epic DR.

**padith22** · 09-20-2016, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by unbongwah

Well, you can start by lowering base DEX to 17 which would let you bump CON to 16. Do what you want with the leftover pts.

If you want to stay pure Mechanic, I wouldn't change the feats; there's not really anything you can drop for Completionist which wouldn't be a net DPS loss, unfortunately. Except Blinding Speed if you plan to use great xbows, since it doesn't stack w/Mechanical Reloader's +30% speed bonus; although in that case I might prefer Epic DR.

Ok thanks I really appreciate the help. i have a wide verity of xbows and repeaters to choose from but will probably be mostly using greater xbows. Just one more question is it worth splashing two levels of arti for rune arm and free bolt spell vrs pure?

**unbongwah** · 09-21-2016, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by padith22

Just one more question is it worth splashing two levels of arti for rune arm and free bolt spell vrs pure?

Pros: free feat (Rapid Reload), runearms, Magical Training (powers Know the Angles & ED abilities, if you have any), lvl 1 spells
Cons: give up Mechanic capstone, delays IPS until lvl 18 (BAB is too low @ 15) [EDIT: unless you lvl 1-15 rog, 1-2 arty, 16-18 rog - then you can take IPS @ 15 and delay runearms until lvl 17.]

It's basically a wash either way, IMO, so do what you want. Either is gonna be plenty of DPS.

**Stoner81** · 09-26-2016, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by unbongwah

Pros: free feat (Rapid Reload), runearms, Magical Training (powers Know the Angles & ED abilities, if you have any), lvl 1 spells
Cons: give up Mechanic capstone, delays IPS until lvl 18 (BAB is too low @ 15) [EDIT: unless you lvl 1-15 rog, 1-2 arty, 16-18 rog - then you can take IPS @ 15 and delay runearms until lvl 17.]

It's basically a wash either way, IMO, so do what you want. Either is gonna be plenty of DPS.

The free feat means you can then have the Completionist feat if available to you which is very nice, I ran a 18/2 Rogue/Arti split last life and it was crazy DPS. As for bolts grab Fletching from the Mechanic tree and use Flame Bolt scrolls for an extra 1D6 per bolt Fire damage. I can 5 or 6 of them when I log in and that generally lasts me an entire play session of a few hours.

Stoner81.

**NaturalHazard** · 10-06-2016, 02:22 AM

tried the first life BF KOTC 2hf pally on some favor runs it was fun, did some at level elites some over level too, some solo, pretty strong, be a good character for new players especially if they like melee.

**unbongwah** · 10-23-2016, 05:16 PM

Added a druid 15 / rogue 5 build to the SDK section: DEX-based TWF Assassin (daggers ofc) in fire elemental form for flavor and synergies with Crusader / Arcane Warrior...but mostly flavor.

Converting to Acrobat using staves is left as an exercise to players.

**QuantumFX** · 10-25-2016, 08:00 PM

You may want to update your Paladin builds for Purple Dragon Knight. Followers of Helm get free Bastard Sword Proficiency and Silvanus paladins actually make a maul build viable.

**Arktanis** · 12-06-2016, 11:32 AM

A great PDK build is also a Fighter Warchanter. Personally I like this one more due to my playstyle: Can use Shortswords or Longswords with a small shield to retain Evasion bonus and Light armor. Can also switch the rogue levels if you want to wear medium armor, Barbarian 1 and some rearranging nets you Ear Smash which is another CC. Only need is a +stunning item.

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Level 20 Chaotic Good Purple Dragon Knight Male
(6 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 12 Bard) 
Hit Points: 258
Spell Points: 430 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 17
Will: 15

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength              8                     8
Dexterity            14                    18
Constitution         14                    15
Intelligence         12                    13
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             18                    20

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1 \par 
                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               0                     4
Bluff                 0                     5
Concentration         0                     2
Diplomacy             0                     5
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                     5
Heal                  0                    -1
Hide                  0                     4
Intimidate            0                     5
Jump                  0                    -1
Listen                0                    -1
Move Silently         0                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     1
Spellcraft            0                     1
Spot                  0                    -1
Swim                  0                    -1
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
Feat: (Human Bonus) Mobility


Level 2 (Rogue)


Level 3 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 4 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shield Mastery


Level 5 (Fighter)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Power Critical


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Bard)


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Whirlwind Attack


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 17 (Bard)


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Bash


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Versatility: Defense Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Cormyrean Knight Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Skaldic Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Song of Heroism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Fighting Spirit (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Arcane Shield Chant (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Arcane Shield Chant (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Arcane Shield Chant (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Reckless Chant (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Reckless Chant (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Reckless Chant (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Expeditious Chant (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Expeditious Chant (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Expeditious Chant (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Chant of Power (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Chant of Power (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Chant of Power (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Howl of the North (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Spiritual Bond (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike With No Thought (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Reed in the Wind (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Reed in the Wind (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Stalwart Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Stalwart Defensive Mastery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - To the Fore! (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - No Weakness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Smash (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Smash (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Smash (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Follow Up (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Follow Up (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Follow Up (Rank 3)

**NaturalHazard** · 12-08-2016, 04:56 PM

Just a bump for meatball ran into him on khyber, and suggested he check out this thread and the forums for build ideas.

**LewsTherin10** · 02-09-2017, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by unbongwah

PDK Vanguard: Turbine finally got around to buffing fighters in U31, so let's add a proper S&B tank at long last.

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PDK Vanguard
Fighter 20
Chaotic Good Purple Dragon Knight


Stats
               28pt     32pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     ----     --------
Strength        16       16       +2       4: STR
Dexterity       12       12       +1       8: STR
Constitution    16       16       +5      12: STR
Intelligence    12       12       +1      16: STR
Wisdom           8        8               20: STR
Charisma         8       12               24: STR
                                          28: STR

Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Intim     3  2     2     2     2     2     2     2     2     2     2  23
Heal      1  1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1  11
Balance   2     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     11
UMD       2     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     11
Jump      1                                                            1
Tumble    1                                                            1
         ------------------------------------------------------------
         16  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4


Feats

 1        : Shield Mastery
 1 PDK    : Power Attack
 1 Fighter: Cleave
 2 Fighter: Two Handed Fighting
 3        : Exotic Weapon: Bastard Sword
 4 Fighter: Great Cleave
 6        : Stunning Blow
 6 Fighter: Improved Two Handed Fighting
 8 Fighter: Improved Shield Mastery
 9        : Improved Critical: Slashing
10 Fighter: Improved Shield Bash
12        : Tactical Mastery OR Improved Sunder
12 Fighter: Greater Two Handed Fighting
14 Fighter: Heavy Armor Champion
15        : Toughness
16 Fighter: Tactical Supremacy
18        : Improved Trip OR Magical Training
18 Fighter: Combat Expertise
20 Fighter: Precision
21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic   : Bulwark of Defense
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
27 Epic   : Blinding Speed
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting OR Elusive Target
29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Embodiment of Law
30 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
30 Swap   : Epic Toughness replaces Bulwark of Defense
30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea OR Feywild OR Plane of Earth


Enhancements (80 AP)

Vanguard (41 AP)

To the Fore!, Shield Combat I, Vicious Shield I, Shield Combat II, Vicious Shield II, Shield Champion
Shield Specialization, Shield Smash III
Shield Specialization, Brutality III, Stunning Shield III, Missile Shield III
Shield Specialization, Follow Up III, Fatal Bulwark, Shield Riposte III
(none)
Shield to the Face, Disorienting Smash II, Shield Charge III, Armored Strength

Kensei (23 AP)

Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought, Power Surge
Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Exotic Weapon Mastery, Haste Boost III
Ascetic Training: Conditioning III
Shattering Strike I
Strike at the Heart

Stalwart Defender (13 AP)

Toughness, Stalwart Defense
Item Defense I, Durable Defense III
Resilient Defense III, Instinctive Defense I
Tenacious Defense III

Purple Dragon Knight (3 AP)

Damage Boost
Improved Recovery

Leveling Guide

PDK0 Damage Boost; PDK1 Improved Recovery; Van0 To the Fore!
Van1 Shield Specialization; Van1 Shield Smash I, II
Van1 Shield Smash III; Van0 Shield Combat I; Van2 Stunning Shield I, II
Van2 Stunning Shield III; Van3 Fatal Bulwark; Van3 Follow Up I
Van3 Follow Up II, III; Van2 Shield Specialization
Van0 Vicious Shield I; Van3 Shield Specialization; Van2 Missile Shield I
Van2 Missile Shield II, III; Van3 Shield Riposte I, II
Van3 Shield Riposte III; Van2 Brutality I, II, III
SD0 Toughness; SD1 Durable Defense I, II, III
SD1 Item Defense I; SD0 Stalwart Defense; Ken0 Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades
Ken1 Exotic Weapon Mastery; Ken1 Weapon Group Specialization; Ken0 Spiritual Bond
Ken1 Haste Boost I, II, III; Ken2 Ascetic Training: Conditioning I
Ken0 Strike with No Thought; Van0 Shield Combat II; Van5 Shield to the Face
Van5 Armored Strength; Van5 Disorienting Smash I, II
Van5 Shield Charge I, II, III; SD2 Resilient Defense I
SD2 Resilient Defense II, III; SD2 Instinctive Defense I; SD3 Tenacious Defense I
SD3 Tenacious Defense II, III; Ken2 Ascetic Training: Conditioning II, III
Van0 Vicious Shield II; Ken3 Shattering Strike I; Ken1 Extra Action Boost I
Ken1 Extra Action Boost II, III
Van0 Shield Champion; Ken0 Power Surge; Ken4 Strike at the Heart


Destiny (24 AP)

Divine Crusader

Bane of Undeath, Interrogation, Purge the Wicked, Strength
Consecration III
Sacred Ground, Empyrean Magic, Blessed Blades
No Regret, Crusade
Castigation, Celestial Champion
Strike Down

Twists of Fate (15 fate points)

Legendary Shield Mastery (Tier 2 Sentinel)
Momentum Swing OR Improved Combat Expertise (Tier 2 Dreadnought)
Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
Brace for Impact (Tier 1 Sentinel)

You have a lot of flexibility with feats; I tried to find a good compromise between DPS, tactics, and survivability. Likewise with EDs: I think Div Crusader offers the best tradeoff between DPS and healing for a tank; but Dreadnought and Sentinel are viable alternatives, depending on whether you wish to boost DPS or tankability more. The +2 and +5 tomes are from Favor; the +1s are from loot drops or bought from Auction House. I designed this to use PDK starter gear, including the longsword until you obtain a bastard sword, like Charoush, First Blood, or Retribution. I went CG for Blessed Blades' alignment bypass; plus just to be different from paladins.

PD Kensei variant: Based on conversations in this thread and elsewhere, I've been wondering about S&B ftrs who go for T5 Kensei + capstone, rather than Vanguard. Downside is you give up the extra atk speed & shield bashes from higher-lvl VG abilities; upsides are a big boost to Melee Power, +1 crit range, up to +14 dmg from feats & Weapon Master, One Cut's clickie, extra action boosts, and higher doublestrike (which basically offsets the lost atk speed). I'm pretty sure this build has higher AoE DPS and might even have higher single-target DPS, at least under certain circumstances. The only downsides so far are losing the free stun attempts on shield bashes and needing to invest feats into the Weapon Focus / Spec line if you want to Weapon Master.

I'm only going to list the parts which are different from the build above, namely the feats & Enhancements.

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PDK Kensei VG
Fighter 20
Chaotic Good Purple Dragon Knight

Feats

 1        : Shield Mastery
 1 PDK    : Power Attack
 1 Fighter: Cleave
 2 Fighter: Two Handed Fighting
 3        : Exotic Weapon: Bastard Sword
 4 Fighter: Great Cleave
 6        : Stunning Blow
 6 Fighter: Improved Two Handed Fighting
 8 Fighter: Improved Shield Mastery
 9        : Improved Critical: Slashing
10 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Slashing
12        : Weapon Specialization: Slashing
12 Fighter: Greater Two Handed Fighting
14 Fighter: Heavy Armor Champion OR Improved Shield Bash
15        : Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing
16 Fighter: Tactical Supremacy
18        : Toughness
18 Fighter: Combat Expertise
20 Fighter: Precision
21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic   : Bulwark of Defense
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
27 Epic   : Blinding Speed
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting OR Elusive Target
29 Destiny: Dire Charge
30 Epic   : Heavy Armor Master OR Tactical Mastery
30 Swap   : Epic Toughness replaces Bulwark of Defense
30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea OR Feywild OR Plane of Earth

Enhancements (80 AP)

Kensei (41 AP)

Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought, Power Surge, One Cut, Alacrity

Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Exotic Weapon Mastery, Haste Boost III
Weapon Group Specialization, Ascetic Training: Conditioning II
Weapon Group Specialization, Shattering Strike III, Strength
Weapon Group Specialization, Strike at the Heart, Strength
A Good Death: Melee, Weapon Master, One with the Blade, Deadly Strike, Keen Edge

Vanguard (22 AP)

To the Fore!, Shield Combat I, Vicious Shield I, Shield Combat II

Shield Specialization, Shield Smash III
Brutality III, Stunning Shield I, Missile Shield III
Follow Up III, Fatal Bulwark
Shield Charge I

Stalwart Defender (14 AP)

Toughness, Stalwart Defense, Overbalance

Item Defense I, Durable Defense III
Resilient Defense III, Instinctive Defense I
Tenacious Defense III

Purple Dragon Knight (3 AP)

Damage Boost

Improved Recovery

Leveling Guide

PDK0 Damage Boost; Ken0 Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades; Ken1 Weapon Group Specialization
Ken1 Exotic Weapon Mastery; Ken1 Haste Boost I, II
Ken1 Haste Boost III; Ken0 Spiritual Bond; Ken1 Extra Action Boost I
Ken1 Extra Action Boost II, III
Ken3 Strength; Ken3 Shattering Strike I, II
Ken3 Shattering Strike III; Ken0 Strike with No Thought; Ken2 Ascetic Training: Conditioning I, II
Ken4 Strike at the Heart; Ken4 Strength
Van0 To the Fore!; Van1 Shield Specialization; Van1 Shield Smash I
Van1 Shield Smash II, III; Van0 Shield Combat I; Van2 Stunning Shield I
Van2 Brutality I, II, III; Van0 Vicious Shield I
SD0 Toughness; SD1 Durable Defense I, II, III
SD1 Item Defense I; SD0 Stalwart Defense; Ken0 Power Surge
Ken2 Weapon Group Specialization; Ken5 One with the Blade; Ken5 Keen Edge
Van3 Fatal Bulwark; Van3 Follow Up I, II, III
Van2 Missile Shield I, II, III; Van0 Shield Combat II
Van4 Shield Charge I; Ken3 Weapon Group Specialization
Ken4 Weapon Group Specialization; Ken5 Weapon Master; Ken5 A Good Death: Melee; Ken5 Deadly Strike
Ken0 One Cut; SD2 Resilient Defense I, II, III
SD2 Instinctive Defense I; SD3 Tenacious Defense I, II, III
Ken0 Alacrity; SD0 Overbalance; PDK1 Improved Recovery

PD Kensei Knight: Inspired by this thread, this build takes advantage of the recent buffs to Kensei to revive the ftr / pal hybrid. This is a SWF build designed to use khopeshes, but this build can play right out of the gate; use the default PDK longsword until you can farm something better, like a water khopesh or Bleeding Edge. You will eventually need a +6 WIS item, but not until lvl 20 when you take Zeal.

Code:

PD Kensei Knight
14/6 Paladin/Fighter
Lawful Good Purple Dragon Knight


Level Order

1. Fighter         6. Fighter        11. Paladin        16. Paladin
2. Fighter         7. Paladin        12. Paladin        17. Paladin
3. Fighter         8. Paladin        13. Paladin        18. Paladin
4. Fighter         9. Paladin        14. Paladin        19. Paladin
5. Fighter        10. Paladin        15. Paladin        20. Paladin


Stats
               28pt     32pt     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength        16       16       4: STR
Dexterity        8        8       8: STR
Constitution    14       16      12: STR
Intelligence    10       10      16: STR
Wisdom           8        8      20: STR
Charisma        16       16      24: STR
                                 28: STR

Skills
          F  F  F  F  F  F  P  P  P  P  P  P  P  P  P  P  P  P  P  P
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Intim     4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
UMD       1  1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1  11
Heal                                          2     2     2     2      8
Balance   2     1     1     1     1     1                              7
Tumble    1                                                            1
         ------------------------------------------------------------
         12  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3


Feats

 1        : Single Weapon Fighting
 1 PDK    : Exotic Weapon: Khopesh
 1 Fighter: Power Attack
 2 Fighter: Cleave
 3        : Weapon Focus: Slashing
 4 Fighter: Great Cleave
 6        : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
 6 Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Slashing
 7 Deity  : Follower of: Amaunator
 9        : Improved Critical: Slashing
12        : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
12 Deity  : Amaunator's Brilliance
15        : Stunning Blow
18        : Quicken Spell
21 Epic   : Empower Healing Spell
24 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic   : Blinding Speed
28 Destiny: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting OR Elusive Target
29 Destiny: Dire Charge
30 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea


Enhancements (80 AP)

Kensei (32 AP)

Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought
Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Exotic Weapon Mastery, Haste Boost III
Tactics I, Weapon Group Specialization
Weapon Group Specialization, Shattering Strike II, Strength
Strike at the Heart, Strength
One with the Blade, Keen Edge

Sacred Defender (24 AP)

Holy Bastion, Sacred Defense
Extra Lay On Hands III, Durable Defense III
Bulwark Aura III, Resilient Defense III
Resistance Aura III, Tenacious Defense III
Swift Defense, Strong Defense III

Knight of the Chalice (23 AP)

Slayer of Evil, Courage of Heaven, Slayer of Evil II, Improved Courage of Heaven
Extra Turning II, Extra Smite II
Divine Might III, Exalted Cleave III
Divine Sacrifice II, Exalted Smite I
Empowered Smite

Purple Dragon Knight (1 AP)

Damage Boost

Leveling Guide

PDK0 Damage Boost; Ken0 Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades; Ken1 Weapon Group Specialization
Ken1 Exotic Weapon Mastery; Ken1 Haste Boost I, II
Ken1 Haste Boost III; Ken0 Spiritual Bond; Ken2 Weapon Group Specialization
Ken1 Extra Action Boost I, II
Ken1 Extra Action Boost III; Ken3 Strength
Ken0 Strike with No Thought; Ken3 Weapon Group Specialization
Ken4 Strike at the Heart; Ken4 Strength; Ken3 Shattering Strike I
Ken3 Shattering Strike II; Ken2 Tactics I; SaD0 Holy Bastion
SaD1 Extra Lay On Hands I, II, III; SaD1 Durable Defense I
SaD0 Sacred Defense; SaD1 Durable Defense II, III; SaD2 Resilient Defense I
SaD2 Resilient Defense II; SaD3 Tenacious Defense I, II, III
Ken5 One with the Blade; Ken5 Keen Edge; KoC0 Slayer of Evil; KoC1 Extra Smite I
KoC1 Extra Smite II; KoC1 Extra Turning I, II
KoC2 Divine Might I, II
KoC2 Divine Might III; KoC2 Exalted Cleave I, II, III
KoC0 Courage of Heaven; KoC0 Slayer of Evil II; KoC3 Exalted Smite I
KoC3 Divine Sacrifice I, II; KoC4 Empowered Smite
KoC0 Improved Courage of Heaven; SaD2 Resilient Defense III; SaD2 Bulwark Aura I, II
SaD2 Bulwark Aura III; SaD3 Resistance Aura I, II, III
SaD4 Swift Defense; SaD4 Strong Defense I, II, III


Destiny (24 AP)

Legendary Dreadnought

Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III, Strength
Momentum Swing III, Imp. Power Attack, Strength
Lay Waste
Volcano's Edge
Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
Master's Blitz

Twists of Fate (18 fate points)

Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
Endless Lay On Hands (Tier 3 Sentinel)
Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)

Returning player hear with a question about the feats. Why take power attack, precision, and combat expertise when you can only have one active? Is it just situational? In what situations would yous switch?

**unbongwah** · 02-09-2017, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by LewsTherin10

Why take power attack, precision, and combat expertise when you can only have one active? Is it just situational? In what situations would yous switch?

Power Attack is necessary to unlock the Cleave feats; it also needs to be active to use Momentum Swing + Lay Waste in Dreadnought. Precision is for 25% Fortification bypass which is helpful for certain boss fights or against constructs, undead, etc. Combat Expertise is for the AC and PRR in epics when you need the extra defenses.

Basically having all three feats gives maximum flexibility, particularly in epics, and having the feats to spare is one of the advantages of ftr vs pally tanks.

**pappo** · 06-19-2017, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by unbongwah

Implosioneer - this variant invests heavily into Spell Penetration in order to boost its chances of landing Implosion on high-SR mobs (hence the name): +8 from feats, +3 from elven Arcanum, +3 from DiDi, +3 from Exalted Angel, and +3 from Piercing Spellcraft twist for +20 Spell Pen total. [Boosting Spell Pen also helps with Necro spells and Gtr Command if you use them too.] It's a little more of a specialized / flavor build, IMO, but it still has strong caster DPS. Not bothering to list all the optional feats or leveling guide this time.

Code:

Implosioneer
Cleric 20
True Neutral Morninglord


Stats
               28pt     32pt     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength         8        8       4: WIS
Dexterity        8        8       8: WIS
Constitution    12       14      12: WIS
Intelligence    16       16      16: WIS
Wisdom          18       18      20: WIS
Charisma         8        8      24: WIS
                                 28: WIS

Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Concent   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Heal      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Spellcr   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Balance   1  1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1  11
UMD       2     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     11
Tumble    1                                                            1
         ------------------------------------------------------------
         20  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5  5


Feats

 1        : Maximize Spell
 1 Deity  : Follower of: Amaunator
 3        : Empower Spell
 6        : Quicken Spell
 6 Deity  : Amaunator's Brilliance
 9        : Heighten Spell
12        : Spell Focus: Evocation
15        : Spell Penetration
18        : Greater Spell Penetration
21 Epic   : Epic Spell Penetration
24 Epic   : Master of: Light
26 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Light
27 Epic   : Ruin
28 Destiny: Mass Frog
29 Destiny: Arcane Pulse
30 Epic   : Greater Ruin
30 Legend : Scion of: Celestia


Enhancements (80 AP)

Divine Disciple (46 AP)

Emissary: Light, Sacred Defense, Sun Bolt, Sunbeam, Sunburst, Transcend: Light
Nimbus of Light III, Spellpower: Light III, Spell Critical: Light
Spell Penetration III, Spell Critical: Light
Searing Light III, Spellpower: Light III, Spell Critical: Light, Wisdom
Holy Smite III, Evocation DC, Spell Critical: Light
Flame Strike III, Light Spellpower, Divine Empowerment

Morninglord (23 AP)

Elven Accuracy
Rejuvenation of Dawn II
Arcanum III
Light of the Sun God III
Amaunator's Brilliance III, Aura of Radiance III

Radiant Servant (11 AP)

Healing Domain, Pacifism, Positive Energy Burst
Extra Turning II, Wand Mastery III, Altruism III


Destiny

Twists of Fate (22 fate points)

Empyrean Magic (Tier 3 Crusader)
Piercing Spellcraft (Tier 3 Magister)
School Specialist: Evocation (Tier 2 Magister)

Can you post what the Implosioneer's spell list would look like, and what would the spell rotation be for mobs and end bosses ?

**kendo** · 12-25-2017, 06:59 AM

may just be missing it but not seeing a list of spells for the gnome wizard build.

any other major updates to your builds with the new content?

really enjoy reading all your builds and appreciate all the effort you put into the forums, thank you

**unbongwah** · 12-25-2017, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by kendo

may just be missing it but not seeing a list of spells for the gnome wizard build.

That is because (A) wizards can inscribe every available scroll so your leveling choices don't matter that much (usually I focus on spells which can't be bought from vendors), (B) because you can change spells at taverns / shrines, you will respec your available spells based on content you run (unlike sorcs, who have to pick their spells more carefully to match their Savants), and (C) I'm lazy when it comes to stuff I don't enjoy like compiling gear lists or picking best spells.

any other major updates to your builds with the new content?

I don't have Ravenloft yet so a big "No Comment" there. I mean I presume you wanna load up on anti-undead abilities etc. and maybe this isn't the best time to be playing an Illusionist wizard (undead are immune to PK, IIRC) and for the ML I'd probably pick Sun or Fire domain; but otherwise not really.

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