Constitution Based Dwarf Evasion Barbarian? (18 Barbarian/2 Rogue)

[nathan8374]

I was wondering if this would work or if I should stick to a pure barb

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Kaazo
Level 28 Neutral Good Dwarf Male
(18 Barbarian \ 2 Rogue \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 858
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 24
Reflex: 16 (Without items)
Will: 5

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (Without items)
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 14 15
Dexterity 16 21
Constitution 20 37
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 6 6

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
+5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
+5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19


Skills
Max out umd, intimidate, and jump

Level 1 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Barbarian)


Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 4 (Barbarian)


Level 5 (Barbarian)


Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Barbarian)


Level 8 (Barbarian)


Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 10 (Barbarian)


Level 11 (Barbarian)


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Barbarian)


Level 14 (Barbarian)


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Barbarian)


Level 17 (Barbarian)


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 19 (Rogue)


Level 20 (Rogue)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Lightning Reflexes


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Toughness
Enhancement: Dwarf - Dwarven Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Dwarf - Dwarven Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Dwarf - Dwarven Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Dwarf - Dwarven Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Dwarf - Dwarven Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Dwarf - Pick and Hammer Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Dwarf - Pick and Hammer Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Dwarf - Dwarven Runes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Dwarf - Dwarven Runes (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Dwarf - Pick and Hammer Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Dwarf - Pick and Hammer Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Dwarf - Throw Your Weight Around (Picks and Hammers) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Die Hard (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Frenzy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Frenzied Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Rage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Rage (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Rage (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Athletics (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Athletics (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Sprint Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Sprint Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Sprint Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Supreme Cleave (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Supreme Cleave (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Supreme Cleave (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Weapon Bond (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Extend Rage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Extend Rage (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Extend Rage (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Furious Rage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Pain Touch (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Demoralizing Success (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Pain Touch (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Do You Like Pain? (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Do You Like Pain? (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Do You Like Pain? (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Hardy Rage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Hardy Rage (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Hardy Rage (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - I Like Pain (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - I Like Pain (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - I Like Pain (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Action Boost: Melee Power (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Action Boost: Melee Power (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Action Boost: Melee Power (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - I Hit Back! (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - I Hit Back! (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - I Hit Back! (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Blood Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Critical Rage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Critical Rage (Rank 2)

[Discpsycho]

I recently TR'ed a TYWA TWF dwarf barbarian 20 and while I occasionally missed evasion, it didn't really end up being necessary. I used FB T5 for the healing over time (~50-70 Hp every 4 seconds with my awful gear) and used Blood Tribute for the worst traps.

Unless you're really gonna focus on saves (or gear yourself a lot better than I did), evasion isn't going to mitigate all that much damage. Barring an instakill that overwhelms Blood Tribute, the self-heals can bring your health back up again. I definitely preferred the capstone over a (small) chance at surviving the few things that could actually kill me.

[nathan8374]

I recently TR'ed a TYWA TWF dwarf barbarian 20 and while I occasionally missed evasion, it didn't really end up being necessary. I used FB T5 for the healing over time (~50-70 Hp every 4 seconds with my awful gear) and used Blood Tribute for the worst traps.

Unless you're really gonna focus on saves (or gear yourself a lot better than I did), evasion isn't going to mitigate all that much damage. Barring an instakill that overwhelms Blood Tribute, the self-heals can bring your health back up again. I definitely preferred the capstone over a (small) chance at surviving the few things that could actually kill me.

I thought as much. Evasion is probably not worth it for barbs. Thx for the input.

[unbongwah]

If you want trap skills, then by all means go for trap skills. But with the improvements to MRR, Evasion is no longer the must-have it once was; which is good, because hitting no-fail Reflex saves on a barb is still a PITA. Barb 18 / rog 1 / ftr 1 is a better split these days, IMHO.