Quote Originally Posted by Hara View Post
Cetus,

the reason that there is a whole world of players out there that have all the gear they need from MoD is that they had/have a big fat pile of Raid By PassTimers, I wonder where they got them from? Anniversary Cards perhaps?
Do you remember the definition of assume "Assume: To make and a** of you and me". You have to remember that if you run MOD there is probably someone in the party willing to give out raid timers.

My guild leader bought stacks of 100's long before the "Anniversary Cards" and would pass them out on raid nights, of if guildies needed them.

I personally spent millions in plat, draining multiple plat capped toons on my last MOD spree for me 2nd main. I even had to bum 1 million plat from a guildie to buy yugo pots on an alt this last life, because none of my toons had more than 200K plat from buying timers on the AH. They are not expensive, 250K usually (It does not take much grinding to make 250K plat actually).

Timers are also not expensive to buy with TP.

So, there are LOTS of ways to get timers, not just from "Anniversary card playas".

Quote Originally Posted by Hara View Post

I'm still struggling to work out what I think Turbine should do with regard to Raid By Pass Timers, part of me wants them gone forever, but with so few end game raids I'm worried that what raid LFMs are up on a nightly basis will vanish as less players are able to run them due to being on timer. Then again wont Raid By Pass Timers simply accelerate the end of MoD as a played raid, as suggested by your asertion that lots of players have all the gear they need from it.

Without By Pass Timers your 20 runs will take a lot longer to achieve, just like in the past before they were introduced. Many people ran raids and got nothing until their 20th run and people still ran the raids.

I think that perhaps the answer is to have a stable of end game raids that have loot of comparable power with the chance of dropping +6 and +7 tomes, or possibly +5 supremes ( I guess you'll tell me everyone already has these) mixed in with a number of end quests such as HH and ToEE. Then maybe we can get rid of Raid By Pass Timers, of course if they do I imagine there will be a whole outcry and rage quit threads on the forums.
Personally, I think they should do away with raid timers altogether. It has always been a stupid mechanic and a relic of the days VON 6 was the only real raid in the game. Thank goodness they got rid of "flagging for every run" which was also something people argued against!

TOEE is a great example of a grind nobody wants to do. I've run it lately 1x a day, even with a strong group that knows what its doing, its too long and when I look at the grind, I'll probably never have a weapon from there. MOD, I will keep running on alts until they all have gear....will take several months WITH timers on my schedule, but it least it feels productive. Running TOEE? Fun for a while but no way am gonna grind like that to craft those weaps.