Attack spped: SWF twitch vs TWF

[BigErkyKid]

Dear forumites,


I was wondering if someone had counted the APS of a twitching SWF. My suspicion is that it is not far behind the number of attacks with TWF, plus in addition it allows (encourages?) you to move around. I think it is well known that hit boxes and attack speed with TWF are a bit messed up while moving. Has someone checked it up?

Thanks!

[maddong]

The running swf animation attacks at the same speed as the standing still animation until you add alacrity. Standing swf gains 13% speed for every 10% alacrity. Running swf gains 17% attack rate for every 10% alacrity.

Twf I believe is about 10% per 10% standing but all melee styles get the 17% running but has the bad hit box.

So swf can gain significantly running. A 75% alacrity with haste boost running would get 2.27 x the attacks of 0 alacrity.

Twf with 80% offhand and 45% alacrity standing still will still get more attacks at about 2.61 x attacks of 0 alacrity swf.

[BigErkyKid]

The running swf animation attacks at the same speed as the standing still animation until you add alacrity. Standing swf gains 13% speed for every 10% alacrity. Running swf gains 17% attack rate for every 10% alacrity.

Twf I believe is about 10% per 10% standing but all melee styles get the 17% running but has the bad hit box.

So swf can gain significantly running. A 75% alacrity with haste boost running would get 2.27 x the attacks of 0 alacrity.

Twf with 80% offhand and 45% alacrity standing still will still get more attacks at about 2.61 x attacks of 0 alacrity swf.

Thanks, that's pretty helpful! You are referring to main hand? This is the latest I found on it:

APS: 2.40|1.53 = 3.92 (main and off hand)

From this thread:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...es-Comparison?

[Infiltraitor]

I'm not sure those attack per second numbers are accurate. They likely include double strike.
This is what I got for non-twitch. Nowhere near 3.1 aps.

SWF Attack Speed: 2.34
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80 hits per 40 seconds unhasted SWF = 2.0
100 hits per 42.6 seconds haste = 2.34
56 hits per 20 seconds hasted + Speed Boost = 2.8

I haven't tested twitch but it is slightly faster.

[maddong]

I'm not sure those attack per second numbers are accurate. They likely include double strike.
This is what I got for non-twitch. Nowhere near 3.1 aps.

SWF Attack Speed: 2.34
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80 hits per 40 seconds unhasted SWF = 2.0
100 hits per 42.6 seconds haste = 2.34
56 hits per 20 seconds hasted + Speed Boost = 2.8

I haven't tested twitch but it is slightly faster.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...tanding-still)

Your unhasted data is at 30 alacrity not 0 alacrity. Haste boost also has a 1 second delay before you start attacking so you only get 19 seconds.

So I get 89 * 1.975 = 175 attacks/min for standing at bab 27 alacrity 75
87.5 * 2.275 = 199 attacks/min not twitching but holding down a movement key at bab 27 alacrity 75
Of course haste boost isn't sustainable for a minute straight (even in LD you will have delays reboosting)....

So running and fully boosted with swf you attack 13.7% faster.