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    Im officially begging you to please increase the drop rates of Sigil pieces in Necro 4 ( the correct Sigil pieces). I am so tired of running Inferno 6 or 7 times every life so that I can move on and run Litany. At the very least please give a chance to have one in the end rewards.

    I have to run a Necro 4 quest 15 freaking times just to run Litany!!

    4 runs of Inferno this life ---- 3 Right Pincers and 1 center( wheres my right frame!!)
    1 run of Ghost ----1 eye ( No Left frame!!!)
    2 runs of Vol ------ 2 center frames ( No Right Wings!!)
    1 run of Flesh---- 1 left wing ( yay for me)

    So Ive run 8 of these and still dont have a complete sigil ( not even close), ill have at minimum 3 more runs for a complete sigil. And I came into this life with 5 of 8 pieces.

    Last life I had to run Inferno 8 times to get my Right Frame, Vol 3 times, Ghost 4 times and Flesh twice.

    Enough already, please fix this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdmag View Post
    Im officially begging you to please increase the drop rates of Sigil pieces in Necro 4 ( the correct Sigil pieces). I am so tired of running Inferno 6 or 7 times every life so that I can move on and run Litany. At the very least please give a chance to have one in the end rewards.

    I have to run a Necro 4 quest 15 freaking times just to run Litany!!

    4 runs of Inferno this life ---- 3 Right Pincers and 1 center( wheres my right frame!!)
    1 run of Ghost ----1 eye ( No Left frame!!!)
    2 runs of Vol ------ 2 center frames ( No Right Wings!!)
    1 run of Flesh---- 1 left wing ( yay for me)

    So Ive run 8 of these and still dont have a complete sigil ( not even close), ill have at minimum 3 more runs for a complete sigil. And I came into this life with 5 of 8 pieces.

    Last life I had to run Inferno 8 times to get my Right Frame, Vol 3 times, Ghost 4 times and Flesh twice.

    Enough already, please fix this.

    Here's my take on this

    Step 1. Scrap the whole sigil flagging system.
    Step 2. Make the sigil collecting another turn in npc for -ranged weapons- that is: Bows, Xbows, throwers, and maybe some returning arrows with unique effect and/or quivers.
    Step 3. 4 quests done now flag you for Mausoleum
    Step 4. [optional] You can flag the mausoleum with either 2 of the minibosses, and skip 2 with shards. (5-10 shard or plat each) (insert lore you hired others to do the dirty job for you)

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    Yes please.

    I haven't run Litany in years because I can't get flagged for it on a TR toon, or my non TR toons are so far over level that it would make no sense to run it.

    Groups for it are also next to non-existent. (for years now)


    Sad.... I like this quest......



    (IMO, it should have gotten the epic treatment)
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    ..., but I honestly think the solution is to group with less whiny people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdmag View Post
    Im officially begging you to please increase the drop rates of Sigil pieces in Necro 4 ( the correct Sigil pieces). I am so tired of running Inferno 6 or 7 times every life so that I can move on and run Litany. At the very least please give a chance to have one in the end rewards.

    I have to run a Necro 4 quest 15 freaking times just to run Litany!!

    4 runs of Inferno this life ---- 3 Right Pincers and 1 center( wheres my right frame!!)
    1 run of Ghost ----1 eye ( No Left frame!!!)
    2 runs of Vol ------ 2 center frames ( No Right Wings!!)
    1 run of Flesh---- 1 left wing ( yay for me)

    So Ive run 8 of these and still dont have a complete sigil ( not even close), ill have at minimum 3 more runs for a complete sigil. And I came into this life with 5 of 8 pieces.

    Last life I had to run Inferno 8 times to get my Right Frame, Vol 3 times, Ghost 4 times and Flesh twice.

    Enough already, please fix this.


    UPDATE AND MORE EVIDENCE AS TO WHY THIS NEEDS A FIX.

    4 More runs of Vol
    3 more runs of Inferno
    2 more runs of Ghost

    THESE ARE IN ADDITION TO THE RUNS IN MY INITIAL POST...AND STILL DONT HAVE A COMPLETE SIGIL ( missing #5)

    Should also note that I have 2400 kills in Orchard..If I had to guess, Id say I have got the Rats and Train chests 20 or 25 times.

    So to recap, Ive got approximately 40 chests in total...AND DO NOT HAVE A COMPLETED SIGIL. This is straight up ridiculous.

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    I've not run Litany or the Abbot once. Ever.
    The flagging has a lot to do with why.
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    Are you running as a group that passes the pieces around? Our group can gather them pretty quick if we share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miow View Post
    Are you running as a group that passes the pieces around? Our group can gather them pretty quick if we share.

    Some of them are as a group, some solo. Still no Sigil, because everyone else is looking for pieces too

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdmag View Post
    UPDATE AND MORE EVIDENCE AS TO WHY THIS NEEDS A FIX.

    4 More runs of Vol
    3 more runs of Inferno
    2 more runs of Ghost

    THESE ARE IN ADDITION TO THE RUNS IN MY INITIAL POST...AND STILL DONT HAVE A COMPLETE SIGIL ( missing #5)

    Should also note that I have 2400 kills in Orchard..If I had to guess, Id say I have got the Rats and Train chests 20 or 25 times.

    So to recap, Ive got approximately 40 chests in total...AND DO NOT HAVE A COMPLETED SIGIL. This is straight up ridiculous.
    I was running Litany just the other day and the guy with me didn't realise the Sigil pieces were removed when he handed it in his previous life so he was one short - I said np let's run Vol to get you your sigil - EEHHN - 5 Runs, 2 People to get him the piece he needed!
    A 1st or 2nd Lifer would likely hard cap just from getting the Sigil - Getting BB on Litany is ridiculous because even if you're flagged for it getting a group together is next to impossible!

    Quote Originally Posted by Talon_Moonshadow View Post
    (IMO, it should have gotten the epic treatment)
    Oh God Yes!

    It still gets and annoys me to no end that Turbine not only didn't Epic Litany but went and left the Sigil Requirement in Heroic while removing it from Epic!

    In my opinion Litany should have been Epicced, The Sigil Requirement should have been moved to Epic and Heroic should be like MoD flagging now only with Heroic Litany being required {just like MoD would have E-Litany as a Requirement}.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdmag View Post
    UPDATE AND MORE EVIDENCE AS TO WHY THIS NEEDS A FIX.

    4 More runs of Vol
    3 more runs of Inferno
    2 more runs of Ghost

    THESE ARE IN ADDITION TO THE RUNS IN MY INITIAL POST...AND STILL DONT HAVE A COMPLETE SIGIL ( missing #5)

    Should also note that I have 2400 kills in Orchard..If I had to guess, Id say I have got the Rats and Train chests 20 or 25 times.

    So to recap, Ive got approximately 40 chests in total...AND DO NOT HAVE A COMPLETED SIGIL. This is straight up ridiculous.


    More Updates..

    1 more run of Vol
    5 more runs of Inferno ( and not once in these did I get the Right Frame, which is supposed to drop in here) So guess what? I get to run Inferno 10 times next life too.


    Still cant complete my Sigil.

    Ive come to far to give up now.

    So 23 runs of a necro 4 quest and 25 wilderness area chests and still missing 1 piece.

    I just want to run Litany and move on with my life
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    If you start a LFM and get some people with you, chances are some of them already have lots of sigil pieces and are willing to gives you theirs in chest. At least that happens to me when I ask for sigil pieces.

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    I have never run one either. With 5 toons trying to get the set to flag, it is a issue to be looked at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ykt View Post
    If you start a LFM and get some people with you, chances are some of them already have lots of sigil pieces and are willing to gives you theirs in chest. At least that happens to me when I ask for sigil pieces.


    I do that sometimes. Sometimes it fills, sometimes I get no one

    Sometimes with a group I get them faster..sometimes not.



    Either way, I think they really need to increase the drop rate. It should be an automatic drop for #'s 1 through 4, in their respective quests..then also a chance at a random # 5 through 8.

    We shouldn't have to run 25 quests and 25 Rares in the wilderness area to get a filled Sigil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdmag View Post
    I do that sometimes. Sometimes it fills, sometimes I get no one

    Sometimes with a group I get them faster..sometimes not.



    Either way, I think they really need to increase the drop rate. It should be an automatic drop for #'s 1 through 4, in their respective quests..then also a chance at a random # 5 through 8.

    We shouldn't have to run 25 quests and 25 Rares in the wilderness area to get a filled Sigil.
    i too would like to see a guaranteed 1-4 piece drop in the 4 quests with a chance of 5-8 as an extra
    on top. this would be good for the game i believe.

    everyone knows im a multilifer, each life i flag for litany by collecting the sigil pieces and believe me
    after a 100+ lives you would think id have 100's of them pieces by now but i dont. ive just looked in
    my sigil and next life ill need 3 of the pieces. surely this has to change and this has my vote for said
    change.

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    Yea, I've been playing for a while but have never been in Litany (or Abbott) because the sigil system always seemed too confusing and hard to accomplish. It hasn't seemed worth it, especially when there is much other content (now) in the game at those levels. However, I recently took a closer look at trying to flag for Litany because I wanted Shining Devastation (everbright for oozes) and was almost immediately put off again by the sheer randomness of it. It seems like it is way past time for this to change.

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    I cant believe im actually agreeing, but I think it might be time. I don't like eliminating reasons to group, but heroic Necro 4 has lost some popularity over the past year. it has its moments of hit or miss. Necro 4 and Litany has great xp and its near impossible to get a group for Litany. while OPs case is the most extreme and bad luck I have heard of, in this fast paced game where players a lot of times loot and scoot and one and done, it can be tough to complete a sigil. at least the mechanics and the challenge of the quests provide some reason to group.

    I would suggest guaranteed drop of 1-4 in its respected quest and a high chance for a random piece in any quest. keep the low chance in the Orchard. perhaps a chance for a random piece in the end reward. this would increase players flagging for Litany and should see more lfms for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdmag View Post
    Some of them are as a group, some solo. Still no Sigil, because everyone else is looking for pieces too
    I sympathize with your problem, but I don't think I've ever had to do more than a few runs to finish a Sigil, and the pieces drop from Orchard rares as well.

    It's still a terrible flagging mechanism, and I have no idea why they didn't update it when Epic Necro came out.

    This and Stealer of Souls need cleanup badly.
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    - let's just have 4 pieces
    - make pieces unbound
    - make sigil not consumed upon flagging
    - turn in 3 sigils to get one sigil of your choice
    - turn in 5 taps to get one sigil of your choice

    EDIT:
    - sell sigil pieces in the DDO Store.
    - sell complete sigil for astral shards: number_of_missing_pieces ^ 2
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    It´s really a annoying Thing coz you get a lot of parts you already have and not what you Need. When running in Party, it´s not a big Thing although you´ll still Need a few runs.
    For situations like this, why not have a Trader? We have that for many other things, but not here? It´s a common System so let´s have it like that please dear Devs. Click the fountain, 3 to 1 tax-rate and pop goes the weasel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbenklopper View Post
    It´s really a annoying Thing coz you get a lot of parts you already have and not what you Need. When running in Party, it´s not a big Thing although you´ll still Need a few runs.
    For situations like this, why not have a Trader? We have that for many other things, but not here? It´s a common System so let´s have it like that please dear Devs. Click the fountain, 3 to 1 tax-rate and pop goes the weasel!


    Never thought of this idea, but I like it. That would make a world of difference. I think I have 8 of the #8 sigil pieces and 4 or 5 each of a couple more. I would have been able to trade them in, and saved pulling my hair out of my head.

    Do you remember Andy Dufresne from Shawshank Redemption? He wrote a letter to the state senate every week for years until he finally got the money for his library.

    Im going to bump this thread every week until a Dev responds and admits that it needs some attention

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    Hi,

    Thanks for posting about this. It reminded me I should make sure I had a complete sigil before TRing.

    It took me 7 runs of Inferno on HE to get the right frame. That didn't take take long at cap, but it would have been an annoying hold-up when relevelling. Reaching ransack just trying to get flagged, not find some rare and excellent piece of loot, is ridiculous.

    In the past I don't remember it ever taking more than three runs to get the right frame. The sample size is too small to be sure that something is off with the drop rate, but it would be nice if this was less of a hassle.

    OP, I hope you find your piece soon and do not succumb to the temptation of spending shards on chest rerolls. There have been some good suggestions in this thread about how to make this less painful, and hopefully some of them will be considered.

    Thanks.

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