Enchantment trees faithful builds, is it possible?

[LookMyName]

Sup !!

New on the forum, well let me get to the point. I'm making builds (Almost 8 by now) based on the enchantments trees and theyr playstyles, focusing on the pros of the enchantment tree only.

All of them remain faithful, they focus on the strongest bonuses of the path chosen, theyre NOT optimal, but they sure create a unique playstyle.

Examples:

Fire Savant
Sorcerer 20
Human


Stats
. . . . . . . .28pt . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . --------
Strength. . . . 10. . . .4: CHA
Dexterity . . . .8. . . .8: CHA
Constitution. . 16. . . 12: CHA
Intelligence. . .8. . . 16: CHA
Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . 20: CHA
Charisma. . . . 18. . . 24: CHA
. . . . . . . . . . . . 28: CHA

Skills (Errors)
. . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Intim . . 2. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 11
Haggle. . 2. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 11
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . . 8. 0. 4. 0. 4. 0. 4. 0. 4. 0. 4. 0. 4. 0. 4. 0. 4. 0. 4. 0
. . . . . 8. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2


Feats

.1. . . . : Maximize Spell
.1 Human. : Empower Spell
.3. . . . : Enlarge Spell
.6. . . . : Quicken Spell
.9. . . . : Spell Penetration
12. . . . : Greater Spell Penetration
15. . . . : Heighten Spell
18. . . . : Spell Focus: Evocation
21 Epic . : Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
24 Epic . : Epic Spell Penetration
26 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Fire
27 Epic . : Epic Spell Focus: Evocation
28 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Force

*Note: The Empower, Maximize, Enlarge and Quicken order can be swapped. The enchantment tree can only focus on
one of them at a time.

About the skills: The only bonus of skills you get on the Fire Savant is intimidate and Haggle so you MUST level them up at all levels, the remaining points (lols) must be distibute following these rules:
1. Distribute the points equally between your class skills.
2. If you still have skill points you must distribute them equally through the rest of your skills.
3. The above rules serves for all builds.

About the enchantments: You can only use your chosen path tree and your race enchantment trees, the order is not important.

I can post more of them if anyone curious.

There is no ca... skill.

Also gonna run the Fire Savant right now. How much time till i ragequit?.

About the grammar: I'm deeply sorry if you eyes hurt, english is not my native language.

(Edit 1: Seems like I saved an incomplete version of the Kensei, gonna re-do it and edit the post).
(Edit 2: About the title: Is it possible to run it till the end-game?)
(Edit 3: Lost the Kensei, gonna redo it, but not now).

[unbongwah]

Hi, welcome to DDO.

Since you didn't post your Enhancements (PrEs) nor Epic Destinies (EDs), your builds are incomplete, IMO. So I'll go with some general advice on both, which can be fine-tuned later.

Sorcerers

• The most important skill for sorcs (or any offensive caster, really) is Spellcraft, which boosts most Spellpower. After that, it depends on your priorities, but I like to keep Concentration and Use Magic Device (UMD) maxed out on my sorcs, particularly if they're not Warforged or Bladeforged. UMD enables you to use race- or alignment-restricted gear; it also enables you to use scrolls & wands, which will be important for self-healing later on. And fortunately, a human sorc with base INT 10 has enough skill pts to max out all three.
• Spell Penetration is only useful to certain spells (mostly Enchantment and Necromancy) and only against mobs which have Spell Resistance (SR). Because sorcs are typically focused on raw damage rather than Enchant / Necro spells, I usually skip the Spell Pen line; not enough feats to spare, IMHO. So what to replace them with? Some people like the Mental Toughness feats for the extra spell pts and +1% crit chance per feat (+3% total). On a first-life build, I prefer to focus on DCs first (i.e., Spell Focus, Great CHA) or survivability boosts (e.g., Toughness, Force of Personality).
• No caster should focus on only one element, because there are always going to be mobs which are immune to it. So don't forget to pick up non-fire spells like the Missile spells and possibly invest in Earth or Air Savant to backup your fire spells with acid or lightning, respectively.

Archers

Right now fighters are...not great for archers, IMHO. You get a ton of free feats, obviously, but Kensei isn't as good as Arcane Archer (AA) + Deepwood Stalker (DWS), IMO. You're also missing a couple of important feats, like Improved Precise Shot (IPS) and Combat Archery. See my Elven Ranger thread for examples of DEX-based pure rgrs.

[LookMyName]

Hi, welcome to DDO.

Since you didn't post your Enhancements (PrEs) nor [URL="http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Destinies"]

Archers

Right now fighters are...not great for archers, IMHO. You get a ton of free feats, obviously, but Kensei isn't as good as Arcane Archer (AA) + Deepwood Stalker (DWS), IMO. You're also missing a couple of important feats, like Improved Precise Shot (IPS) and Combat Archery. See my Elven Ranger thread for examples of DEX-based pure rgrs.

Thank you! And big thanks for the reply.

About that... it's just that i rolled an well optimized build (Redsonja), she was a beast, but you know... i wanna focus more on the defining points of a class instead of getting every weak-spot covered.

I wanna play a class like the devs intended too, like a Mechanic who's is not a DPS Machine with Manyshot, Precision Stacks plus a splash from bard granting even more DPS through songs and what more you can add.

I wanna play a Mechanic who is... a mechanic, a guy focused on disabling traps (Nimble Fingers) locating them (Alertness) and when the time comes use his favored weapon (Great Crossbow with Weapon Focus and Improved Critical: Ranged) being able to maintan the peace (Rapid Reload) and being evasive to protect his a** (Dodge, Mobility and if possible Shot on the Run)....

(The official one needed a drop on Alertness and trading it for PBShot)

....

My biggest question is: Is it possible to get to the end game, with a playstyle like that? Actually not chosing the optimal path in sake of the playstyle? Or i i'll just ruin an Epic run for everybody?

....

About the enchancements: You just need to make sure to pick everthing of your chosen path, the order is more to personal taste.
About the Kensei... i lost him, well not gonna spend another full afternoon on him, i decided to create more builds.

At the moment i have:

Air Savant
Wizard Eldritch Knight
Fire Savant
Water Savant
Sorcerer Eldritch Knight
Swashbuckler
Earth Savant
Mechanic
Assassin
Thief-Acrobat
Nature Warrior.

[Kentpb]

Sup !!

New on the forum, well let me get to the point. I'm making builds (Almost 8 by now) based on the enchantments trees and theyr playstyles, focusing on the pros of the enchantment tree only.

All of them remain faithful, they focus on the strongest bonuses of the path chosen, theyre NOT optimal, but they sure create a unique playstyle..

Hi LookMyName IMO what you are doing is great if you want to see what a focus path toon looks like then do it after all this is a role playing game and should be fun for you any way you like it. In fact in my thread "kent's custom builds" I do builds based on some peoples requested play styles not just the Flavor of the month or what is thought to be optimal so that being said I would love to see your take on these builds and give and see any input people give for them. As to your Air Savant I agree with unbongwah that no Spell pen is needed for it and would go with the Spell Focus Evocation feats

[Kentpb]

About the enchantments: You can only use your chosen path tree and your race enchantment trees, the order is not important.

I think you should put your enchantment picks because you can't get all of them from one tree and your race tree and some would be left out and what you left out could make or break the build so to see a fully conceived build you need them posted

[LookMyName]

I think you should put your enchantment picks because you can't get all of them from one tree and your race tree and some would be left out and what you left out could make or break the build so to see a fully conceived build you need them posted

Thanks for the first post! And to replying.

Well... if what you say is true and the player can't get all the enchantments in one tree... then all my builds need to be remade. xD

[Kentpb]

Thanks for the first post! And to replying.

Well... if what you say is true and the player can't get all the enchantments in one tree... then all my builds need to be remade. xD

To be clear you can get all in the class but then miss some in the race or vice versa so the question is what do you leve out

[LookMyName]

To be clear you can get all in the class but then miss some in the race or vice versa so the question is what do you leve out

The race tree, but you're right the if i post another build i'll do completely.