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    Default Dwarven Defender Tree?

    Basically, it's the Elven Arcane Archer concept, except replace Elf with Manly Dorfs, and Arcane Archer with Stalwart Defender.

    Because seriously, the defensive stance, the original version's speed penalty, it's all rather dwarven defender-ish.

    Warforged Juggernauts would be nice too.

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    A loooong time ago, Turbine promised to add more racial PrEs; this was well before the U19 Enhancement overhaul, though, and I haven't seen any mention of them in ages.

    I want dwarves to get Vanguard, which fits thematically with the S&B bonuses in their racial tree. Helloooo, CON-based TYWA S&B Warlock tank!
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    Both vanguard and stalwart fit, although IMO, the fact that the original "Defensive stance" and all that jazz was a dwarf-only Prestige Class............well yeah. In either case, it'd add more to "Race based" builds. Orcs would obviously get Frenzied Berserker because lets face it, the orc tree screams MAKE ME A BARBARIAN

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKW View Post
    Basically, it's the Elven Arcane Archer concept, except replace Elf with Manly Dorfs, and Arcane Archer with Stalwart Defender.

    Because seriously, the defensive stance, the original version's speed penalty, it's all rather dwarven defender-ish.

    Warforged Juggernauts would be nice too.
    I wish they did something with it, today it has to compete with way better class enh that give a bigger bang for your buck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    A loooong time ago, Turbine promised to add more racial PrEs; this was well before the U19 Enhancement overhaul, though, and I haven't seen any mention of them in ages.

    I want dwarves to get Vanguard, which fits thematically with the S&B bonuses in their racial tree. Helloooo, CON-based TYWA S&B Warlock tank!
    ya I remember looking into which race to compliment class and feats. I think halflings were supposed to be assassins, ect. Shame they never did that. would of offered alot more diversity. As it stands if your a mage your probably a robot, if theirs any pally there you a robot, then it's either the h/elf for the tree a dwarf for a crapload of hp or human because you desperately need that one extra feat.
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