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    Default Armor, Helms, and Weapons: What would you like to see tweaked for new items?

    There have been some threads about cosmetics and armor colors so I wanted to get player feedback for our artists. I have two questions for players:

    ~ If you could take an in game armor, helm, or weapon and change the color on it or change some details about it and put the look into the game as a new item or cosmetic, what items would you like to see tweaked?

    ~ If you could have an entirely new armor set, helm, or weapon what would you want to see in game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    There have been some threads about cosmetics and armor colors so I wanted to get player feedback for our artists. I have two questions for players:

    ~ If you could take an in game armor, helm, or weapon and change the color on it or change some details about it and put the look into the game as a new item or cosmetic, what items would you like to see tweaked?

    ~ If you could have an entirely new armor set, helm, or weapon what would you want to see in game?

    Sev~
    i know cosmetics are huge in any game. sometimes there is nothing we can find to make ourselves look "great" in our eyes. i guess when i look at armor or even a new cosmetic set i look for fantasy value since we are playing a game like that. im not talking sets like a maid outfit or anything like that. just more battle ready type i guess. look at skyrim and rift you will always see a variety of cosmetic armors/mods.

    i guess i get tired of getting an armor and it has one pauldron. where are the armors with 2? where is the wilderness type outfits or savage type? they don't have to be sexual either. cosmetics always sell. we all know that. if we find that look we love. we will buy it. so i guess for me if i have a barbarian or fighter. i want intimidating armors/blood thirsty type. or hell even look like conan the barbarian. lol.

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    I would like to change a detail on this: http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Purple_Dragon_Armor

    This is a very useful armor at level, but the single giant shoulder pad and the plunging neckline look awful. It doesn't look like practical heavy armor.

    Things I would like to see players get access to:

    - Armor appearances and hairstyles used by the drow in Menace of the Underdark.

    - Spears and scythes.

    - Armor appearances with an Asian theme, such as samurai armor.

    - Helms that looks like the skulls of various monsters, such as dragons, dire bears, griffons, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    There have been some threads about cosmetics and armor colors so I wanted to get player feedback for our artists. I have two questions for players:

    ~ If you could take an in game armor, helm, or weapon and change the color on it or change some details about it and put the look into the game as a new item or cosmetic, what items would you like to see tweaked?

    ~ If you could have an entirely new armor set, helm, or weapon what would you want to see in game?

    Sev~
    1) I'd like to see all of the old cosmetic armor kits updated to the new cosmetic slots.
    2) I'd like to see a 'seamstress' needle' to unpick my old cosmetic armor kit from the base armor to be used on a new armor, similar to the way in which a jeweler's toolkit works for augments.

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    Simple, practical & elegant appearance, less extraneous spiky bits, curls, ridiculous pauldrons, etc. A few off the top of my head which look good are the new leopard's chill scimitar, the cormyrian bastard sword, that heavy chain look docent for warforged, that kind of thing. i also like some of the colourful ones, like renard's/lucky green hat, the elocator's habilment, and used to see the occasional brigandine with a colourful samurai-type look.
    I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was, now what's it is weird and scary to me.

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    - I don't have any particular attachment or suggestions into the design of any in-game item (except the Cloth of the Faithful, I run around with that permanently glamored), but one thing I'd love to see implemented are cloaks. Cloaks are awesome, and running around with a cloak flowing behind you is also awesome.

    - As far as items, I personally enjoy any item that I can base a build around in an interesting way or provides a unique feature. A pale master vampire with Epic Envenomed Blade for a level draining build, a Shiradi swashbuckling thrower with Snowstar for a massive crit range, Lantern Ring for spellcasters, and the Epic Spinal Tap sword for a con drain build (though I haven't gotten around to a build for this one yet) are all examples of things I like and keep me interested in the game (and also make me buy the packs that these items are in).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirilan View Post
    1) I'd like to see all of the old cosmetic armor kits updated to the new cosmetic slots.
    2) I'd like to see a 'seamstress' needle' to unpick my old cosmetic armor kit from the base armor to be used on a new armor, similar to the way in which a jeweler's toolkit works for augments.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirilan View Post
    1) I'd like to see all of the old cosmetic armor kits updated to the new cosmetic slots.
    ^This. I have an old armor kit on a suit of dragontouched armor that I'm never going to use again, but I LOVE the look of the armor kit. Sadly, it was left out of the update to cosmetics fitting into slots...

    I would gladly spend TP to buy an updated version of that armor kit that fits into the cosmetic slot. You already have the artwork and have already worked out the process of changing the old kits into the new slottable cosmetics (You must have since some of the old kits actually were recreated into the new type of cosmetics). So, it bewilders me why all the old armor kits haven't been updated to the new cosmetic system already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyrecono View Post



    i see what you mean

    a bit more barbaric would be nice






    basically i would like to see equal opportunity for the male barbs and no more layer uppon layer upon layer of plating or that terrible looking fur/grass skirt thing.

    As for the plate armors, we own millions of plat, why are we running around in armor sets made out of 6 different sets? i understand how this is a thing at low level but at 28? really?

    why not create a bunch of sets for each of the factions (mage robes. monk clothing, light, medium and heavy and warforged)

    every update forgets the poor warforged.....



    Wow, necro thread.....

    1, steampunk gear,
    2, barechested conan/heman/boris Vallejo style barbarian looks, including the muscle mass,
    3, bare chested tattoo-ed monk look,
    4, more wf and bf cosmetics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    There have been some threads about cosmetics and armor colors so I wanted to get player feedback for our artists. I have two questions for players:

    ~ If you could take an in game armor, helm, or weapon and change the color on it or change some details about it and put the look into the game as a new item or cosmetic, what items would you like to see tweaked?

    ~ If you could have an entirely new armor set, helm, or weapon what would you want to see in game?

    Sev~
    I would like the shoulder piece removed from the Elemental Mithral Breastplate. Or at least make both shoulders match. I'm using this armor right now. Handsome armor and I would otherwise glamor it for my toon, if it was not for the silly side piece on the shoulder.

    In response to the second question, I would love to see more variety. I have no prefernce other than more options please and ty. IMO most the cosmetic armors in the DDO store are ugly. More variety would be nice, because everyone seems to wear the same few nice ones.

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    I could go on for a while on this topic, so I'm just going to give a few bullet points on where I feel DDO's armors have gone astray.
    • Give the armors more symmetry.
    • Please make female armor less lingerie looking... make it more practical looking. A bare midriff is not practical armor.
    • Please break away from the Skull fetish on armors. It's lost it's appeal, and has been done to death.
    • Please choose a more appealing color palate. Many of the armors in this game have a problem simply because their color-choices are unappealing. (some of them on purpose from prior complaints on that very topic)Bold, dynamic, and complementary colors are best.
    • Please, on light armors, try to get away from the cobbled-together look that some of them have.
    • Lastly, and this is a big one, just painting a design on the base model should NEVER happen, and have it be passed off as "cosmetic". Look at the Pirate themed outfit for the worst example of this. However, many, many cosmetic armors have zero attachments that make them look like actual armor or clothing - and just look like Underoos.



    As I said, I could go on for a while on the subject - but those are the worst offenders.


    P.S. Bring back Elven Chain! Or at least the hybrid robe/chain graphics. Some of em looked goofy as hell - but they were amazing.
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    As for a weapon I'd like to see in the game, and it's been requested countless times since launch: Spears.
    Spears, even a Short Spear, would make many people amazingly happy.


    A few of the weapons from the Eberron sourcebook would also be fantastic, like the Valenar Double-Scimitar. The Xen'drik and Talenta boomerangs would make for fantastic new throwing weapons, and not take much work beyond the graphics and would give more Blunt throwing options.

    Beyond that - more options in random generated weapons would be awesome. I can't think of the last time new looks for non-named weapons were added to the game. It's been years. Go down the weapon list - and come up with two new looks for each type. Not many, but enough to give weapon looks a nice boost. If you make them look badass enough, I wager it'd increase Mirror sales, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    As for a weapon I'd like to see in the game, and it's been requested countless times since launch: Spears.
    Spears, even a Short Spear, would make many people amazingly happy.
    I've been using Spear of the Chieftain on my acrobat and having a blast because it.is.a.spear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    There have been some threads about cosmetics and armor colors so I wanted to get player feedback for our artists. I have two questions for players:

    ~ If you could take an in game armor, helm, or weapon and change the color on it or change some details about it and put the look into the game as a new item or cosmetic, what items would you like to see tweaked?

    ~ If you could have an entirely new armor set, helm, or weapon what would you want to see in game?

    Sev~
    First a side note, I understand the monumental task it would be to create new animations and art work for cloaks, but I would spend several hundred Turbine Points to have even a few basic cloaks added to the game.

    There is an issue with a lot of the in game artwork when it comes to armor, the artwork lakes depth or weight if it were. It makes you character appear to be wearing paper thin armor. For years I kept five suits of armor (all mithral) because they showed a bulk the other armors do not show in hopes that something like the mirror of glimmering would come along, and after a few issues I am not disappointed.
    This fault does not just hit heavy armor, but leather, chain, banded, half-plate, and so on and so forth all need some loving, I mean tweaking to be better.

    Originally there were a decent number of okay armor sets when the game was released in 2006/07 that seem to have been dropped from the loot tables, many of these older armor sets are, IMHO, better looking then what replaced them. Very true in the light armors, the all black chain or the death leathers or ... I would love to see those brought back. I am guessing they dropped due to the new races but one never knows.

    Beyond the depth of the armor my next complaint would be the number of armor that use skulls as decoration, I don't mind the occasional skull, but when it seems like 90 percent of the armors have flattened skulls on them its a bit depressing for your lawful good paladin.

    When it comes to nature oriented armor - think woodland barbarian motif - there isn't a whole lot of choice currently, two or three basic armors with a couple of colors each, none of which really inspire praise.

    I personally would like to see racial armor, you know a specific armor design that highlights a specific race, Halfling only, dwarf only, half-orc only, dragonbourne only, and so on and so forth, I wouldn't cry many tears if that happened.

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    Default Crossbows

    It would also be nice to be able to glamor crossbows. Allot of them are ugly and I would like to glamor the Alchemical Light Repeater.

    Everyone else gets to glamor their weapons but these:

    Note: Does not function on bows, shields, crossbows, handwraps, or thrown weapons.

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Glamered_Weapon_Aura

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldyGopher View Post
    First a side note, I understand the monumental task it would be to create new animations and art work for cloaks, but I would spend several hundred Turbine Points to have even a few basic cloaks added to the game.
    I would easily drop 500tp or more on a basic cloak animation cosmetic with perhaps 2-3 color options. A big fur cloak, ala Night's Watch in Game of Thrones, would be insanely cool.
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    Oh! How about a suit of light armor with a quiver and scabbard on the back? Maybe a couple small packs on the belt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldyGopher View Post
    First a side note, I understand the monumental task it would be to create new animations and art work for cloaks, but I would spend several hundred Turbine Points to have even a few basic cloaks added to the game.

    There is an issue with a lot of the in game artwork when it comes to armor, the artwork lakes depth or weight if it were. It makes you character appear to be wearing paper thin armor. For years I kept five suits of armor (all mithral) because they showed a bulk the other armors do not show in hopes that something like the mirror of glimmering would come along, and after a few issues I am not disappointed.
    This fault does not just hit heavy armor, but leather, chain, banded, half-plate, and so on and so forth all need some loving, I mean tweaking to be better.

    Originally there were a decent number of okay armor sets when the game was released in 2006/07 that seem to have been dropped from the loot tables, many of these older armor sets are, IMHO, better looking then what replaced them. Very true in the light armors, the all black chain or the death leathers or ... I would love to see those brought back. I am guessing they dropped due to the new races but one never knows.

    Beyond the depth of the armor my next complaint would be the number of armor that use skulls as decoration, I don't mind the occasional skull, but when it seems like 90 percent of the armors have flattened skulls on them its a bit depressing for your lawful good paladin.

    When it comes to nature oriented armor - think woodland barbarian motif - there isn't a whole lot of choice currently, two or three basic armors with a couple of colors each, none of which really inspire praise.

    I personally would like to see racial armor, you know a specific armor design that highlights a specific race, Halfling only, dwarf only, half-orc only, dragonbourne only, and so on and so forth, I wouldn't cry many tears if that happened.
    /+1 I totally second that:

    1. I would also buy Cloaks, even if they would cost >1000TP
    2. Armor appearance look indeed often more like body painting and lack depth and often to extravagant and fency. How about a classical lion pattern or monk look? If color how about some gingham or dirndl look? Heck in ESO you even can dress as a cook.
    3. Use less skulls and spikes
    4. If you want to go full color to make something outstanding then where is the equivalent to the pink Quorforged Docent of Battle or a orange dress (A guild member always complaint my halfling cleric is too small and too easy overlooked)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    There have been some threads about cosmetics and armor colors so I wanted to get player feedback for our artists. I have two questions for players:

    ~ If you could take an in game armor, helm, or weapon and change the color on it or change some details about it and put the look into the game as a new item or cosmetic, what items would you like to see tweaked?

    ~ If you could have an entirely new armor set, helm, or weapon what would you want to see in game?

    Sev~
    Entire new armor set - Samuraii or rather Japanese from light to heavy with armor kits giving it a Japanese look. The helmet of course could be the very elaborate ones with demon face mask.

    Another one would be classic Medieval armor. Full with helmet. Again, with following armor kit that makes spears look like halberds, swords like the Flambere etc.

    There are also your typical Middle East, or persian look to armor with solid scale and a more pointed helmet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    There have been some threads about cosmetics and armor colors so I wanted to get player feedback for our artists. I have two questions for players:

    ~ If you could take an in game armor, helm, or weapon and change the color on it or change some details about it and put the look into the game as a new item or cosmetic, what items would you like to see tweaked?

    ~ If you could have an entirely new armor set, helm, or weapon what would you want to see in game?

    Sev~
    I would like to see the old mithral full plate skins brought back as cosmetics. No armour has ever looked better than some of those fullplates.

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