Random Loot: Effects Per Slot

[NoWorries]

In order to get some polish on the effects in random loot, I thought I'd open up the discussion of what effects are dropping on which loot slot. This is obviously a pretty long list making it tougher to work with, but I wanted to open it up to player feedback before we went live with it. Feel free to mention anything that feels wrong, effects that feel under-represented, and of course effects that are missing.

So without further ado:

Armor:

Prefix: Fortification, Physical Resistances, Elemental Absorption, Spell Resistance, Combat Mastery, Constitution
Suffix: Elemental Resistances, Insightful Physical Resistances, False Life, Insightful Combat Mastery, Intimidate, Move Silently, Guard Effects, Vitality, Healing/Repair Amplification
Extra: Insightful Fortification, Insightful Elemental Resistances, Parrying, Deathblock, Balance, Insightful Balance, Insightful Intimidate, Insightful Move Silently, Insightful Constitution

Weapons:

Prefix: Parrying, Seeker, Armor Piercing, Alacrity, Elemental Damages, Vorpal, Paralyzing, Spell Powers
Suffix: Deadly, Doublestrike, Vertigo, Shatter, Stunning, Tendon Slice, Assassinate, Incite, Diversion, Elemental Critical Damage, Creature Banes, Spell Criticals, Insightful Spell Powers, Banishing, Smiting, Deception, Keen
Extra: Insightful Seeker, Insightful Deadly, Insightful Vertigo, Insightful Shatter, Insightful Stunning, Insightful Tendon Slice, Insightful Assassinate, Vampirism, Stat Poison, Spell Penetrations

Shield:

Prefix: Fortification, Physical Resistances, Elemental Absorption, Spell Resistance, Combat Mastery, Spell Powers
Suffix: Elemental Resistances, Insightful Physical Resistances, False Life, Insightful Combat Mastery, Intimidate, Move Silently, Guard Effects, Shield Bashing damage/Spikes, Wizardry
Extra: Insightful Fortification, Insightful Elemental Resistances, Parrying, Deathblock, Balance, Insightful Balance, Insightful Intimidate, Insightful Move Silently, Insightful Spell Powers,

Head:

Prefix: Fortification, Wizardry, Sheltering, Insightful Incite, Concentration, Haggle, Intimidate, Listen, Intelligence
Suffix: Resistance Saves, Parrying, Accuracy, Spell Focuses, Diplomacy, Insightful Intimidate, UMD, Wisdom, Spellsight, Stunning, Search,Spot
Extra: Insightful Fortification, Insightful Individual Resistance Saves, Insightful Sheltering, Incite, Deathblock, Insightful Concentration, Insightful Haggle, Insightful Listen, Insightful UMD, Insightful Intelligence, Insightful Search

Eyes:

Prefix: Seeker, Spell Focuses, Concentration, Disable Device, Search, UMD, Wisdom, Intelligence
Suffix: Accuracy, Spell Penetrations, Insightful Spell Focuses, Alacrity, Insightful Concentration, Open Lock, Spot, Insightful UMD, Deadly
Extra: Insightful Seeker, Insightful Spell Penetrations, Tendon Slice, Assassinate, Insightful Disable Device, Insightful Search, Insightful Spot, Insightful Wisdom, Insightful Intelligence

Bracers:

Prefix: Elemental Resistances ,Insightful Spell Resistances, Individual Resistance Saves, Protection, Deathblock, Strength
Suffix: Constitution, Tumble, Move Silently, Intimidate, Insightful Sheltering, Dodge Bonus, Fortification
Extra: Physical Resistances, Parrying, Sheltering, Insightful Intimidate, Perform, Insightful Strength

Rings:

Prefix: Physical Resistances, Wizardry, Elemental Absorptions, Spell Resistance, Spell Critical Increases, Balance, Diplomacy, Hide, Perform, Constitution, Charisma
Suffix: Dexterity, Tumble, Swim, Open Lock, Insightful Diplomacy, Bluff, Insightful Balance, Spell Powers, Assassinate, Sheltering, Protection, Insightful Individual Resist Saves, Spell Powers, False Life, Insightful Physical Resistances, Elemental Resistances, Feather Falling, Speed
Extra: Insightful Elemental Resistances, Insightful False Life, Insightful Spell Power, Insightful Spell Resistance, Enchantment\Illusion Saves, Parrying, Insightful Spell Power, Insightful Bluff, Insightful Hide, Insightful Perform, InsightfuL Constitution, Insightful Charisma

Feet:

Prefix: Dodge Bonus, Seeker, Combat Mastery, Speed, Balance, Move Silently, Tumble, Dexterity
Suffix: Strength, Guard Effects, Swim, Jump, Insightful Balance, Diversion, Sheltering, Parrying, Feather Falling
Extra: Insightful Fortification, False Life, Insightful Dodge Bonus, Insightful Seeker, Insightful Combat Mastery, Insightful Jump, Insightful Move Silently, Insightful Swim, Insightful Tumble, Insightful Dexterity

Neck:

Prefix: Insightful Spell Resistance, Enchantment\Illusion Saves, Spell Focuses, Heal, Repair, Tumble, Constitution
Suffix: Charisma, Bluff, Sheltering, False Life, Insightful Wizardry, Natural Armor Bonus, Insightful Intimidate, Spellsight, Search, Spot
Extra: Insightful Enchantment\Illusion Saves, Insightful Sheltering, Insightful Heal, Insightful Repair, Insightful Tumble, Insightful Constitution, Insightful Spot

Hands:

Prefix: Wizardry, Spell Powers, Accuracy, Doublestrike, Spell Penetration, Vertigo, Shatter, Stunning, Assassinate, Alacrity, Bluff, Disable Device, Open Lock, Perform, Dexterity, Strength
Suffix: Resistance Saves, Shield Bashing (chance to shield bash), Armor Piercing, Tendon Slice, Insightful Assassinate, Insightful Combat Mastery, Universal Spell Power, Universal Spell Crit, Insightful Disable Device, Heal, Intimidate, Repair, UMD, Deadly, Healing/Repair Amp
Extra: Insightful Dexterity, Insightful Strength, Insightful Perform, Insightful Open Lock, Insightful Bluff, Incite, Insightful Tendon Slice, Insightful Vertigo, Insightful Shatter, Insightful Stun, Insightful Spell Penetration, Insightful Doublestrike, Insightful Accuracy, Insightful Spell Power, Insightful Wizardry

Cloak:

Prefix: Elemental Resistance, Spell Resistance, Individual Resist Saves, Diversion, Balance, Hide, Charisma, Intelligence
Suffix: Wisdom, Intimidate, Diplomacy, Dodge Bonnus, Natural Armor Bonus, Resistance Saves, Enchantment/Illusion Saves, Elemental Absorptions, Physical Resistances, Insightful Elemental Resistances, Feather Falling, Spellsight
Extra: Insightful Physical Resistances, False Life, Insightful Spell Resistance, Insightful Enchantment\Illusion Saves, Insightful Sheltering, Insightful Diversion, Insightful Balance, Insightful Hide, Insightful Charisma, Insightful Intelligence, Insightful Wisdom

Belt:

Prefix: Spell Resistance, Dodge Bonus, Doublestrike, Move Silently, Insightful Diversion, Deathblock, Diplomacy, Physical Resistances, Constitution
Suffix: False Life, Insightful Spell Resistance, Natural Armor Bonus, Parrying, Vertigo, Shatter, Stunning, Balance, Jump, Swim, Tumble, Strength
Extra: Insightful Constitution, Insightful Strength, Insightful Tumble, Insightful Swim, Insightful Move Silently, Assassinate, Insightful Doublestrike, Insightful Dodge Bonus, Insightful False Life, Insightful Physical Resistances

[SableShadow]

Assassinate *and* Insightful Assassinate on random l00tz ... interesting.

[janave]

Looks solid at a quick glance.

Deadly moved only to weapons? This might be unwelcome for some, altho i can see why that effect would be dropped from gear.

Double strike could appear on shields i guess, it might be desireable if the %s scale better than now.

Oh, what about trinkets? or the wondrous system is not part of the rand loot ?

Insightful Spell Resistances - is this SR or saves?

Actually, seeker on boots is a little weird, maybe swap with hands <-> vertigo ?

[FestusHood]

The weapon effects listed here aren't very interesting to me. Parrying is basically riposte, but worse. Seeker and alacrity are not things i personally would want on my weapon. Same with diversion or incite. I think lots of these effects can already be Cannith crafted now, but nobody ever does.

[Greantun]

Weapons:

Prefix: Parrying, Seeker, Armor Piercing, Alacrity, Elemental Damages
Suffix: Deadly, Doublestrike, Vertigo, Shatter, Stunning, Tendon Slice, Assassinate, Incite, Diversion, Elemental Critical Damage, Creature Banes
Extra: Insightful Seeker, Insightful Deadly, Insightful Vertigo, Insightful Shatter, Insightful Stunning, Insightful Tendon Slice, Insightful Assassinate, Vampirism, Stat Poison

Sure am glad I have all my deadly items already. Things like Deadly Helmet of Accuracy with this are no longer possible. Since I would be either using GS, LGS, or other named weapons, deadly is a now dead effect.

[FestusHood]

Looks solid at a quick glance.

Deadly moved only to weapons? This might be unwelcome for some, altho i can see why that effect would be dropped from gear.

Double strike could appear on shields i guess, it might be desireable if the %s scale better than now.

Oh, what about trinkets? or the wondrous system is not part of the rand loot ?

Insightful Spell Resistances - is this SR or saves?

Might be time to stock up on deadly items. No, i wouldn't want it to take up an effect on my weapon, definitely a step down from having it on gear.

[janave]

Might be time to stock up on deadly items. No, i wouldn't want it to take up an effect on my weapon, definitely a step down from having it on gear.

Eh, it was a little too good to be honest.

[Grailhawk]

Feel free to mention anything that feels wrong, effects that feel under-represented, and of course effects that are missing.

So without further ado:

Armor:

Prefix: Fortification, Physical Resistances, Elemental Absorption, Spell Resistance, Combat Mastery, Constitution
Suffix: Elemental Resistances, Insightful Physical Resistances, False Life, Insightful Combat Mastery, Intimidate, Move Silently, Guard Effects
Extra: Insightful Fortification, Insightful Elemental Resistances, Parrying, Deathblock, Balance, Insightful Balance, Insightful Intimidate, Insightful Move Silently, Insightful Constitution

Healing Amplification

New Effect: 5-15% AC increases in the Extra slot only.

Light/Cloth Armor Only
Dodge, Mobility Feat, Dexterity

[Saekee]

What about this list that was mentioned in the Lam thread?

http://ddowiki.com/page/Composed_weapon_affixes

[Saekee]

For weapons: maybe add procs and debuffs like Estar weapons http://ddowiki.com/page/Eveningstar_Challenge_Pack

Note: I suggested we implement a crafting option with estar weapons

[Grailhawk]

Feel free to mention anything that feels wrong, effects that feel under-represented, and of course effects that are missing.
Weapons:

Prefix: Parrying, Seeker, Armor Piercing, Alacrity, Elemental Damages
Suffix: Deadly, Doublestrike, Vertigo, Shatter, Stunning, Tendon Slice, Assassinate, Incite, Diversion, Elemental Critical Damage, Creature Banes
Extra: Insightful Seeker, Insightful Deadly, Insightful Vertigo, Insightful Shatter, Insightful Stunning, Insightful Tendon Slice, Insightful Assassinate, Vampirism, Stat Poison

Keen?
Bloodletting, Ribcracking, Heartseeking?
Bleeding?

Also it seams like deadly is now only available on weapons, this is going to grandfather a lot of +10 deadly items as very powerful.

[TPICKRELL]

What about smiting, paralyzing, banishing, vorpal, disruption... Those are pretty classic random loot weapon abilities, I'd hate to see them left out.

[Saekee]

Keen?
Bloodletting, Ribcracking, Heartseeking?
Bleeding?

Also it seams like deadly is now only available on weapons, this is going to grandfather a lot of +10 deadly items as very powerful.

What about smiting, paralyzing, banishing, vorpal, disruption... Those are pretty classic random loot weapon abilities, I'd hate to see them left out.

/signed

[jalont]

I really hate that it seems you've reduced the variety of slots stats can go on.

[Roland_D'Arabel]

Might be time to stock up on deadly items. No, i wouldn't want it to take up an effect on my weapon, definitely a step down from having it on gear.

Agree with this. When most folks goal is to acquire named crafted weapons (Thunderforged, Greensteel or LGS) having deadly only appear on random gen weapons is illogical.

Also those weapon affixes look a little boring. Can we not have some return of some of the composed weapon affixes?

Examples: A Thousand Suns, Blasphemy, Crusader, Scintillating etc. Full list found here:

DDO Wiki Composed Affixes

[Grailhawk]

Feel free to mention anything that feels wrong, effects that feel under-represented, and of course effects that are missing.

Eyes:

Prefix: Seeker, Spell Focuses, Concentration, Disable Device, Search, UMD, Wisdom
Suffix: Accuracy, Spell Penetrations, Insightful Spell Focuses, Alacrity, Insightful Concentration, Open Lock, Spot, Insightful UMD, Intelligence
Extra: Insightful Seeker, Insightful Spell Penetrations, Tendon Slice, Assassinate, Insightful Disable Device, Insightful Search, Insightful, Spot, Insightful Wisdom

Bracers:

Extra effect only
True Seeing

[FestusHood]

The slots where certain stats can appear seem much more restricted in this system.

Spell resistance is tricky, it depends on what the amount is and at what level.

Looks like you borrowed a lot of the unique effects that can be Cannith crafted, but they are mostly the ones nobody ever uses.

I'm less worried about random loot outclassing named loot now after looking at this.

[Heathir]

/signed

No spell power, lore etc on weapons??

[FestusHood]

Eh, it was a little too good to be honest.

Maybe, but the horse has long bolted. Even if they went back and wiped all previous random loot, which they said they aren't going to do, it's still on named items.

[Grailhawk]

Feel free to mention anything that feels wrong, effects that feel under-represented, and of course effects that are missing.

Rings:

Prefix: Physical Resistances, Wizardry, Elemental Absorptions, Spell Resistance, Spell Critical Increases, Balance, Diplomacy, Hide, Perform, Constitution, Charisma
Suffix: Dexterity, Tumble, Swim, Open Lock, Insightful Diplomacy, Bluff, Insightful Balance, Spell Powers, Assassinate, Sheltering, Protection, Insightful Individual Resist Saves, Spell Powers, False Life, Insightful Physical Resistances, Elemental Resistances
Extra: Insightful Elemental Resistances, Insightful False Life, Insightful Spell Power, Insightful Spell Resistance, Enchantment\Illusion Saves, Parrying, Insightful Spell Power, Insightful Bluff, Insightful Hide, Insightful Perform, InsightfuL Constitution, Insightful Charisma

Rings should come with all stat options

Prefix: Int, Wis, Cha
Suffix: Str, Dex, Con

IMO