Downtime Notice: 9:00 AM - 1:00 PM Eastern (-4 GMT) Wednesday, August 12th

[Cordovan]

UPDATE: The game worlds are open! Thank you for your patience, and we will see you in the game.

The DDO Game Servers will be brought down on Wednesday, August 12th from 9:00 AM - 1:00 PM Eastern (-4 GMT) for an update to the game. Thanks for your patience, and we'll see you back in the game soon! Patch notes will be available during the downtime.

Click here for a Time Zone converter.

[Nestroy]

Any informaton of this is a lag hotfix, too?

[Cordovan]

Any informaton of this is a lag hotfix, too?

We are doing a number of things to improve performance in the raid Defiler of the Just, and will see what impact it has on general lag being reported while we continue to look at other possibilities as well.

[Vellrad]

no more time zone convert link for lazy people?

[Cordovan]

no more time zone convert link for lazy people?

Done.

[dunklezhan]

But... but its my birthday.

For realsies.

[Gratch]

We are doing a number of things to improve performance in the raid Defiler of the Just, and will see what impact it has on general lag being reported while we continue to look at other possibilities as well.

Did you figure out the transmit packet rate 10x'ing that everyone sees from your own in game network icon whenever a warlock begins their EBlastin'?

[Cordovan]

Time and Date has a good writeup on the difference between GMT/UTC and BST. Also, UTC isn't actually a time zone.

[Natashaelle]

Time and Date has a good writeup on the difference between GMT/UTC and BST. Also, UTC isn't actually a time zone.

But your own conversions are still nearly systematically divergent by one hour (exception -- you do get it right when US summer time is on, but not European summer time)

In practice, and therefore pragmatic reality, Boston is typically five hours behind London (including Greenwich) on clock time, not four, regardless of of any convoluted mental gymnastics concerning GMT and UTC

BTW UTC *is* used as a time zone, albeit admittedly only for spacecraft, satellites, and space stations in non-geosynchronous orbit -- and let's not even start on Lunar Standard Time, as there can currently be no DDO players based there

[Stoner81]

The DDO Game Servers will be brought down on Wednesday, August 12th from 9:00 AM - 1:00 PM Eastern (-4 GMT) for an update to the game. Thanks for your patience, and we'll see you back in the game soon! Patch notes will be available during the downtime.

Click here for a Time Zone converter.

According to the link it is 2PM-6PM (start/finish) for the UK (specifically England), now 2PM is not 4 hours away from 9AM it is 5 hours away as can be clearly seen from the below screenshot:



Stoner81.

[Enoach]

According to the link it is 2PM-6PM (start/finish) for the UK (specifically England), now 2PM is not 4 hours away from 9AM it is 5 hours away as can be clearly seen from the below screenshot:



Stoner81.

Many regions in the US are currently observing Daylight Savings time. This is why Eastern Time is only -4 instead of -5 off the Universal Time. I suspect you are also currently observing Daylight savings time, thus preserving the 5 hour difference.

[Vellrad]

3PM-7PM downtime.
2,649,151 XP til lvl28.
ER timer ending at 8:20PM.
Won't be easy, but doable.

[Stoner81]

Many regions in the US are currently observing Daylight Savings time. This is why Eastern Time is only -4 instead of -5 off the Universal Time. I suspect you are also currently observing Daylight savings time, thus preserving the 5 hour difference.

From March to October every year most of the UK (afaik) goes on to DST which becomes BST or British Summer Time instead of GMT (personally I think BST should be done away with but that is another thread entirely).

Stoner81.

[FranOhmsford]

From March to October every year most of the UK (afaik) goes on to DST which becomes BST or British Summer Time instead of GMT (personally I think BST should be done away with but that is another thread entirely).

Stoner81.

If Scotland ever gains independence THEN the rest of us may be able to get rid of BST. But not while Scotland is in the UK!

[glmfw1]

If Scotland ever gains independence THEN the rest of us may be able to get rid of BST. But not while Scotland is in the UK!

Why would Scottish independence have any bearing on BST? The sun sets so late and rises so early here in summer that BST is fairly meaningless in Scotland. BST and any form of Daylight Savings time is just an annoyance, especially as many people work flexible hours and supermarkets are open 24x7.

Back to the thread... Currently UTC/GMT are 4 hours out from the East Coast of the US, but as we are observing BST (so the sun is directly overhead at Greenwich at 1pm), the UK is 5 hours out from the East Coast. The difference is complicated by the fact that Europe standardised when their clocks changed, so we all change on the same date. Years later, the US decided to alter when they changed their clocks (it had been the same as Europe, give or take a week in either Spring or Autumn (the other was the same)) to occur at significantly different times. So now the time difference may be 5 hours, 4 hours, 5 hours or 4 hours, depending on the time of year. My experience of working in international companies was that people in the US assumed everyone's clocks changed at the same time as theirs (conference calls got scheduled at some odd times, as a result). Turbine, by stating GMT have done away with this issue, as everyone around the world uses a timezone that is stated as a calculation from GMT.

[Natashaelle]

Many regions in the US are currently observing Daylight Savings time. This is why Eastern Time is only -4 instead of -5 off the Universal Time. I suspect you are also currently observing Daylight savings time, thus preserving the 5 hour difference.

But the fact of the matter is that people look at relative clock time, not Boston time relative to GMT relative to their own time and time zone relative to GMT. People aren't going to be inclined to doing three calculations instead of one.

And the typical differential between Boston and Greenwich clock times is 5 hours, not four.

[Cordovan]

But the fact of the matter is that people look at relative clock time, not Boston time relative to GMT relative to their own time and time zone relative to GMT. People aren't going to be inclined to doing three calculations instead of one.

And the typical differential between Boston and Greenwich clock times is 5 hours, not four.

Sure, but when I'm announcing Eastern Time as an offset of GMT, I'm basing the difference on the difference between Eastern Time and GMT, not Eastern Time and BST. The difference between Eastern and GMT is -4 when we are on Daylight Saving Time, and -5 when we are not (with some overlap between when Europe and the U.S. observe DST and switch back.)

[FranOhmsford]

Sure, but when I'm announcing Eastern Time as an offset of GMT, I'm basing the difference on the difference between Eastern Time and GMT, not Eastern Time and BST. The difference between Eastern and GMT is -4 when we are on Daylight Saving Time, and -5 when we are not (with some overlap between when Europe and the U.S. observe DST and switch back.)

The problem with this is that there's only like 2 weeks out of the entire year when the difference between EST and GMT is -4!

Whether that be when USA is on EST and UK is on GMT or when USA is on EST and UK is on BST It's -5! {Only during the swap over period is it ever -4!}.

And I'm sorry Cordovan but the UK does NOT use GMT in the way you're using it!

GMT = Our time and we still say GMT year round! The only reason I'm using BST here is so as to avoid misunderstandings!

I'm pretty sure the same goes for America and EST/DST - The only time you'll say DST is when you want to be specific!

[Eth]

According to the link it is 2PM-6PM (start/finish) for the UK (specifically England), now 2PM is not 4 hours away from 9AM it is 5 hours away as can be clearly seen from the below screenshot:



Stoner81.

BST is UTC+1. The difference between -4 and +1 is 5. All good.

[Greywolf75]

The DDO Game Servers will be brought down on Wednesday, August 12th from 9:00 AM - 1:00 PM Eastern (-4 GMT) for an update to the game. Thanks for your patience, and we'll see you back in the game soon! Patch notes will be available during the downtime.

Click here for a Time Zone converter.

Where are these fabled Patch Notes? Not finding them anywhere ...