when doj first came out, i tried stunning/tripping the orange named orthons and barbazu, but never could. then i saw people freezing them, so i asked what their dc was, and got responses of low to mid 70s.

my 2nd laziest stun dc is 87, and i never was able to stun an orange named devil. so i went in there today on en, and just tested this on the pack of devils in the first room. i didnt drink any stat pots (id have to drink a bunch of em for just +3 dc, and if low-mid 70s is landing i shouldnt need em right?), for a dc of 89 before improved sunder stacks. i was stacking improved sunder 5 times on some of the enemies, for an effective stun dc of 104.

not a single stun landed, nor trip. in fact what i discovered was that neither of those abilities was even causing the enemy to attempt a save.

so im wondering, is this wai, and im just missing something?

is being able to freeze these mobs not wai? were stunning blow/trip coded wrong and just broken?

if not wai, can there be a fix please?