More Races

[Jappy]

Hello,

I think there should be more races it is alittle boring that every update (except u26) has had no new races (or classes) and it would be interesting




Thank you

[lyrecono]

yes please,

i would like to see the eberron races completed,
Gnomes, Belongs in Eberron
Shifters, Belongs in Eberron
Kalastar, Belongs in Eberron
Changelings, Belongs in Eberron

maybe lizard folk and half ogers

No half dragons killed on sight by real dragons, no werewolfskilled on sight by the silver flame, no undead killed on sight by the silver flame, no dragonborn killed on sight by real dragons, no kobolds, no more elf subraces we have enough

[JOTMON]

yes please,

i would like to see the eberron races completed,
Gnomes, Belongs in Eberron
Shifters, Belongs in Eberron
Kalastar, Belongs in Eberron
Changelings, Belongs in Eberron

maybe lizard folk and half ogers

No half dragons killed on sight by real dragons, no werewolfskilled on sight by the silver flame, no undead killed on sight by the silver flame, no dragonborn killed on sight by real dragons, no kobolds, no more elf subraces we have enough

Gomes.. meh.. they have nothing to offer.. but it is a core Eberron Race and does open up some more dragonmarks..
Shifters..also known as the weretouched.. contradiction of your.. no werewolf...
Kalastar.. that would involve bringing in Psionics.. this would probably be something for an expansion.
Changelings.. effectively same stats as Drow.. more or less covered by Iconic Shadar-kai(no the same.. but close enough).

Would like to see Moon Elf with a wisdom core bonus.. could be iconic..

[Uska]

Gomes.. meh.. they have nothing to offer.. but it is a core Eberron Race and does open up some more dragonmarks..
Shifters..also known as the weretouched.. contradiction of your.. no werewolf...
Kalastar.. that would involve bringing in Psionics.. this would probably be something for an expansion.
Changelings.. effectively same stats as Drow.. more or less covered by Iconic Shadar-kai(no the same.. but close enough).

Would like to see Moon Elf with a wisdom core bonus.. could be iconic..

Your wrong on shifters they are acceptable though distrusted

They said no more iconics so Moon elf should be out unless they do a FR starter area

Gnomes should be added even though they are only flavor

agree on changelings they don't really do anything as they main use is only good for pnp

[Vellrad]

Would like to see Moon Elf with a wisdom core bonus.. could be iconic..

No more elfs.
Ever, at any condition, we have too much already.

[Wonedream]

No more elfs.
Ever, at any condition, we have too much already.

How about green apple elves and garden gnome elves and sea elves and kobold elves and tree elves and bush elves and grass elves and mushroom elves and fairie elves and santas elves and.. did I mention garden gnomes elves already?

I wouldnt mind more elves really, the moon elf idea is cool. Gnomes would be flavor, but flavor tastes good.. so Gnomes would be a welcome plus by most people.

Id like to see some wild unexpected stuff like Teifling, Werewolf, or Shifter...

[Dandonk]

Oh, I didn't mention in my first reply: If we get a new race can we please not have it look like a awfully ugly mutated humanoid? Please? Or at the very least a bag-over-the-head cosmetic for half elves and half humans, I mean PDK?

[FranOhmsford]

Would like to see Moon Elf with a wisdom core bonus.. could be iconic..

There is absolutely nothing Iconic about an Elf with +Wisdom!

If any Elf should have got +Wis in DDO it's the Broken Non-Iconic Morninglords {Sun Elves} who btw aren't even supposed to be Elves in D&D - Amaunator AND Lathander Morninglord were BOTH Human Gods!


Moon Elves are your typical High Elves {Your STANDARD Elves!} Which we already have in DDO - Aerenal!

The Valenar are supposed to be closer to Sylvan Elves but aren't a proper separate sub-race in DDO so I could definitely see Sylvan Elves added as a final Elf Subrace {+2 Str, +2 Dex, -2 Con, -2 Cha}


For Wisdom - Well there's a distinct possibility of giving that to Mountain Dwarves {+2 Wis, +2 Con, -2 Dex, -2 Cha would fit well}.
And two Gnome Subraces - Forest Gnomes AND Svirfneblin have previously been Wis Races in D&D!

[eachna_gislin]

There is absolutely nothing Iconic about an Elf with +Wisdom!

If any Elf should have got +Wis in DDO it's the Broken Non-Iconic Morninglords {Sun Elves} who btw aren't even supposed to be Elves in D&D - Amaunator AND Lathander Morninglord were BOTH Human Gods!

Moon Elves are your typical High Elves {Your STANDARD Elves!} Which we already have in DDO - Aerenal!

The Valenar are supposed to be closer to Sylvan Elves but aren't a proper separate sub-race in DDO so I could definitely see Sylvan Elves added as a final Elf Subrace {+2 Str, +2 Dex, -2 Con, -2 Cha}

For Wisdom - Well there's a distinct possibility of giving that to Mountain Dwarves {+2 Wis, +2 Con, -2 Dex, -2 Cha would fit well}.
And two Gnome Subraces - Forest Gnomes AND Svirfneblin have previously been Wis Races in D&D!

Wisdom and Charisma are the two options for Shadar Kai. The devs dropped the ball with giving them Dex. especially since they gave sun elves Int (which makes no sense for clerics). They could have easily given Shadar Kai Wisdom (although I'm also kind of grateful given that _every_ hair style they have is unattractive.

While not a core race, Aasimar can have +2 Wisdom and would balance Tieflings. The devs know Wis-based players want a +2 wisdom race and would probably pay extra for it to not be ugly. Just give us one already.

[Iriale]

especially since they gave sun elves Int (which makes no sense for clerics).

Sun elves are +2 int in pnp. The problem is that the iconic of the race in all D&D lore is wizard, not cleric lol. Devs used the wrong iconic type for the race.

they should have created an aasimar cleric as cleric iconic, but… well, devs have weird ideas.

I wish that devs move the morniglord tree to the aasimar race and give us a genuine sun elf iconic... a wizard sun elf. As is in all D&D lore.

[cru121]

No half dragons killed on sight by real dragons, no werewolfskilled on sight by the silver flame, no undead killed on sight by the silver flame, no dragonborn killed on sight by real dragons, no kobolds, no more elf subraces we have enough

Dunno about half dragons, but Dragonborn function in Eberron just fine: http://eberron.wikia.com/wiki/Dragonborn

Stormreach is a frontier town with very minor Silver Flame presence. Even on the main continent, Karrnath has armies of undead, the king is a vampire, yet there is peace.

The lycanthropic purge is over. While werewolves are scarce, they exist in Eberron just fine. http://eberron.wikia.com/wiki/Werewolf

That said, I don't particularly miss any of those races, but please don't present your personal opinions as some kind of Eberron canon.

[lyrecono]

Gomes.. meh.. they have nothing to offer.. but it is a core Eberron Race and does open up some more dragonmarks..
Shifters..also known as the weretouched.. contradiction of your.. no werewolf... what uska said
Kalastar.. that would involve bringing in Psionics.. this would probably be something for an expansion.powerpoints=spellpoints in ddo
Changelings.. effectively same stats as Drow.. more or less covered by Iconic Shadar-kai(no the same.. but close enough).there are a few racial dialog options out there, it could have been useful if the devs continued to develop this

Would like to see Moon Elf with a wisdom core bonus.. could be iconic..

Dunno about half dragons, but Dragonborn function in Eberron just fine: http://eberron.wikia.com/wiki/Dragonborn 4,0 c!@# doesn't count, dragonborn will be attacked in any Eberron campaign with a savvy dm

Stormreach is a frontier town with very minor Silver Flame presence. Even on the main continent, Karrnath has armies of undead, the king is a vampire, yet there is peace. there is also peace between droam and Thrane, your point is moot, at least king Kaius keeps his undead in check, combats the emerald claw and strives for peace

The lycanthropic purge is over. While werewolves are scarce, they exist in Eberron just fine. http://eberron.wikia.com/wiki/Werewolf more 4,0 c!@#, there is a good reason why he kept templates out but kept a backdoor open for shifters (of which only a very small percentage could become a where-touched master btw)

That said, I don't particularly miss any of those races, but please don't present your personal opinions as some kind of Eberron canon.

read the actual 3,5 books instead of fan wiki's

[Uska]

read the actual 3,5 books instead of fan wiki's

good advice

[cru121]

read the actual 3,5 books instead of fan wiki's

Races of the Dragon, page 20

DRAGONBORN IN EBERRON
Dragonborn fit well in Eberron with just a few small adjustments.
The conflict central to the dragonborn’s existence is that
between dragons and fiends, Eberron and Khyber, rather than
Bahamut and Tiamat. The dragonborn feel called by Eberron,
one of the progenitor wyrms, to serve. Their primary enemies
are the spawn of Khyber, including rakshasas and evil outsiders
of all sorts. The references to the Dragonfall Wars should be
interpreted as referring to the Dragon–Fiend Wars.
During the Rite of Rebirth, a candidate’s dragonmarks disappear
as the character transforms into a dragonborn and are
replaced by other feats of the player’s choice, as noted in the
Mechanics of Rebirth sidebar.
Dragons who avidly watch the lesser races and pay keen
attention to dragonmarks wonder at the fact that dragonborn
cannot retain or gain dragonmarks. Speculations abound, but if
any dragon knows the truth behind the loss of a dragonborn’s
dragonmark, that creature hasn’t spread the news.

Lycs: http://archive.wizards.com/default.a...ebds/20050404a


Anyway, can you cite some sources to back up your wishful thinking?

[lyrecono]

not a Eberron book.
Written in by a bunch of dragon fangirls.
I have no idea why Keith is linked to this text, the book was written by Gwendolyl F.M. Kestrel, Jennifer Clarke Wilkes and Kolja Raven Liquette, Keith isn't even mentioned in the book.
Again, one of those little benefits of reading the real book over a web page.
read the original reasons why Keith Baker kept half dragons out and you'll understand why dragonborn don't fit into this campaign setting.

[Uska]

Races of the Dragon, page 20

DRAGONBORN IN EBERRON
Dragonborn fit well in Eberron with just a few small adjustments.
The conflict central to the dragonborn’s existence is that
between dragons and fiends, Eberron and Khyber, rather than
Bahamut and Tiamat. The dragonborn feel called by Eberron,
one of the progenitor wyrms, to serve. Their primary enemies
are the spawn of Khyber, including rakshasas and evil outsiders
of all sorts. The references to the Dragonfall Wars should be
interpreted as referring to the Dragon–Fiend Wars.
During the Rite of Rebirth, a candidate’s dragonmarks disappear
as the character transforms into a dragonborn and are
replaced by other feats of the player’s choice, as noted in the
Mechanics of Rebirth sidebar.
Dragons who avidly watch the lesser races and pay keen
attention to dragonmarks wonder at the fact that dragonborn
cannot retain or gain dragonmarks. Speculations abound, but if
any dragon knows the truth behind the loss of a dragonborn’s
dragonmark, that creature hasn’t spread the news.

Lycs: http://archive.wizards.com/default.a...ebds/20050404a


Anyway, can you cite some sources to back up your wishful thinking?

OP optional as all splat books are NOT AN EBERRON BOOK

[Uska]

Dunno about half dragons, but Dragonborn function in Eberron just fine: http://eberron.wikia.com/wiki/Dragonborn

Stormreach is a frontier town with very minor Silver Flame presence. Even on the main continent, Karrnath has armies of undead, the king is a vampire, yet there is peace.

The lycanthropic purge is over. While werewolves are scarce, they exist in Eberron just fine. http://eberron.wikia.com/wiki/Werewolf

That said, I don't particularly miss any of those races, but please don't present your personal opinions as some kind of Eberron canon.

your dragonborning was from 4e in 3.x which we are they were kill on sight as they should be worst race EVER! In orginal Eberron canon he is right.

[SirValentine]

yes please,

i would like to see the eberron races completed,
Gnomes, Belongs in Eberron
Shifters, Belongs in Eberron
Kalastar, Belongs in Eberron
Changelings, Belongs in Eberron

Yes. And I'm glad you have Gnome at the top of that list, as it is also a core race in the other 2 universes we have in DDO.

[Memnir]

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[Tom116]

Hello,

I think there should be more races it is alittle boring that every update (except u26) has had no new races (or classes) and it would be interesting




Thank you

The dev's have said they are working on gnome heads, presumably the body and enhancements shouldn't be far behind. No ETA on it, but it's out there