Decent hp for a caster

[Hobgoblin]

This is more of a theory then an actual build

I was trying to calculate the max hp a sorc could get.

Will do 2 builds/one max hp, nothing else and one playable

I picked human for the playable build.

not doing all the other feats as this is just for hp totals.

con
18 base
+15 item
+5 rage
+7 insight
+2 guild
+4 tensors
+6 ed
+6 twist
+7 tome
+2 bard
+2 yugo pot
+2 completionist
+6 bloodrage
+2 profane
=82=+36 mod

so 80 base sorc
20 feat
10 gh favor
10800 con mod
100 epic levels
32 toughness feat
50 epic toughness feat
barb past lives - 30 hp
+20 yugo pot
+45 epl
+40 vitality (pgis)
+200 hp from us core
+50 false life
= 1757 before stance
+20% hp from stance

=2108


ok for the totally not playable but would be fun to see.........


dwarf/wf/bf/
con

20 base
+7 levels
+2 enhancments
+2 sorc ehncmnts
+15 item
+5 rage
+7 insight
+2 guild
+4 tensors
+6 ed
+6 twist
+7 tome
+2 bard
+2 yugo pot
+2 completionist
+6 bloodrage
+2 profane
=95=+42 mod

so 80 base sorc
20 feat
10 gh favor
1260 con mod
100 epic levels
32 toughness feat
29 toughness feat x6 =174 (not sure you get the +3 each time so trying to err on side of caution)
50 epic toughness feat
barb past lives - 30 hp
+20 yugo pot
+45 epl
+40 vitality (pgis)
+200 hp from us core
+50 false life
+30 hp enhancments
= 1941before stance
+20% hp from stance
+4% if dwarf
=2329!!!
=2422 if dwarf



just as a note - you can triple madstone for 144ish more hp.

i didnt include cookies as they seem to be broken.

i think the % is right, was not sure how it stacked.

i saw a post in barb build for con and someone showed 130 con so im sure im missing things.

right now in this build i seem to be hitting 107 con

again, im not saying this build is viable, but was fun to consider!

[Kriogen]

I stoped reading at

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+4 tensors
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[unbongwah]

+5 rage

Is this Primal Scream? Technically it's a morale bonus.

i saw a post in barb build for con and someone showed 130 con so im sure im missing things.

Pure barb has at least +17 CON you can't get on pure sorc: +10 Mighty Rage + 3 Hardy Rage + 4 capstone. Can goose a few more pts from barb CON enhs too.

[Hobgoblin]

I stoped reading at

why?

tensors no longer stops you from casting.

it gives you a bonus that stacks with most things

[Hobgoblin]

Is this Primal Scream? Technically it's a morale bonus.

Pure barb has at least +17 CON you can't get on pure sorc: +10 Mighty Rage + 3 Hardy Rage + 4 capstone. Can goose a few more pts from barb CON enhs too.

ya it was primal scream. I thought it was rage bonus, posted this then was in game and cast rage and saw the type lol

[unbongwah]

tensors no longer stops you from casting

Tensors doubles your spell cooldowns, though I don't think that applies to SLAs. Still, it's not something the average caster will use. But since you said this was theorycrafting hypothetical max HPs, I kept reading anyway.

ya it was primal scream. I thought it was rage bonus, posted this then was in game and cast rage and saw the type lol

Rage spell and Primal Scream are both morale bonuses; so they won't stack with each other, but they will stack with barb Rage.

[C-Dog]

This is more of a theory then an actual build

I was trying to calculate the max hp a sorc could get.

And so added a totally misleading subject line. Thx for that.

But OT for the subject - what is ""Decent" HP for a caster"?

I ask b/c it's just come up in another thread:
o https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...20#post5777520

(Feel free to respond there, those who know more than I do, thx!)

[Qezuzu]

And so added a totally misleading subject line. Thx for that.

But OT for the subject - what is ""Decent" HP for a caster"?

I ask b/c it's just come up in another thread:
o https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...20#post5777520

(Feel free to respond there, those who know more than I do, thx!)

Same as melees. ~1k HP, ~~~100 PRR, as much dodge as you can get. But you're at range and have AoE CC abilities, you don't need to pump HP.