Can any1 beat this cheat's ?

[JOTMON]

is prr over 200 useful at all?

Yes and no..

... DDO has evolved to kill mob faster =Win ...

Dead toons do no DPS.. so you need to be able to take a hit while keeping yourself alive.
but..
You start sacrificing DPS for Defenses.. so while you can take 1 more hit, you are taking longer to kill the mob..
prolonged battles are bad..
Mobs don't run out of resources and continue to damage at full output, players lose momentum relatively quickly.

[LuckyMenX]

Yes and no..

... DDO has evolved to kill mob faster =Win ...

Dead toons do no DPS.. so you need to be able to take a hit while keeping yourself alive.
but..
You start sacrificing DPS for Defenses.. so while you can take 1 more hit, you are taking longer to kill the mob..
prolonged battles are bad..
Mobs don't run out of resources and continue to damage at full output, players lose momentum relatively quickly.

You can keep up max def with prr mrr and also get around 900 spell power so its enough high to kill suff or do dps on le raid vs bosses. But what i know...

[Ghwyn]

You should make these completions their own thread

[LuckyMenX]

You should make these completions their own thread

Ok boss ;p post moved to new Thread

[LuckyMenX]

Here are my result while i was trying improve my gimp toon:

http://imgup.pl/di/G6LL/screenshot00015.jpg

There rly much stuff do for. After i finish farming Mythical +3/4 and finish all my lgs items i will reach 2k+hp and 501prr 251mrr on shiradi and around 900 spellpower. But i might also thinking about sentinel or exalted ed for raid debuffer also but ill share with my improvment when i finish stuff 1st when i done everything this will be rly bad ass for raids. Tank / DPS / Debuffer.
Cya in game

[Phil7]

Who are you in game mate?

Trobas

[JOTMON]

You can keep up max def with prr mrr and also get around 900 spell power so its enough high to kill suff or do dps on le raid vs bosses. But what i know...

It is your thread so if you want to shamelessly self promote your uberness and completions, then all the power too you.
I was just giving my opinion to another poster about the value of PRR vs DPS.. if you have found the magic focal point to achieve both without sacrifice then do tell..

[Ghwyn]

It is your thread so if you want to shamelessly self promote your uberness and completions, then all the power too you.
I was just giving my opinion to another poster about the value of PRR vs DPS.. if you have found the magic focal point to achieve both without sacrifice then do tell..

I have played with him many times, and I see nothing that he has sacrificed. He can tank, survive, and deal good dps. He has every right to be proud of his character.

[LuckyMenX]

I have played with him many times, and I see nothing that he has sacrificed. He can tank, survive, and deal good dps. He has every right to be proud of his character.

Thx Ghwyn but you know how its works. Haters gonna hate you always. forgot to add this build can debuff everything by 45% (45% more psychical dmg , 25 more light dmg ) and 50% more light dmg froom aura. But think ill stop adding anything on my thread about improvment my gimp toon because there always find ppl who ALWAYS know better than you ! or trying tell you your build sux just like that for no point Well ppl who played with me know that this toon can do a lot better than any1 think. Cya in game

[Ghwyn]

With so many views, keep posting. Far more people enjoy it than complain. Plus its fun to see people envy come out

[JOTMON]

Thx Ghwyn but you know how its works. Haters gonna hate you always. forgot to add this build can debuff everything by 45% (45% more psychical dmg , 25 more light dmg ) and 50% more light dmg froom aura. But think ill stop adding anything on my thread about improvment my gimp toon because there always find ppl who ALWAYS know better than you ! or trying tell you your build sux just like that for no point Well ppl who played with me know that this toon can do a lot better than any1 think. Cya in game

not hating, just pointing out that there is a trade off of DPS for defenses, I have done it in my own BF warlock tank (went with a higher dodge instead of high PRR with 2kHP buffing to 4k. and works well in LE stuff.)

I am not saying your build is poorly done or is gimp or anything else, I am sure it is working quite well and you have found the sweet spot for survival and damage.
I just get the impression you are saying you have not given up any DPS to get PRR over 200, which I find doubtful.
which lead to my my earlier response to Vanhooger directed at the value of PRR over 200.
PRR over 200 means wearing heavy armor and investing feats/enhancement points that could have been used to boost power, so there is a trade off happening somewhere.

[Loromir]

not hating, just pointing out that there is a trade off of DPS for defenses, I have done it in my own BF warlock tank (went with a higher dodge instead of high PRR with 2kHP buffing to 4k. and works well in LE stuff.)

I am not saying your build is poorly done or is gimp or anything else, I am sure it is working quite well and you have found the sweet spot for survival and damage.
I just get the impression you are saying you have not given up any DPS to get PRR over 200, which I find doubtful.
which lead to my my earlier response to Vanhooger directed at the value of PRR over 200.
PRR over 200 means wearing heavy armor and investing feats/enhancement points that could have been used to boost power, so there is a trade off happening somewhere.

To be fair, the OP said nothing about DPS until people decided to call him out. And...he responded to you saying he had enough DPS to still kill stuff in LE and raids. He didn't say anything about not sacrificing DPS. And to boot he gave us a screen shot showing very high spell power...so I think his DPS is still quite formidable.

So yea...maybe he could forgo some defense and squeak in a little bit more DPS....but as you (or someone on this thread) said...a dead toons don't do DPS. So if good defense can help him stay alive a little longer....then seems like maybe he has found the sweet spot.

The problem is, that people have to degrade other peoples accomplishments to validate their own. A little power envy definitely going on here.

[JOTMON]

To be fair, the OP said nothing about DPS until people decided to call him out. And...he responded to you saying he had enough DPS to still kill stuff in LE and raids. He didn't say anything about not sacrificing DPS. And to boot he gave us a screen shot showing very high spell power...so I think his DPS is still quite formidable.

So yea...maybe he could forgo some defense and squeak in a little bit more DPS....but as you (or someone on this thread) said...a dead toons don't do DPS. So if good defense can help him stay alive a little longer....then seems like maybe he has found the sweet spot.

The problem is, that people have to degrade other peoples accomplishments to validate their own. A little power envy definitely going on here.

There was some misunderstanding going on.
I wasn't calling him out I was responding to a post about the value of PRR over 200.

OP responded to that post with some numbers showing that he indicated he wasn't sacrificing which was then followed by Ghwyn trying to turn this into a hater post.
which it wasn't.
I wasn't suggesting any changes or that he didn't have enough DPS, I was just pointing out that investing into defense has a cost, but defenses are useful if you are alive to continue DPS since dead toons do no DPS.


That is one problem,... but there are also too many people have degraded to posting clipped artificially unsustainable boosted screenies.
you know Royalty bonuses, sigils, reborn In light, 3rd party buffs,... getting those stars aligned for the perfect screen capture than passing it off as normal sustained...

Not saying its the case here.. but still have to be skeptical when there no supporting info...

[LuckyMenX]

There was some misunderstanding going on.
I wasn't calling him out I was responding to a post about the value of PRR over 200.

OP responded to that post with some numbers showing that he indicated he wasn't sacrificing which was then followed by Ghwyn trying to turn this into a hater post.
which it wasn't.
I wasn't suggesting any changes or that he didn't have enough DPS, I was just pointing out that investing into defense has a cost, but defenses are useful if you are alive to continue DPS since dead toons do no DPS.


That is one problem,... but there are also too many people have degraded to posting clipped artificially unsustainable boosted screenies.
you know Royalty bonuses, sigils, reborn In light, 3rd party buffs,... getting those stars aligned for the perfect screen capture than passing it off as normal sustained...

Not saying its the case here.. but still have to be skeptical when there no supporting info...

To make it clear im not gonna fight with no1 on this forum. All i want to say is that maby i found solution to keep max def, right now im sit with around 500 prr and around 250 mrr with +/- 900 spellpower, saves around 90 , resistance 80+ and i boost my hp's becos i crafted couple lgs. True i cant get so high dmg / spellpower as a pure caster builds like lock sorc etc but with all debuffs witch bring in total 45% more dmg and another more 50% more light dmg froom aura if enemy hit me i can deal rly high dps even with max defense. Simply ruin and greater hit's around 10k / 25-30k + hellball + auras etc I saw many sorc's , lock's build witch cannot took agroo froom me so i think i got not so bad dps. True i cant even compare with dps ppl witch we runing LE Raids but let's be honest theres not so many capable ppl to do le raids in my opinion or maby they dont showed up yet Anyway thx every1 to coments my build im sure i can find any tip's to keep improvment my gimp toon. Ciao bonanza

[Kebtid]

Who gives a **** if its sustainable or not, if wykin is enjoying his build let him do so.
Considering he has issues with english its a incredible feat that he found a build that can survive in current meta while being in melee range of le bosses.

I can only imagine how much research, asking around, reading and translating it took him to put this together.

Good job in short wyk, do not let the hater hate, instead be the hater

[LuckyMenX]

Who gives a **** if its sustainable or not, if wykin is enjoying his build let him do so.
Considering he has issues with english its a incredible feat that he found a build that can survive in current meta while being in melee range of le bosses.

I can only imagine how much research, asking around, reading and translating it took him to put this together.

Good job in short wyk, do not let the hater hate, instead be the hater

Issues with english? translating ? reading ? asking? Such nice sarcastic post :0 i made this build on my own if you want know lol. But hey theres many other build on forum witch you could follow ! But whatever ;p your post was only for trying ridicule me but hey i like it. Keep trying men, whoever you are I would not be surprised if you are 1 of thoose cannith trade puppys Haters always gonna hate you

[KomradKillMachine]

Who gives a **** if its sustainable or not, if wykin is enjoying his build let him do so.
Considering he has issues with english its a incredible feat that he found a build that can survive in current meta while being in melee range of le bosses.

I can only imagine how much research, asking around, reading and translating it took him to put this together.

Good job in short wyk, do not let the hater hate, instead be the hater

And the award for the Best Bakchanded compliment goes to...

[KomradKillMachine]

Also, those 61x long lasting elixirs of supreme ability @ approximate price of 1952 TP
and those 76x superior SP potions @ approximate price of 1795 TP are rather quite expensive for me to build around.
Is that how you kill things super fast? by blowing SP pots like there was no tomorrow?

[LuckyMenX]

Also, those 61x long lasting elixirs of supreme ability @ approximate price of 1952 TP
and those 76x superior SP potions @ approximate price of 1795 TP are rather quite expensive for me to build around.
Is that how you kill things super fast? by blowing SP pots like there was no tomorrow?

Indeed im rich and i spend $$$ for tp's every day to buy more and more pots in ddo store! You enjoy the anserw?
Conversion pots to tp ??? like there was no card event where you could farm card's and make sp pots or supreme ability? 100% ppl in ddo runing epic quest where drop commendation of valors and you can trade them for ability pots? come haters come ill anserw your all question ;p haha peace

[LuckyMenX]

Im just re posting ss with my stats and spellpower becos old1 for some reasons wont open:

http://imgup.pl/di/QWYN/screenshot00006.jpg

You can see on this screen max prr witch i reach 494 prr 244 mrr missing some prr mrr if i decide some day to hunt for some +3-4 mythic items and you can see spellpower on shiradi and exlated ed.