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    Community Member Garix's Avatar
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    Default AA or DWS Capstone?

    Levelling my Ranger back up at the moment and trying to figure out which is going to be the better fit.

    20% Doubleshot vs 20 Ranged Power + always in PBS/SA range.

    Already know I'm going T5 in DWS but not sure which capstone to grab.

    Leaning towards DWS but unsure at the moment..

    Thoughts?
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    I'm afraid you have to provide some additional info... May I guess you're going for pure archer ranger? No splashes? No melee/ranged hybrids?
    I'd pile on doubleshot. Between AA Capstone, DWS T5, Killer, past lives, epic destiny feats, and gear you can easily get almost to 100% base doubleshot, and Ranged Power should not be a problem, especially if you plan to blitz.
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    I've updated my elven ranger thread and tried to grapple with this issue myself. My hunch is AA capstone is better for full-time archer, but APs are pretty tight; you're almost "locked" into 41 AA / 39 DWS split if you want T5 DWS. And if you go 41 APs DWS 31 APs AA (Shadow Arrows), that leaves 8 APs free for, say, Tempest so you can perk up your melee DPS a bit as a backup; or invest in Harper for KtA + Versatile Adept (extra Ranged / Melee Power). EDIT: human rgr can do 1 AP for Dmg Boost 7 APs Harper for KtA.

    EDIT: I think the deciding factor is whether AA capstone pushes you past 200% Doubleshot while Manyshot is active; if it does, then I would definitely want that for guaranteed double-procs minimum from MS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garix View Post
    Levelling my Ranger back up at the moment and trying to figure out which is going to be the better fit.

    20% Doubleshot vs 20 Ranged Power + always in PBS/SA range.

    Already know I'm going T5 in DWS but not sure which capstone to grab.

    Leaning towards DWS but unsure at the moment..

    Thoughts?
    Speculation, but PBS (double damage) + SA (scales with Ranged Power, I think) + 20 Ranged Power (which is multiplicative) should be more DPS than 20% Double Shot. Then again, gear and PL's may be the deciding factor.
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    Easy answer is if your aim is to do 6+ dice (my toon does 9 dice) of sneak damage + any other sources of sneak damage, go for the DWS capstone.

    If you don't care much about the sneak attack dice damage, go with the AA capstone.
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    IMO the real question is related to AP spent in tree. Stalker has a lot of good stuff you can easily get it to 41 points and want a bit more. That's not the case for AA especially if you don't take any tier 5's.

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    As it stands right now, I'd go with DWS for the PBS/SA. However, remember that the revamp of the AA tree is NOT finished yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbyssalMage View Post
    Speculation, but PBS (double damage) + SA (scales with Ranged Power, I think) + 20 Ranged Power (which is multiplicative) should be more DPS than 20% Double Shot.
    Uhh, PBS doesn't do "double damage," it adds +1[W] to your base dmg, which is +4.5 per hit avg with most longbows (+7 w/Pinion).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha5440 View Post
    However, remember that the revamp of the AA tree is NOT finished yet.
    I hope you're right. But...

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