Sneaky Boulder: Ultra-survivable Centered Thief Acrobat

[Qezuzu]

Cool to know. I don't know what applications that would have though.

OP is outdated. Monk Water Stance gives a substantial boost to max dodge, I now have 53% dodge without LGS or Halfling enhancements, so I can achieve >100% when using Uncanny Dodge which is pretty neat.

I haven't touched Reaper or played much at all lately, I haven't had much time to play DDO and when I do have time, my friends are TRing and not at the same level and I don't really enjoy DDO all that much without them. I've been playing Dragon's Dogma instead. It's a really amazing game

I think dodge Rogues could be really legit in Reaper if played well, but I haven't tried it out yet. If anyone reading this is on Thelanis, PM me maybe we can get something set-up.

[Morroiel]

Cool to know. I don't know what applications that would have though.

OP is outdated. Monk Water Stance gives a substantial boost to max dodge, I now have 53% dodge without LGS or Halfling enhancements, so I can achieve >100% when using Uncanny Dodge which is pretty neat.

I haven't touched Reaper or played much at all lately, I haven't had much time to play DDO and when I do have time, my friends are TRing and not at the same level and I don't really enjoy DDO all that much without them. I've been playing Dragon's Dogma instead. It's a really amazing game

I think dodge Rogues could be really legit in Reaper if played well, but I haven't tried it out yet. If anyone reading this is on Thelanis, PM me maybe we can get something set-up.

Didn't realize you were on thelanis. Toon names? Always looking for players to play with - endgame is pretty dead atm.

[Qezuzu]

Didn't realize you were on thelanis. Toon names? Always looking for players to play with - endgame is pretty dead atm.

Toon's name is Spookiness, I've grouped with a lot of Renowned guys but that was months ago, I haven't been very active lately. My guildmates might have been keeping in touch though.

It'd be great to get something organized, or at least know what the top players have been up to and when, the few times I've logged on in the past week or so there haven't been any LFM's up that interest me.

[Qezuzu]

Enhancements for Reaper:



Not shown: human tree (no points spent,) Henshin (core 1 taken.)

Spell Traps are invaluable due to their high DC at all level ranges.

I am not running as much dodge as I could be because points are tight. The important thing is that you achieve 50%.

In Reaper, Shadowdancer might be better than Dreadnought due to the high probability of dying (thus mostly negating the main benefit of LD, which is Blitz,) the fact that I already twist in two things from SD (Meld, Technician) and because the +20 Hide/MS from shadow form is very valuable. I end up running a LOT of hide so if you can, Scion of Etheral Plane is a good choice if you can fit in the 4% dodge somehow to remain at 50% dodge (like, LGS set and then one point in Ninja Spy.)

[gracelessrogue]

Hey, not to bump an old thread, but how viable is taking a third level of monk in order to get a martial philosophy? I run solo for the most part and some healing would be nice- not exactly sure where healing factors into the build right now except maybe in epics. Losing that doublestrike from rogue 18 is rough though.

[unhappymeal]

Is it possible to just build for INT (and of course the strength pre-requisites) thanks to the Harper tree? Potentially take Insightful Reflexes?

[MalarKan]

Is it possible to just build for INT (and of course the strength pre-requisites) thanks to the Harper tree? Potentially take Insightful Reflexes?

It is, but usually might be better to splash deeper into other classes like Eldritch Knight wiz IE.

But staying pure rogue, int acrobat would be possible. Give it a try and let us know ????

[unhappymeal]

It is, but usually might be better to splash deeper into other classes like Eldritch Knight wiz IE.

But staying pure rogue, int acrobat would be possible. Give it a try and let us know ????

I think I just might! You'd obviously have lower reflex saves (unless you found a way to squeeze in Insightful Reflexes), but you'd (theoretically) be more point efficient, right?

[HuneyMunster]

After next update a Stick Rogue should get better action point distribution thanks to both Quick Strike and Shadow Dodge becoming 1 pointers. The spare 6 points would allow 4 points for Vault leaving 2 spare. Also, the recent introduction of free Swords to Plowshares feat.

I'm not sure if pure rogue for extra 5% attack speed, 50% Strikethrough and Vorpal knockdown is better, though the latter two require tumbling every six seconds. The Grandmaster forms gives more versatility for offence vs defence.

[MalarKan]

After next update a Stick Rogue should get better action point distribution thanks to both Quick Strike and Shadow Dodge becoming 1 pointers. The spare 6 points would allow 4 points for Vault leaving 2 spare. Also, the recent introduction of free Swords to Plowshares feat.

I'm not sure if pure rogue for extra 5% attack speed, 50% Strikethrough and Vorpal knockdown is better, though the latter two require tumbling every six seconds. The Grandmaster forms gives more versatility for offence vs defence.

The tumble every 6 secs is no problem, either as an engage or follow through evasive mobs (like kobolds). I believe most acrobats have ingrained constant tumbling into their play style so maintain the bonuses of Follow Thru is no issue.

But yes, splashing with other classes has aleays been best to maximize several aspects (like dodges, double strikes and more). Staying pure as any class other than sorc tends to be a flavour motivated choice

I am glad of the few soon to be free points. Acrobats AP investement is really limitating when compares to mech and assin. And about the later, it still bugs me how high a dodge they can get compared to acrobats... i believe they can get easily 40% while acrobats habe to strugle to get more than 43%. I want moar goodies!

[HuneyMunster]

The tumble every 6 secs is no problem, either as an engage or follow through evasive mobs (like kobolds). I believe most acrobats have ingrained constant tumbling into their play style so maintain the bonuses of Follow Thru is no issue.

But yes, splashing with other classes has aleays been best to maximize several aspects (like dodges, double strikes and more). Staying pure as any class other than sorc tends to be a flavour motivated choice

I am glad of the few soon to be free points. Acrobats AP investement is really limitating when compares to mech and assin. And about the later, it still bugs me how high a dodge they can get compared to acrobats... i believe they can get easily 40% while acrobats habe to strugle to get more than 43%. I want moar goodies!

Assassins with better Dodge was certainly true pre-Vistani. Since then 3 points into Acrobat is optimal for the movement speed. Light Armor Mastery is 6 Max Dex Bonus while Measure the Foe 10 Max Dodge Bonus is temporary and drop full stacks on expire.

My Assassins standing Dodge is 35 due to Light Armor with a MDB of 39. so I am hard-capped at 39 with MTF charges unless they go cloth.

Acrobat get 6 Max Dodge and Dex bonus from cores, 3 max dodge 3 max dex bonus from Shadow Dodge for a total of 9 Max Dodge and 9 Max Dex.

So Acrobat in Light Armor does get better dodge unless Assassins spend more AP in Acrobat. This generally mean dropping KtA in Harper as dropping points in Vistani loses too much dps. In cloth Assassin can get +1 higher, but its only temporary compared to permanent for Acrobat.


Edit: My Rogue is Halfling so have 3 bonuses to Max Dodge and Max Dex.