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[cdbd3rd]

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Is that Hobbit feet I smell?

[Grinthane]

Seems like we're operating in the dark here, regarding what this patch is actually about. Do we know for sure that it is the dreaded nerf-wave? That's a pretty big change to squeeze into a patch rather than a full update, especially so quickly. I'll repeat my earlier plea (hopefully not completely in vain) to not release something so big until they get the fine-tuning right--like, for example, not destroying already low-powered quarterstaffs, or undoing the light melee weapon balance they created with swashbuckling. (And it's xbows that need holy sword-nerfing, not TWFs and shields!)

Thank you, I was starting to feel like I was the only one not knowing what was going on. While I admit some characters are op I usually use them for gear farming. Even those toons have a hard time on elite though, which is fine, keeps me humble. Quite often I am unclear as to what is being done until I do check the forums then I get the light bulb.
As far as nerfing, meh, the game is still fun so I don't really mind as I do tend to get bored with my op toons. Still have 15 others to fall back on with my main server, I am working on it on my other servers tee hee.
I am just very happy ddo gives me something to do so I do not become a typical stay at home mom eating bon bons and watching talk shows (love you neighbor but I really don't care she does not know who the father is)

[Grinthane]

Hi

hello to you also. Are you just checking to see if anyone responds. Am I just checking to see if you respond to my response, possibilities are endless and the mind boggles.

[rockingsuphastar]

hello to you also. Are you just checking to see if anyone responds. Am I just checking to see if you respond to my response, possibilities are endless and the mind boggles.

how much time left for servers to be up ? is it 8.20am or 12.25pm?

[Grinthane]

I haven't mocked anybody. I just pointed out that the balance pass is here and some of those players who kept talking about how easy the game is for months suggesting a variety of changes are now saying they will quit, cancel VIP, not play, feel forced to buy hearts of wood, feel forced into a different build, demand their time and money spent to be given back. I know not everybody is going to agree with balance changes and I even pointed out that I don't agree with all of it, but character power has been growing too long and too fast. it needed to slow down for the better of the game. its going to take some getting used to not seeing such high dps numbers, but its going to affect all melee builds across the board in a variety of ways.

I cant really speak on dev testing because they wont talk about specifics, but I reading these threads on how much dps and how fast players dps on a kobold is only a small portion of a characters power. environment testing in a variety of group settings is where you get more accurate numbers. math formulas is a good start, but it doesn't tell you the variables in an environment making it incomplete data.

I think communication has been great. as delicate as this pass is, ive seen Sev post a lot lately. he encourages us to log onto Lama and test things and tries to explain the changes.

yep, a common thing to happen in DDO. we tell the devs too much power and it takes a long time before they finally address it. its good though that they do address it eventually rather than never, right? now if they could react to the power creep and bugs and whatnot faster than they do we would have a lot less griping I think.

You seem to be getting seen so I am gonna use you. Thanks for that. I honestly am a glass half full kind of person, and i adjust to changes good or bad. There are some things I would do differently, but meh, ultimately I am very happy with ddo overall. I know I may be alone on this but I don't care, instead of a heart of wood or a coupon for free ice cream, I would really like to have a psuedo dragon, so if they could be available in the store that would be wonderful, ooooo and the wizard hat like elminster. I did not have the money at the time to get the uber pre order, so while I got some of the shinies for a pre order I did not get the shiniest of the shines.
Thank you

[Grinthane]

how much time left for servers to be up ? is it 8.20am or 12.25pm?

good question, I know one thing I can do during downtime, I can rearrange furniture so my cat gets a new adventure as well. I will increase the difficulty level to jump from the dresser to the bookshelf.

[BankCoffer]

good question, I know one thing I can do during downtime, I can rearrange furniture so my cat gets a new adventure as well. I will increase the difficulty level to jump from the dresser to the bookshelf.

No, no, no. What you need to do is perform a balance pass on the cat by declawing it and docking its tail. That will be better for the cat and more fun for all.

[Mojo_d]

good question, I know one thing I can do during downtime, I can rearrange furniture so my cat gets a new adventure as well. I will increase the difficulty level to jump from the dresser to the bookshelf.

you're gonna have to do a whole lot more to occupy yourself for these 8 torturing downtime hours :P

Also,about the update,when I first saw the balanced changes thread,I got panicked and angry,nerfing all those things.Then I calmed down and thought that for every problem there's a solution,and like every update,there will be ppl who will crunch the numbers,and make awesome builds out of these changes for the rest of the mortals in this game,like me.And if people start complaining about their toons being nerfed much,well they can always tr into a broken build like tree or wolf,that are unaffected by the changes as it seems.And this time it will not be on us using these builds,but on devs concentrating in the wrong nerfs :P

[Grinthane]

No, no, no. What you need to do is perform a balance pass on the cat by declawing it and docking its tail. That will be better for the cat and more fun for all.

would make bath time easier. I do have other stuff to do around house and son's birthday to get ready for. Epic difficulty, he is a preteen.

[kned225]

you're gonna have to do a whole lot more to occupy yourself for these 8 torturing downtime hours

I don't have this problem because I go to work

[Draeqo]

You've GOT TO BE KIDDING ME?!?
2 days for balance changes to be tested on lamannia?
Can you guys please start listening to players? A balance patch with this many ramifications shouldn't be rushed out the door. I beg you to listen to your playerbase for once.

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I thought that this was to release: "to release Update 28 Patch 1 and the new DDO Store."

Patching things like the vanishing player's icons in the LFM window, especially since U28 came live...
And not already the balance changes (and AA changes), I thought that was still being discussed and still in preview.

I may be wrong of course, we will know when we see the release notes (or a reaction from the DDO team).

[Mojo_d]

I don't have this problem because I go to work

and you want a medal for that?here,take a candy.wasnt even replying on a post of yours.

[Cordovan]

Release Notes are up.

[Uska]

just as gimped as the next guy does not mean equally gimped. im not going to play forum word games.

Just as is the same thing as equally at least to any one I know

[jalont]

Release Notes are up.

Almost but not quite.

[Uska]

They won't listen to the playerbase because they are more interested in nerfing everything. And with this patch starts the death of DDO it was fun while it lasted.

1. ddo will be here for awhile

2. Its not really nerfing its rolling back some of the powercreep that never should have been done haven't you seen all the threads on how the game is to easy? I would rather they roll us back then beef up the mobs more because then they might have to beef us up again and continue the power creep

[Clemeit]

Release Notes are up.

As of XX:35am, *now* the release notes are up. Thanks!!

[Uska]

So have I.... in other games that continually pulled this kind of sh*t. And they all fell through. Some people have already quit and went to other games and I don't blame them.

they would have left anyways and name one game that is 1% as good

[Clemeit]

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I thought that this was to release: "to release Update 28 Patch 1 and the new DDO Store."

Patching things like the vanishing player's icons in the LFM window, especially since U28 came live...
And not already the balance changes (and AA changes), I thought that was still being discussed and still in preview.

I may be wrong of course, we will know when we see the release notes (or a reaction from the DDO team).

Nope, this is the balancing update. Well, more appropriately, it's the balancing patch. Seemed rushed to you? Yeah, me too. We shall see!

Notes are out: https://www.ddo.com/en/update-28-patch-1-release-notes

[ForumFrenzy]

Ddo is not going anywhere mate, that "death" prediction have been going on for years and there are no evidence to suggest any going concern problem with this game.

No concern, other than a steady shedding of player base that is: http://ddoracle.com/Traffic.html