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    OK, here we go with the nerf pass. I think I will stock myself with enough popcorn. Will get funny the next days when those not checking in on the forums regularly and not thoroughly testing Lam before updates will find out their shiny builds and hard earned WLs will stop to shine.

    We people critical to the nerf pass were vocal the last days. All is said now. Now let the protest games begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duhboy View Post
    They won't listen to the playerbase because they are more interested in nerfing everything. And with this patch starts the death of DDO it was fun while it lasted.
    Ddo is not going anywhere mate, that "death" prediction have been going on for years and there are no evidence to suggest any going concern problem with this game.

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    "We will Balance this game with EXTREME PREJUDICE!!!!"

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    I don't think this patch will be good. I think it should've been postponed. I don't understand how they still go through with it after the backlash it got from everyone. Although, maybe the forums ended up being as vocal as usual... Maybe someone from Turbine can express why 18.1 is still green lighted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothdom View Post
    I don't think this patch will be good. I think it should've been postponed. I don't understand how they still go through with it after the backlash it got from everyone. Although, maybe the forums ended up being as vocal as usual... Maybe someone from Turbine can express why 18.1 is still green lighted?

    Oh Contrare!!!! I think this patch is great. They knew there would be backlash....I knew there would be backlash. Fact is, this is necessary to extend the longevity of DDO. People want "God Mode" but then stop playing when they achieve "God Mode" because there is no more challenge.

    Regardless of how many people say "I'm Done", "I'm quitting", "I'ma find me another game"...etc...they all realize there is absolutely nothing out there remotely similar to DDO...so...most will be back....trying to get back to "God Mode". 6-weeks from now, the hysteria will die down and DDO will be healthier for it.

    Good work Devs...we'll see ya in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmits View Post
    They are uploaded 1-2 hours after patch hits live. Always has been this way. Personally I'd prefer if we were informed about them during downtime.
    I agree that it would be nice to have the notes posted during downtime
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    Quote Originally Posted by brzytki View Post
    I laugh everytime I read "they NERFED blitz!!!!oneone!!". I mean it's an epic MOMENT that you can now keep up through an entire quest doing absolutely nothing but hitting the mobs. Almost every other epic moment has 30 sec duration, 5 minutes cooldown with measures preventing another activation within that time or number of uses per rest. You cry that you do 5-10% damage less (if even) but completely overlook the fact that it's the single epic moment you can easily maintain throught the whole quest. What's more, there was an outcry of people before saying that they can't Blitz thought the whole quest and what did the Devs do? They upped the initial counter when activating.

    Just compare the version of Blitz right after MotU was released and todays' one. It's so laughable.


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    ...mabar is coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinggartk View Post
    Oh Contrare!!!! I think this patch is great. They knew there would be backlash....I knew there would be backlash. Fact is, this is necessary to extend the longevity of DDO. People want "God Mode" but then stop playing when they achieve "God Mode" because there is no more challenge.

    Regardless of how many people say "I'm Done", "I'm quitting", "I'ma find me another game"...etc...they all realize there is absolutely nothing out there remotely similar to DDO...so...most will be back....trying to get back to "God Mode". 6-weeks from now, the hysteria will die down and DDO will be healthier for it.

    Good work Devs...we'll see ya in game.
    100% agreed. Looking forward to patch in game. It's about time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemeit View Post
    Huge new feat options for fighters.

    I'd really like to see a Lesser Heart in my inventory when I log back in... I don't think we should all have to buy them when so much is being changed.
    Severlin has indicated that there will be a coupon to be able to get 2 +5 lesser hearts for free from the (new) store. The reason they don't put things directly in our inventory anymore, as I recall, is that there were too many people that would log in after a long hiatus and find their packs over-flowing and be unable to access the newest things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmits View Post
    They are uploaded 1-2 hours after patch hits live. Always has been this way. Personally I'd prefer if we were informed about them during downtime.
    I'm trying to get a copy of them before the patch so that I can go over them on https://twitch.tv/ddostream during the downtime. My fingers are crossed that I can get something ahead of time for that purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuttamia View Post
    Ddo is not going anywhere mate, that "death" prediction have been going on for years and there are no evidence to suggest any going concern problem with this game.
    Just remember, if nerfs such as this make people unhappy (and I know quite a few that are), sooner or later the proverbial "Straw that broke the camels back" will be reached, and the servers will be even more sparsely populated than they are now, and any game will lot survive long with less and less paying players....

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    Quote Originally Posted by brzytki View Post
    I laugh everytime I read "they NERFED blitz!!!!oneone!!". I mean it's an epic MOMENT that you can now keep up through an entire quest doing absolutely nothing but hitting the mobs. Almost every other epic moment has 30 sec duration, 5 minutes cooldown with measures preventing another activation within that time or number of uses per rest. You cry that you do 5-10% damage less (if even) but completely overlook the fact that it's the single epic moment you can easily maintain throught the whole quest. What's more, there was an outcry of people before saying that they can't Blitz thought the whole quest and what did the Devs do? They upped the initial counter when activating.

    Just compare the version of Blitz right after MotU was released and todays' one. It's so laughable.
    Well I had no problems with my blitz staying alive before the NERF. I invested in double strike and speed with off hand attacks. built up stacks no problem.
    so what did they do, remember the thread, increase everyone's base damage power... again because people were crying "I cant kill enough mobs cos your blitzing"
    I am really getting tired of coming here and reading all these people getting upset and requesting nerfs. No wonder the devs get irritated all the time.
    leave the classes as they are and boost the classes that are way behind. like monks and clerics.

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    Welcome Frelorn!

    Where is Cordovan?

    Unless we can have more than one community manager.

    I now understand Sevs posts on adjusting weapon crit ranges for nameds. But I am curious if it affects old, or just new.

    I think it is a bad compromise to give holy sword back to ranged, but then again, the numbers were pretty poor for ranged combat.

    Hopefully things roll out without crashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seikojin View Post
    Welcome Frelorn!

    Where is Cordovan?

    Unless we can have more than one community manager.

    I now understand Sevs posts on adjusting weapon crit ranges for nameds. But I am curious if it affects old, or just new.

    I think it is a bad compromise to give holy sword back to ranged, but then again, the numbers were pretty poor for ranged combat.

    Hopefully things roll out without crashes.
    I believe that Cordovan is out of the office on business this week and Frelorn is filling in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duhboy View Post
    They won't listen to the playerbase because they are more interested in nerfing everything. And with this patch starts the death of DDO it was fun while it lasted.
    It isn't the death, but it is subscribers lost.. and at this point we are getting pretty slim on those around here... A game fix is supposed to make like better, yes you have the people it does not affect and the nodders who like to see the more powerful nerfed, but in the end you have a lot of players and invested time (and money) who just got the Turbine 'Too Bad' we made the change and already got your money so you can quit now if you want.

    No I am not leaving but i am sad that I do know people who are angry and plan to leave (ok, i'm a little happy to see at least 1 person go). I do have around 5 or 6 toons pretty severely affected (I like flavor of the month toons) where 2 +5 Heart's is simply not enough to fix them. I know I am done spending money in the store (and I do spend quite a bit) because I don't feel I should pay to make changes to something I spent so much time on the first time around that is now broken because someone else changed their mind.

    There is a middle ground to appease the player-base and Fred for 5 days isn't it. Throw us a carrot, an LR+5 won't fix anything a +3 wouldn't fix (you splash either 2 or 6), what about Fred for 30 days and a coupon for 4 +3 LR's? It doesn't solve all my problems and it still takes my time to make the changes, but it shows that you care about the larger accounts with 20+ playing toons as well as that person who has 1 toon. They can use 1 heart on a 2 level splash or 2 for a 6 level splash. Hey they can use all 4 to remove a 12 level splash if need be, it isn't a +20 for everyone but hey the 95% of build really shouldn't need a +20 (they just want them).
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    any reason behind lossing the weapon melee power on TWF,
    feels like another nerf to my monk to me.

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    Seems like we're operating in the dark here, regarding what this patch is actually about. Do we know for sure that it is the dreaded nerf-wave? That's a pretty big change to squeeze into a patch rather than a full update, especially so quickly. I'll repeat my earlier plea (hopefully not completely in vain) to not release something so big until they get the fine-tuning right--like, for example, not destroying already low-powered quarterstaffs, or undoing the light melee weapon balance they created with swashbuckling. (And it's xbows that need holy sword-nerfing, not TWFs and shields!)

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    Hmmmm.... Name sounds familiar.

    Let then know they haven't posted the release notes. I'll be online tonight for a time. Working a lot. See ya later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skdjfsdlkfjslkfjs View Post
    You've GOT TO BE KIDDING ME?!?

    2 days for balance changes to be tested on lamannia?
    (My underline for emphasis)

    You haven't gotten the memo yet. Lamannia isn't a test server, it's a preview server. What you see is what you get, no testing is needed.


    Quote Originally Posted by Clemeit View Post
    Huge new feat options for fighters.
    They aren't really options. They are a Feat tax on the sole class which has only Feats as a class ability.

    This is going to be a huge train wreck. I wonder why this "balance pass" had to be implemented with such reckless haste when there are still a large number of classes who haven't received their balance pass yet, and the tentative schedule for those extends two+ years into the future?

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