Put your $ where your mouth is!

[royboy]

Ok, to be clear.

Wasn't offering charity.
Expecting something in return for my $.
Just wanted to offer my help to push the game,
in the right direction faster.

Furthermore, I have spoken to hundreds of gamers in game.
That are on the same page.
Also this feels more like a hate channel,
than a forum.

Never fails to amaze me.
How ugly some of us truly are.
Shouldn't surprise me!!!

Docsin

[esojiul]

Would you pay a one time fee of 50$, to help DDO become
something better?

By far this , this is my favorite toy.

My toy needs a serious upgrade.

Docsin

Hey Doc. As always clear and direct. I am willing to put also 50usd (Prepaid), but will like to see a agenda, if the agenda is good i know ppl will put more money.
I am premium, i bought everything in these game, but i am willing to put more money. Actually they can raise money from the player to start the overhaul and then they can make profit from new player.

[esojiul]

The only way I'd save up and give them that money is if they were going to do the following:

1. Remove the Forgotten Realms
2. Roll back to before update 1 and rebuild the game according to the pnp rules

Otherwise no. They dont' have the good faith necessary for me to just throw money at them.

i think you work for neverwinter

[blerkington]

Hi,

I'd consider making a donation if what the money was being used for was made clear in advance and I agreed with the goals.

At one point, I had a fair amount of good-will towards the company. It has been steadily eroded over the years by one thing after another. I'm not sure how long, OP, you've been playing but there are also others with a similar view to mine.

That doesn't mean we automatically hate the game, Turbine, or its developers. I'm sure at least some of them are decent people who are doing their best. But try to remember that these people are not our friends, they are company employees whose purpose it is to make money from us.

I do think it's pretty poor that you've characterised people, who aren't in the same sunny frame of mind as you, as hateful and ugly. It's also falling into the trap of believing that people who disagree with you are doing so to be spiteful, rather than considering their reasons for thinking differently.

Thanks.

[EnziteBob]

Seeing how I already pay $100 for my yearly VIP it would be a problem.

[EnziteBob]

The only way I'd save up and give them that money is if they were going to do the following:

1. Remove the Forgotten Realms
2. Roll back to before update 1 and rebuild the game according to the pnp rules

Otherwise no. They dont' have the good faith necessary for me to just throw money at them.

Word for word pnp rules don't scale well into higher levels especially in a MMO environment. That's is why in pnp DM's will change things on the fly to make it work for the party.

Realms is fine. They have to have it because of WoTC anyways.

[Lerincho]

Ok, to be clear.

Wasn't offering charity.
Expecting something in return for my $.
Just wanted to offer my help to push the game,
in the right direction faster.

Furthermore, I have spoken to hundreds of gamers in game.
That are on the same page.
Also this feels more like a hate channel,
than a forum.

Never fails to amaze me.
How ugly some of us truly are.
Shouldn't surprise me!!!

Docsin

A couple of things.
1. It is okay for people to disagree with you. You came to the forums to voice your opinion and to see if others agreed. As with all opinion gathering you have a few that agreed, but you also have disagreement. The Forums as a rule for any game are the vocal minority. You could very well be running into a vast number agreeing with you; however, not all of them use the forums.

2. Again the forums are the vocal minority, essentially those with enough passion to voice their opinion of support or against. Not all are angry and hateful, to make a the blanket statement you did, you joined the hateful as you fell right in line with the "if you don't agree with me you're against me"

Have a good day.

[Uska]

Ok, to be clear.

Wasn't offering charity.
Expecting something in return for my $.
Just wanted to offer my help to push the game,
in the right direction faster.

Furthermore, I have spoken to hundreds of gamers in game.
That are on the same page.
Also this feels more like a hate channel,
than a forum.

Never fails to amaze me.
How ugly some of us truly are.
Shouldn't surprise me!!!

Docsin

That just it the game has been going in the wrong way for me for a long time I still have fun that's why I keep my VIP but no extra unless I know where it's going and then it has to be something I want if all extra goes to end game and power creep no extra and I start considering dropping VIP if it's I mix of low/mid and end game I might give a little extra

[kned225]

Id be happy to give them money. The game isn't perfect or run perfectly, but what is? It's the best one I've got.

I keep waiting for another expansion because I like all the little bonus nonsense stuff that comes with them. You know...unique perma hires, cosmetics etc. More, please. Take my money

[dunklezhan]

I'd happily contribute to an 'overtime fund' which was dedicated to the exclusive hammering of KIs and bugs, and for polish and maintenance of older systems (focussing on getting the bugs down to manageable levels first). For everything else, Turbine's business model and strategic planning should be enough. (ok, the bug hammering should also be covered in there, but clearly it isn't, so since they cant' afford more staff, I'd happily contribute to a fund that let those staff earn a bit more cash, provided it wasn't forced overtime - devs need time off too!)

[hp1055cm]

Would you pay a one time fee of 50$, to help DDO become something better?

Sure, if it was specified what the money would be used for and it addressed specific problems like hardware upgrade(s), content updates and or another game expansion. Personally I'd rather see development on DDO2 - a total remake of the game with mo' beta' design.

[UurlockYgmeov]

If it were something like a Kickstarter campaign where they listed out what they were planning on doing, I would. Maybe even substantially more money, depending. Things like:

Cannith Crafting full revamp
polish run on old Eberron epics (making an epic version of sands/red fens explore areas, clean up the most useless loot a bit to bring it in line with other level 20 gear, institute 3:1 shard/seal/scroll swapping across all packs the way they did for Sands scrolls)
Epic Titan, Delera's and/or Threnal (Delera's greatest priority--there are no epics in House J at present. Add some House J epics and you can have a "house saga" where you hit the House quests) Epic versions of the Subterrene raids and the explore area. Epic Inspired Quarter. IQ saga.
Epic Harbinger of Madness and Reign of Madness and putting these in an epic and heroic saga with the other new Xoriat quests
Third trees for Arti, Druid, Favored Soul, Sorcerer
Clean up on Monk and Ranger
Epic Destiny that's a better fit for Arti
Revisit to Reaver's Refuge for cleanup
More advertising to boost population: "New and Improved DDO!"
Tie-in with the forthcoming movie, preferably new Iconic classes based on movie characters, maybe an adventure pack (it's set in the Forgotten Realms, after all)1
A solid attack on the Known Issues list
Dragon Mountain classic dungeon
Slight changes to ETR with the level 30 cap
Make a bunch of the old low-level packs that aren't good candidates for future epics completely free to play (Sharn Syndicate, STK, Catacombs, Tangleroot, Sorrowdusk, maybe even Restless Isles)
Add a pack of PVP challenges/activities
Cleanup of LFM/quest log to make it more comprehensive and user-friendly

I'm hoping they plan to do most of that eventually, but I'd be delighted to throw some extra money their way if it could make it happen SOONER.

(bold more favorable to me)

Guild Management System (GMS)
TR Cache UI update
Housing / BtC storage
Update Handwraps to be actual weapons and add to original Green Steel
Add race(s) (Gnome, Kobold, Goblin, Draconic, HalfOgre, HalfGiant, Pixie, etc )
Demi-God Reincarnation
Cosmetic Cloaks
Spell Mat, Scroll, Wand Pot bags (and wand bracelets)
5 new spells (or even 10) - yes. Only available if you purchase them or are VIP.
Reincarnation abstract and synopsis email (basically a data dump of character included skills, feats (by level taken), tomes, spell power, gear et al)
2nd Cosmetic Pet active slot (and a third)
Additional Cosmetic slots (so cloaks (which will probably never happen), boots, breaches, tunic, etc).

and many many others. Thankfully Cannith pass should be happening this year (unless some major time suck happens) and things like BtC storage will happen anyways because always great revenue for Turbine. The class pass continues, and probably will never fully be done because once they do the initial pass, they will continue to cycle through (at least they should).

I have supported this idea for many years, even going so far as to drop hints about crowdfunding (which for many reasons wouldn't work). (However, setting an internal business goal to raise in advance the required funds to future fund a budget item would)

I continue to support this game, even with its numerous faults because I enjoy playing it and the social aspects it provides.

Hi,

I'd consider making a donation if what the money was being used for was made clear in advance and I agreed with the goals.

At one point, I had a fair amount of good-will towards the company. It has been steadily eroded over the years by one thing after another. I'm not sure how long, OP, you've been playing but there are also others with a similar view to mine.

That doesn't mean we automatically hate the game, Turbine, or its developers. I'm sure at least some of them are decent people who are doing their best. But try to remember that these people are not our friends, they are company employees whose purpose it is to make money from us.

I do think it's pretty poor that you've characterised people, who aren't in the same sunny frame of mind as you, as hateful and ugly. It's also falling into the trap of believing that people who disagree with you are doing so to be spiteful, rather than considering their reasons for thinking differently.

Thanks.

very well said.

I feel I must point out that IMHO even in-spite of the bugs going live, the game is much healthier and better than it has ever been under the direction of Sev and his team. Keep it going! On track for 5 updates in a year. Impressive. Now with that said - where are my GNOMES! ;p

[esojiul]

(bold more favorable to me)

Guild Management System (GMS)
TR Cache UI update
Housing / BtC storage
Update Handwraps to be actual weapons and add to original Green Steel
Add race(s) (Gnome, Kobold, Goblin, Draconic, HalfOgre, HalfGiant, Pixie, etc )
Demi-God Reincarnation
Cosmetic Cloaks
Spell Mat, Scroll, Wand Pot bags (and wand bracelets)
5 new spells (or even 10) - yes. Only available if you purchase them or are VIP.
Reincarnation abstract and synopsis email (basically a data dump of character included skills, feats (by level taken), tomes, spell power, gear et al)
2nd Cosmetic Pet active slot (and a third)
Additional Cosmetic slots (so cloaks (which will probably never happen), boots, breaches, tunic, etc).

and many many others. Thankfully Cannith pass should be happening this year (unless some major time suck happens) and things like BtC storage will happen anyways because always great revenue for Turbine. The class pass continues, and probably will never fully be done because once they do the initial pass, they will continue to cycle through (at least they should).

I have supported this idea for many years, even going so far as to drop hints about crowdfunding (which for many reasons wouldn't work). (However, setting an internal business goal to raise in advance the require funds to future fund a budget item would)

I continue to support this game, even with its numerous faults because I enjoy playing it and the social aspects it provides.



very well said.

I feel I must point out that IMHO even in-spite of the bugs going live, the game is much healthier and better than it has ever been under the direction of Sev and his team. Keep it going! On track for 5 updates in a year. Impressive. Now with that said - where are my GNOMES! ;p

SERVELIN: Layout a year plan, that will be paid by vip players or bought by premium. And put an extra content , (example gnomes), and how much money you need to raised for those purpose. I think we will be happy to donate.

[Uska]

(bold more favorable to me)

Guild Management System (GMS)
TR Cache UI update
Housing / BtC storage
Update Handwraps to be actual weapons and add to original Green Steel
Add race(s) (Gnome, Kobold, Goblin, Draconic, HalfOgre, HalfGiant, Pixie, etc )
Demi-God Reincarnation
Cosmetic Cloaks
Spell Mat, Scroll, Wand Pot bags (and wand bracelets)
5 new spells (or even 10) - yes. Only available if you purchase them or are VIP.
Reincarnation abstract and synopsis email (basically a data dump of character included skills, feats (by level taken), tomes, spell power, gear et al)
2nd Cosmetic Pet active slot (and a third)
Additional Cosmetic slots (so cloaks (which will probably never happen), boots, breaches, tunic, etc).

and many many others. Thankfully Cannith pass should be happening this year (unless some major time suck happens) and things like BtC storage will happen anyways because always great revenue for Turbine. The class pass continues, and probably will never fully be done because once they do the initial pass, they will continue to cycle through (at least they should).

I have supported this idea for many years, even going so far as to drop hints about crowdfunding (which for many reasons wouldn't work). (However, setting an internal business goal to raise in advance the require funds to future fund a budget item would)

I continue to support this game, even with its numerous faults because I enjoy playing it and the social aspects it provides.



very well said.

I feel I must point out that IMHO even in-spite of the bugs going live, the game is much healthier and better than it has ever been under the direction of Sev and his team. Keep it going! On track for 5 updates in a year. Impressive. Now with that said - where are my GNOMES! ;p

Very little for me there nothing I would pay for

[dontmater]

i would pay $50 for a voice chat with volume setting for each person in party.

$100 if it saved the setting for each player name.

[UurlockYgmeov]

Very little for me there nothing I would pay for

and that is one of the wonderful things about this game - you don't have to because others do, all you essentially must do is play the game to benefit. Everyone benefits because everyone plays. Hopefully that made sense.

[wraxzz]

Would you pay a one time fee of 50$, to help DDO become
something better?

By far this , this is my favorite toy.

My toy needs a serious upgrade.

Docsin

In other words invest for a hopeful return on a better experience?

NOT A CHANCE. If ddo was seen as a company with shares and I was looking to invest then I would steer so far clear of ddo and turbine, heck, i'd wish to have a filter removing them from ANY results i find.

As a company of program developers they have proven to me to be unreliable and investing in them would be a throw away of money- heck they might even go on a rampage and destroy the game if they got a large sum of invested money.

However if they had to fix MANY of the bugs that have been around since the game released, plus a lot more other required bugs, glitched areas, etc. only then would a cash investment become something to consider

[wraxzz]

i would pay $50 for a voice chat with volume setting for each person in party.

how so? My voice char is permanently off because it uses up 4x the normal bandwidth and i suspect it contributes to lag. Why would you pay a small fortune to talk to people?

[wraxzz]

Play less, use that time to get skills for a better job (or a first job, if you're a high-school or college student)

thats not relevant to throwing more money at DDO and Turbine. Having a qualification doesnt automatically relate to having abundance of money, expecially not in a third world country with a corrupt government

[esojiul]

In other words invest for a hopeful return on a better experience?

NOT A CHANCE. If ddo was seen as a company with shares and I was looking to invest then I would steer so far clear of ddo and turbine, heck, i'd wish to have a filter removing them from ANY results i find.

As a company of program developers they have proven to me to be unreliable and investing in them would be a throw away of money- heck they might even go on a rampage and destroy the game if they got a large sum of invested money.

However if they had to fix MANY of the bugs that have been around since the game released, plus a lot more other required bugs, glitched areas, etc. only then would a cash investment become something to consider

You are wrong, read the forums 2008-2010. EVerything the the players ask on those day it happen. The problems that the product is getting to end of it cycle. If it not reinvited itself, ddo will die.

I believe people must put their pocket , where their mouth. I have put my idea, i will put my money. If you dont believe pn the future of the game, go and play other mmo. but if you are not willing put money, you are waisting everyone time with your comments.