Half Elf remains inept

[Pnumbra]

Hi,

Is there a plan to revisit the Half-Elf this year or before next summer? So much of the race functions (dilettante choices) are broken or of no use.

[icekinslayer]

Hi,

Is there a plan to revisit the Half-Elf this year or before next summer? So much of the race functions (dilettante choices) are broken or of no use.

They're all situational, depending on the classes you pick. That's not broken.

[Pnumbra]

They're all situational, depending on the classes you pick. That's not broken.

Wrong. Many of the dilattante choices are broken. The paladin features are a prime example.

[unbongwah]

AFAIK, pally dilly is the only one that's actually broken. The problem with the rest is it costs too many APs to max them out. Pre-U19, you could max your dilettante for 6 APs; now it costs 19 APs. Obviously, you're boosting more than just your dilly for those APs, but it's simply not a cost-effective tree.

[Simulacrum_FRG]

Obviously, you're boosting more than just your dilly for those APs, but it's simply not a cost-effective tree.

Precisely my impression with the one effort I invested before unlocking Drow...

[cru121]

About Paladin Dilettante.
If I don't spend any AP in the racial tree. Do I get the +2 saves? Or is that part already broken?

[blerkington]

Hi,

They didn't do a great job of designing HE racial enhancements, but on the plus side it means there aren't nearly as many of these hideous monstrosities running around in the game now. So in a way it's like they did us a favour.

I'd be in support of a redesign of the tree once their appearances are corrected or bag/bucket cosmetic helms become available. Until then, no thanks.

Thanks.

[Daine]

Hi,

They didn't do a great job of designing HE racial enhancements, but on the plus side it means there aren't nearly as many of these hideous monstrosities running around in the game now. So in a way it's like they did us a favour.

I'd be in support of a redesign of the tree once their appearances are corrected or bag/bucket cosmetic helms become available. Until then, no thanks.

Thanks.

LOL, what a crazy (fantasy) world we live in where people smile and wave at half orcs but run screaming from half elves!

[blerkington]

LOL, what a crazy (fantasy) world we live in where people smile and wave at half orcs but run screaming from half elves!

Hi,

Yes, it's pretty sad that one of the traditionally better looking races ended up like this. Though it's mainly the male ones which look really bad; I've seen some female half elves that didn't make me want to run.

Getting back to the bag/bucket cosmetic idea, the new helm Halcyonia has a veil which hides the face. Perhaps Turbine could provide a Halcyonia cosmetic to every half-elf as an apology for doing such an atrociously poor job on their faces.

Thanks.

[mezzorco]

I've seen some female half elves that didn't make me want to run.

My half elf sorceress is pretty hot
With male helves instead it's just impossible to make something decent...

[unbongwah]

My half elf sorceress is pretty hot

You mean she's a Fire Savant?

[nibel]

The problem with the rest is it costs too many APs to max them out. Pre-U19, you could max your dilettante for 6 APs; now it costs 19 APs. Obviously, you're boosting more than just your dilly for those APs, but it's simply not a cost-effective tree.

That's why I advocate to move the Dilettante enhancements to Core.

[cru121]

AFAIK, pally dilly is the only one that's actually broken.

I've rolled vet 4 half elf with 18 charisma. Paladin dilettante seemed to work just fine at least to +4, I did not have AP (or charisma) to try the final tier. It shows as feat bonus in the breakdown when you hover over your save. I did not check if there are any stacking issues.

[Pnumbra]

I haven't heard of the Paladin dilly being corrected. I will have to play with it. I do agree that the racial tree was poorly developed, almost like it was an after thought on some Friday night one hour before quitting time. Still, I can't get away from that race being my favorite. With that said, Devs, please, please, fix the Half Elf.

We are ugly, broken, and people avoid us.

[the_one_dwarfforged]

move each helf hamp enhancement down a tier, move action surge to tier 1 or 2.

thats all it would take for me to reroll from human to helf, **** the diles... oh and diplomatic immunity too.

[eachna_gislin]

Hi,

They didn't do a great job of designing HE racial enhancements, but on the plus side it means there aren't nearly as many of these hideous monstrosities running around in the game now. So in a way it's like they did us a favour.

I'd be in support of a redesign of the tree once their appearances are corrected or bag/bucket cosmetic helms become available. Until then, no thanks.

Thanks.

From surveying all my friends who thing helves are ugly, they think they're "less ugly" than PDK, horcs, and Shadar Kai.

[eachna_gislin]

That's why I advocate to move the Dilettante enhancements to Core.

... and advocated for insanely powerful dilettante boosts that would push for helves being "must play" races.

[Splotto]

I have a HELF monk sitting at 25 and he is pretty useless (as a monk).

Any classes that you would LR a HELF into? Ranger? Pally?