Please unbind old shards and seals

[phalaeo]

Would it be that difficult (or unbalanced) to make old epic seals and shards unbound at this point?

A lot of the items are antiquated, or are TR gear for a few levels at best- at this stage in the game's development, I don't think it would be ridiculous to allow them to be traded freely.

[FranOhmsford]

/Signed!

A thousand times /Signed!

And while you're at it Devs please please please do an update on VoN 6/ADQ so:
1) The items are BTA rather than BTC.
And/Or
2) Available in the Epic End Chests {Epic only} of the Flagging Quests!
And
3) Make the Shards more common in the Raid End Chests {Yes I'm looking at you E-SoS with my 2 Swords, 3 Seals and 4 Scrolls But NO Shard!}.

[Kawai]

would rather just see them updated to 30.
same recipe.
same grind.

people worked toooo hard

[HGM-Chi]

would rather just see them updated to 30.
same recipe.
same grind.

people worked toooo hard

Yes, people worked hard for it then, when it was the end game stuff to grind for. You don't want people coming up now to have to do that. You want them to be able to get it much easier, so they can move much more rapidly to the new end game. This way you move your population to the end game quicker and devs can focus their effort there. It doesn't make sense for new people in the game to grind for everything exactly the same way as we had to coming through it.

Honestly, they should be upping drop rates on that stuff, and even just dropping the completed epic items in epic level runs. Let the people moving up get geared quicker for end game, so a larger population is grinding at end game. It just makes sense. You should be able to make a shroud item in about 3 to 5 runs now. Older raids should have complete raid loot lists as a third time end reward.

[Postumus]

Yes, people worked hard for it then, when it was the end game stuff to grind for. You don't want people coming up now to have to do that. You want them to be able to get it much easier,

Absolutely agree. Time to make the Rube Goldberg epic items more accessible to the folks who didn't grind oldentimes epics. 99% those items aren't worth using past level 20 anyway, but unbinding the shards & seals would at least allow more players to use them.

[Turtlsdown]

Yes, people worked hard for it then, when it was the end game stuff to grind for. You don't want people coming up now to have to do that. You want them to be able to get it much easier, so they can move much more rapidly to the new end game. This way you move your population to the end game quicker and devs can focus their effort there. It doesn't make sense for new people in the game to grind for everything exactly the same way as we had to coming through it.

Honestly, they should be upping drop rates on that stuff, and even just dropping the completed epic items in epic level runs. Let the people moving up get geared quicker for end game, so a larger population is grinding at end game. It just makes sense. You should be able to make a shroud item in about 3 to 5 runs now. Older raids should have complete raid loot lists as a third time end reward.

Every other successful MMO I know does this. Why is DDO the only MMO that doesn't get that this is helpful to the game? End game is where all the development should be, and where all the money will be!

[Robbenklopper]

/ Signed

[kain741]

The same issue here is the same one that has people upset about the old Mabar ingredients. There are a few people who have come across way more than they should by less than legitimate methods that basically make this impossible to allow open trading for the masses. While much of the stuff is out of date or a flavor item at best, somebody with a stack of 100 or more SoS shards will look to benefit greatly from opening trade up.

[FifthTime]

The same issue here is the same one that has people upset about the old Mabar ingredients. There are a few people who have come across way more than they should by less than legitimate methods that basically make this impossible to allow open trading for the masses. While much of the stuff is out of date or a flavor item at best, somebody with a stack of 100 or more SoS shards will look to benefit greatly from opening trade up.

Those people have already made a fortune off of everything else that they duped. What is the difference at this point?

Punishing people who never cheated to get back at those that did is a moronic tactic.

[phalaeo]

would rather just see them updated to 30.
same recipe.
same grind.

people worked toooo hard

I see what you're saying, but that would take a ton of development time. And what would we wear at Level 20?

[phalaeo]

Those people have already made a fortune off of everything else that they duped. What is the difference at this point?

Punishing people who never cheated to get back at those that did is a moronic tactic.

For a lot of people, it's about the Shard. I know a guy who did 600 VoNs before he got his... I was in party when he pulled it, and it was glorious.

But... you still need the base item. I've been trying to get the base item on the same character for 4 years.

[Hobgoblin]

pretty please?

[Robai]

There are so many easy buttons and you ask for yet another one.
You also want to destroy one of THE BEST systems in the game IMO.
/not signed, sorry

Bad design:
- new packs have high drop rates (BtA items should have low drop rate)
- after U24 many items lost their value since they drop like rain now
- Wheloon/Storm Horns has items at end reward with 100% drop rate, lol, it's not even random (and some of them are really good items)
- Sand epic scrolls lost their value after adding exchange option (btw, this encourages zerging without kills)

On top of that, Dupapalooza. Making Seals/Shards unbound would hurt the game even deeper (imagine everyone with ESoS and ERoSS, yay, lol).
Farming Seals/Shards is so easy now, you can easily solo farm many things since we have epic destinies/level cap increased and much more powerful toons (it's good that VoN5 is still not soloable) and the only challenging part left for the old epic items is the drop rate (and it's a good thing).

[TrinityTurtle]

would rather just see them updated to 30.
same recipe.
same grind.

people worked toooo hard

So what? Yeah, I worked hard in the past. Who cares? Those days are over, and forcing an ugly grind on quests that aren't played much anymore when there is better gear easier to get in new quests helps no one. Giving people a reason to play more content helps a lot of people, as they have things to do and potentially people to do them with. Further, I'm not opposed to others having nice things to help their survival in quests with me. And I would love to be able to share some of my hoard with some of the newer players.

[Enoach]

I think one of two things needs to occur

1. Unbind Shards and Seals - market will work this out as there could be a flood of these on the market but as they are consumed there will be fewer of them

Part of why is my remembrance of a time when a mishap in code allowed these to be traded.

2. Expand the trade-in to include a Shards and Seals - Should be similar to the Desert Trade in for Scrolls. Maybe with additional cost say Tokens or Greater Tokens of the Twelve as well

Either would allow those that have multiples from farming to reduce the stock of partial sets and a chance to complete.

[Avenir]

/signed

[Saekee]

I kind of like the system for its horrendous drop rates. If anything, it would be nice to see the gear updated to be competitive until level 25ish but with min level 20. Some niche stuff is still used (and I have a lot of good s s s stuff on my main).

Funny--I have all the goods for eRoderic Wand but am missing the lousy scroll...

[RD2play]

I think one of two things needs to occur

1. ...
2. Expand the trade-in to include a Shards and Seals - Should be similar to the Desert Trade in for Scrolls. Maybe with additional cost say Tokens or Greater Tokens of the Twelve as well

Either would allow those that have multiples from farming to reduce the stock of partial sets and a chance to complete.

I kind of like the system for its horrendous drop rates. If anything, it would be nice to see the gear updated to be competitive until level 25ish but with min level 20. Some niche stuff is still used ...

This and This ^^ like upping the +6 to stat to +7 and so on....

[KristinS]

I think one of two things needs to occur

1. Unbind Shards and Seals - market will work this out as there could be a flood of these on the market but as they are consumed there will be fewer of them

Part of why is my remembrance of a time when a mishap in code allowed these to be traded.

2. Expand the trade-in to include a Shards and Seals - Should be similar to the Desert Trade in for Scrolls. Maybe with additional cost say Tokens or Greater Tokens of the Twelve as well

Either would allow those that have multiples from farming to reduce the stock of partial sets and a chance to complete.

/signed

[Bolo_Grubb]

I think one of two things needs to occur


2. Expand the trade-in to include a Shards and Seals - Should be similar to the Desert Trade in for Scrolls. Maybe with additional cost say Tokens or Greater Tokens of the Twelve as well

I would love this option if it is applied to shards, seals and scrolls for all packs not just the desert pack. after years of playing I have a ton of shards, seals and scrolls, but still not able to make many epic items because I do not have the right combination of shards, seals and scrolls.