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    Default Maze's SneakATank (Dex) Assassin Build. U29

    Hey guys, I finally decided to post this build I've been playing for quite a few years here and there. The build itself is done, but quite reliant on gear. At the moment, especially with the new loot system it's kinda bonkers on trying to get weirdly specific things for certain slots. Like, my glove slot is +6 assassinate/+2 insightful assassinate for instance. I'm working on replacing quite a bit of gear as I come across it.

    What this build is....
    • .....is a brute rogue build. Like the old max dps strength builds use to be; Cleave and whatnot.
    • Assassinate is definitely used since I went Scion of the Astral Plane, but after the first couple assassinates on a group I tend to gather them around me, dire charge, and cleave them down.
    • It has the capabilities to be a spot healer with select items like my TF rapier below.
    • AC is not this build's strong suit. I lost my ability to care about it quite a long time ago. It requires more into the dodge/not getting hit tactics. This also encompasses actually avoiding attacks via twitching.
    • This build could probably be tweaked a bit to go more the sneaky route and whatnot if that's what you want.
    • Definitely a Critical/Doublestrike based build.



    This build is a pure 20 halfing rogue for the extra dex. [No, I didn't take the dragonmark, (not enough enhancement points nor feats)]

    Feel free to make any critiques guys.

    NOTE: All of my statistics will include ship buffs and no other temp buffs


    Starting Stats:
    Strength: 13
    Dexterity: 20 (Halfling)
    Constitution: 14 (I make it a rule never to have less than 14)
    Intelligence: 14
    Wisdom: 8
    Charisma: 8


    Feats:
    1. Power Attack
    3. Cleave
    6. Great Cleave (Switch out for Completionist at 20)
    9. Two Weapon Fighting
    10. Improved Evasion - Rogue Bonus Feat
    12. Improved Critical Piercing - Switch to Slashing eventually.
    13. Opportunist - Rogue Bonus Feat
    15. Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    16. Defensive Roll - Rogue Bonus Feat
    18. Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    19. Slippery Mind - Rogue Bonus Feat
    21. Overwhelming Critical
    24. Improved Sneak Attack
    26. Perfect Two Weapon Fighting - Epic Destiny Feat
    27. Watchful Eye
    28. Tactician - Epic Destiny Feat
    29. Dire Charge - Epic Destiny Feat
    30. Great Dexterity - Or Blinding Speed (Depending on gear) - Or Active Rogue Past Life for more damage
    30. [Scion of the Astral Plane | For Assassinate DC] or [Scion of the Ethereal Plane | For Pure Damage] - Legendary Feat



    Skills with Current Gear Loadout

    Balance: 56
    Bluff: 85
    Concentration: 54
    Diplomacy: 57
    Disable Device: 84
    Haggle: 61
    Heal: 38
    Hide: 117
    Intimidate: 37
    Jump: 42
    Listen: 37
    Move Silently: 115
    Open Lock: 99
    Perform: 56
    Repair: 42
    Search: 82
    Spellcraft: 41
    Spot: 78
    Swim:59 (Most Important Skill)
    Tumble: 79
    UMD: 63



    General Stats/Assassinate DC with Current Gear Loadout

    Strength: 31
    Dexterity: 66 (All Level Up's into Dex)
    Constitution: 35
    Intelligence: 34
    Wisdom: 30
    Charisma: 26

    -All +5 Tomes

    Assassinate DC: 10 + 20 (Rogue Level) + 28 (Dex Mod) + 6 (Twist) + 9 (Item) +2 (Capstone) +4 (Scion of the Astral Plane) = 79. 84 with Measure the Foe

    HP: 860 (Slightly Low, but I don't have some of the gear I should have for this)
    SP: 440
    AC: 80

    Fortitude Save: 48
    Reflex Save: 78
    Will Save: 45

    Sitting Doublestrike 35% (Can easily get over 100 and stay over 50% for the entire quest)
    Sitting Melee Power 61
    Fortification 185%

    PRR/MRR: 60/50



    Main Destiny: Divine Crusader

    - Just Cause, Aura of Purification, Extraordinary Virtue, No Remorse, Sword of Justice, Zeal of the Righteous.
    1. Bane of Undeath (1/1), Endless Turning (1/3), Interrogation (1/1), Purge the Wicked (1/1)
    2. Consecration (3/3)
    3. Sacred Ground (1/1), Blessed Blades (1/1)
    4. No Regret (1/1), Crusade (1/1)
    5. Castigation (1/1), Heavenly Presence (1/1), Celestial Champion (1/1)
    6. Strike Down (1/1)

    Twists

    Sense Weakness (3/3)
    Momentum Swing (3/3)
    Stealthy (3/3)
    Rejuvenation Cocoon (3/3)

    Enhancements

    Assassin (44 AP)

    - Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back, Assassin's Trick, Nimbleness, Lethality, Deadly Shadow
    1. Heartseeker Poison (1/1), Shiv (3/3), Sneak Attack Training (1/1), Stealthy (3/3)
    2. Venomed Blades (2/3), Sneak Attack Training (1/1)
    3. Critical Mastery (3/3), Sneak Attack Training (1/1), Dexterity (1/1)
    4.Execute (1/1), Killer (3/3), Sneak Attack Training (1/1), Dexterity (1/1)
    5. Assassinate (1/1), Measure the Foe (3/3), Deadly Strikes (1/1), Knife Specialization (1/1)

    Thief-Acrobat (28 AP)

    - Staff Control, Stick Fighting, Tumbler
    1. Charming (1/3), Sly Flourish (3/3), Fast Movement (1/1) ---> Rogue Speed Fo Sho
    2. Haste Boost (3/3)
    3. Shadow Dodge (3/3), Dexterity (1/1)
    4. Dexterity (1/1), No Mercy (3/3), Improved Defensive Roll (3/3)

    Harper Agent (8 AP)

    - Agent of Good I
    1. Traveler's Toughness (1/3), Awareness (3/3)
    2. Know the Angles (3/3)


    Gear I Currently Use

    Weapons: 2 TF Kukri with a Meteoric Star Ruby in each. 1st Degree Burns/Dragon's Edge/Mortal Fear - Touch of Flames/Wrath of Shadows/Mortal Fear
    HotSwap_Weapon: TF Rapier Devotion 150 | Dragon's Blessing | Dwarvencraft Healing Lore (22%) | Orange Slot - Meridian Fragment |

    Goggles: Epic Mentau's Goggles --> Seeker 10 | Exceptional Seeker 2 | Ghostly | UMD +5 | Dexterity +11 | Blue Augment | Green Augment |

    Helm: Random Gen --> Wisdom +12 | Stunning +15

    Necklace: GS Con Opp --> 15Hp/100Sp | Strength skills +4 | Charisma Skills +2 | Wisdom +6 | Diplomacy/Haggle +10 | Wiz 6 (150 Sp) |

    Trinket: Manual of Stealthy Pilfering --> Good Luck +3 | Dexterity/Intelligence Skills +6 | UMD +5 | Open Lock/DD/Spot +20 | Green Augment - Search 15 |
    HotSwapped_Trinket: Pale Lavender Ioun Stone --> Spell Absorption

    Cloak: Mysterious Cloak --> Hamp 45 Exceptional | MRR Insightful 25 | Green Augment - False Life 40 | Colorless Augment - Strength +8 |
    HotSwapped_Cloak: EE Jeweled Cloak --> Needed for Spell Absorption

    Belt: Epic Belt of Thoughtful Rememberance --> Deathblock 7 | Constitution +11 | Concentration +20 | Resistance +11 | Dodge 11 | Greater Regeneration | 2 Slots to Upgrade |

    Ring 1: EE Ring of Shadows --> Hide/Move Silently +20 | Lesser Displacement | Ghostly | Yellow Slot - Intelligence +8 |

    Ring 2: Ring of Deceit --> Voice of Deceit | Charisma +8 | Improved Deception | Yellow Slot - Draconic Soul Gem | Colorless Slot - Globe of True Imperial Blood |

    Gloves: Random Gen --> Assassinate +6 | Insightful Assassinate +2 (Seems to be coded as +3 at the moment) |

    Boots: Random Gen --> Dexterity +13 | Parrying +6 | Insightful Dexterity +6 |

    Bracers: Epic Ethereal Bracers --> Dexterity +11 | Riposte IX | Ghostly | Deadly X | Speed XIV | Feather Falling | 2 Upgradable Slots |

    Armor: Outfit of the Celestial Avenger --> +13 Enhancement Bonus | Fortification +159 | Diversion +23 | Doublestrike +17 | Sheltering +38 | Parrying +7 | Blurry | Deathblock IX | Green Augment | Yellow Augment |




    Gear That I Want For My End Build




    Clicky Items I'll have on-hand

    Epic Goggles of Time Sensing - Haste x5

    Epic Rodricks Wand - Infinity Summons for needed distraction.

    Draconic Necklace - Greater Heroism x1

    Morah's Belt - Jump x3

    Kormor's Belt - Random Clickies (Always Trying to Dance People)

    Epic Ring of Spell Storing - Major Mnemonic Aid x3

    Ring of Shield - Shield x3

    Tier 3 Heroic GS Cloak - Displacement x2

    Tier 3 Heroic GS Shuri - Stone Elemental x2

    Tier 3 Heroic GS Dagger - Displacement x2

    Epic Big top - Otto's Irresistible Dance x3



    Scrolls Usually Kept On Hand

    Teleport
    Greater Teleport
    Shadow Walk
    Heal
    Greater Invisability
    Tensers
    Greater Heroism
    Greater Resto
    Raise Dead ---I have enough UMD to use the expensive ones...but ehh.
    True Seeing




    **Edit 2/5/16

    -Added Doublestrike/Melee Power
    -Added Build Purpose
    -Made Enhancements more readable
    -Made Gear/Feats more readable
    -Added Tomes
    -Added Color for the lawls

    **Edit 6/22/16

    -Added feat choices for 30.

    **Edit 7/15/17

    -Added new gear list for final build.
    -Changed lvl 30 Feats.
    Last edited by Arkantios; 07-16-2017 at 12:56 AM.
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    Have you seen Cthru's Hassan Assassin? This is the same, save that you are in DC instead of SD and some gear differences.
    It seems very viable.
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    I think I've skimmed through his and Nokowi's builds quite a while ago just to see what they were about. Though, didn't try to take anything from them for the purpose of keeping my build stuck to my name in respect of not copying them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkantios View Post
    I think I've skimmed through his and Nokowi's builds quite a while ago just to see what they were about. Though, didn't try to take anything from them for the purpose of keeping my build stuck to my name in respect of not copying them.
    How have you found Divine Crusader in terms of its synergies with assassinate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saekee View Post
    How have you found Divine Crusader in terms of its synergies with assassinate?
    Honestly, there aren't too many synergies with assassinate itself, but it allows me not to have worry about charging into a crowd of mobs because No Remorse (core) Aoe heals for the mobs CR (affected by Hamp) when you kill it, if it has been affected by Aura of Purification.

    It's a very nice Dps boost as well. Zeal of the righteous is fantastic for melee power and the doublestrike it gives. That, plus a decent item and killer and itll pop you above 100% doublestrike for sure.
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    I was considering doing an assassin build for my current life, so I took a look through the EDs for Assassinate DC boosts (I was considering running PA for the EPL but decided against an assassin). As far as I can tell, the only ability, core or otherwise, was Shadowdancer's Stealthy (T1), unless the LD tactics boosts counts, which I doubt.

    The main downside of Divine Crusader instead of PA or SD is the lack of Dex, but I've never been a huge fan of using ED points for low-grade stat boosts. 12 points could get you +3 damage / to-hit / reflex / AC / some skills / Assassinate DC, but there are almost always better returns on your investment, especially in Divine Crusader. It also provides less MP (for sneak attacks) than LD, but I think the healing and potential burst dps are worth the trade-off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discpsycho View Post
    I was considering doing an assassin build for my current life, so I took a look through the EDs for Assassinate DC boosts (I was considering running PA for the EPL but decided against an assassin). As far as I can tell, the only ability, core or otherwise, was Shadowdancer's Stealthy (T1), unless the LD tactics boosts counts, which I doubt.

    The main downside of Divine Crusader instead of PA or SD is the lack of Dex, but I've never been a huge fan of using ED points for low-grade stat boosts. 12 points could get you +3 damage / to-hit / reflex / AC / some skills / Assassinate DC, but there are almost always better returns on your investment, especially in Divine Crusader. It also provides less MP (for sneak attacks) than LD, but I think the healing and potential burst dps are worth the trade-off.
    Yeah. Nothing that affects tactics affects assassinate dc sadly. I will fully say that I absolutely only use to run in LD. Damage out the rear, but I always lacked a bit of healing. In DC, I get a huge boost to doublestrike, amazing healing capabilities, another good cleave, alignment bypass, and 10% melee damage while in consecration. It's a fantastic trade off.
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