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    Default Defiler of the Just Omnipresence method - weeknights around 7pm -

    Hello,

    As some of you may know Omnipresence is an elite guild on another server that runs the new defiler of the just raid on EE. They developed some best practices and were kind enough to post those here - with a video:

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...05#post5662305

    I will be out of town for most of September and October and won't be able to raid much during that time so I will be running/hosting this raid quite a bit during August - usually at around 7pm EST during the week.

    I plan to try out this method and will be posting lfms unless there is already a group running the raid - in which case I will join and just do what they want.

    I think this Omnipresence method has a few advantages:

    1) It will scale better for higher difficulties. If it goes well and we have solid DPS I would like to move up from EN to EH - hopefully for a better chance at mythic bonuses.
    2) It sounds like this method results in less lag
    3) It's easier for people to know what to do - especially if they are new to the raid.

    The usual Sarlona PUG method of running around killing everything and hoping we don't lag out works reasonably enough for EN, but I think if we get this method down for EN, it will make transitioning to EH easier.

    If you are interested please contact me in game, leave a message here or msg me on the forum. Basically any character starting with "Rand" in Guardians of House Cannith is me. I'll be putting up an lfm around 7pm most weeknights if there isn't one up already. I will be running raids with Randowl.

    I will probably limit the party size to 10 and if this method results in less lag I will try out 12.
    Last edited by slarden; 08-03-2015 at 01:36 PM.
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    Gimps is running 9x tonight so I am joining his group rather than starting my own with this method. We aren't using this method, but I highly recommend joining his group if you are on tonight.
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    Default Thank You

    Hi,

    I just want to thank everyone that ran with me. Results were:

    32 EN runs: 30 successful completions, 2 lag wipes including 1 wipe at the end fight that occurred because there was some chaos after several people died while we were killing the worm - could have been a wipe even without the lag. The run where we wiped at the end fight wipe - the DPS was noticeably lower. When we ran again with the same group we had someone keep the worm busy instead of killing it and we completed. We had some lag other runs, but nothing that kept us from succeeding

    4 EH runs: 2 successful completions and 2 lag wipes, although arguably we may have finished the lag wipes if were running EN, but EH was less forgiving as the enemies hit harder and had more HP. Ironically both lag wipes were the first attempts at EH.

    These don't count some runs I joined using the old method. All of those were EN and there was definitely more lag on average, especially during the waves of 10 reinforcements.

    This includes some runs that were started by other people using the same method. As of this weekend this seems to be the default method used by most groups.

    With the upcoming changes this week the executioners will stick close to the archons so this method may not work when the next patch is released.

    There is some mythology around that the group can't advance to the end fight without reaching conquest bonus. This is not true and we did reach the end fight without conquest a few times. In fact there is a person that soloed the raid and didn't have conquest at the end of the raid - likely because he killed only the executioners and reinforcements.
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    Default Bad Lag Tonight

    After a long string of good luck with lag we had really really bad lag tonight. 3 successful runs followed by 3 lag wipes, but even the successful runs had lag. Most of my previous runs were before 8:30pm EST - many on the weekend. Other people in the group commented the lag always gets worse after 8pm EST so that might be a factor.

    On our last run we lost 2 archons to lag early then on the last wave of 10 reinforcements we had really bad lag and somehow went from 2 lost archons to 5. That seemed like a bug to me.

    That means 38 attempted EN runs and 33 successes and 5 lag wipes. 4 attempted EH runs and 2 success and 2 lag wipes.
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