U27 Loot thread (unofficial)

[arkonas]

Why not make a summon trinket? A trinket that makes a strong Archon or Devil. Kinda like a Shard of Xoriat.

i would love to see that like a mini harry

[Ape_Man]

I wish people would already understand how diverse the player base is, outside their close circle of friends.

Oh we understand, we just don't care.

[fmalfeas]

ya its a sham they let khopeshes become obsolete at epic lvl, up until u reach lvl 26 for the thunder forged, other then the thunder forged there is only 2 khopeshes for lvl 25 not counting the lvl 23-24 versions of them and they are just so so , then there are 3 lvl 20s u can get through epic crafting and also the lvl 21 drow weapon master. adding a named Khopesh to CiTW when it was released probly would have stalled the community's trend in not using them and the same can be said for dwarven axes


And i could see using 1 of the epic bleeding edges along with a thunderforged, i always liked using that hooked blade for Khopesh builds. and its nice to see limb chopper on more then just 2 epic weapons

i forgot to mention the completed Alchemical khopesh and iam not sure if there ToEE khopesh i havnt seen one yet

There are ToEE khopeshs. Crafting ones anyway. I've had like 9 of them. 3 caster, the rest melee.

Never seen a docent or great xbow drop though.

[Ape_Man]

Dumb question . . . this new Khopesh ANY better than an eChaos Blade? With it's min-level 20?

[Lauf]

you'll forgive me if I repeat anything that was already said, but I'm not about to read 6 pages worth of comments just to say that ML 13 loot with +5 stats on it should not be introduced.

either put +6 stat on it, or you're not doing me any favors, I'll still have to find a gear slot for my +6 to that stat.

so for my money, do away with the stat altogether and replace it with something useful that isn't a stat, or make it a +6 stat.

[Holymunchkin]

It's only been out for ~300 days so that involves ~200 bypasses, which not all of us have.

a lot of us have multiple toons we leave at cap

[Holymunchkin]

you're wrong as well. those are the only people who ran it to death maybe have one. for those who don't raid often or who just don't care won't have one. i've only ran it about 25 times myself and i picked up the ring for my paladin.

I believe he said "unless you don't care to run it" which you don't seem to care to run it. His point is fair, lol, why all the hatin'

[armagedan]

Dumb question . . . this new Khopesh ANY better than an eChaos Blade? With it's min-level 20?

looking them both over i would say the epic bleeding edge is better it has.....
+12 enhancement
base damage: 41.40
limb chopper
bloodletter VII: x3 15-120....x4+ 15-150 slashing
vampirism
1 red slot
1 orange slot

and u dont need to be chaotic or have the UMD to bypass
also u dont take a neg lvl if u are lawful

[Seikojin]

Lol?
Are you serious?
When you use a perma ff item, you can unequip it and that way reduce the drop time..

When you use a ff clickie you are stuck with at least 1 min 30 seconds of a useless buff.
Your argument makes 0 sense

As long as the flavor clickie has no detriment to the tiem (for abilities attached to the item) it has use for those who would want it, and means nothing to those who wouldn't want it. Now if it means that the item is down a useful ability? Then I say take it out. Otherwise it is just fine there, since those who use ff items will always keep one, and those who want to not swap out will have a ff option to turn on when they need it.

It makes sense to combine utility and slot function into items. It is absurd to require multiple item slots in inventory to pass the bar of par to run quests.

[Seikojin]

you'll forgive me if I repeat anything that was already said, but I'm not about to read 6 pages worth of comments just to say that ML 13 loot with +5 stats on it should not be introduced.

either put +6 stat on it, or you're not doing me any favors, I'll still have to find a gear slot for my +6 to that stat.

so for my money, do away with the stat altogether and replace it with something useful that isn't a stat, or make it a +6 stat.

I agree here. These items should have +6 stat on the ml 13 ...

[Holymunchkin]

By my flowchart every toon needs only 40-60 MoD runs.

That's about 180 days if you didn't use any bypass timers.
Since you can run the raid in 15min (at most if you're going to complete probably). That's only 15 hours playing the raid.
If you go faster (say 8min runs), you could concievably get all items in a day. 59 raid bypass timers comes out to 9000 TP, abouts. So $70.

Let's say I want to visit friends in Maine. I couldn't sit on a train for 15 hours for $70.

[armagedan]

[QUOTE=Holymunchkin;5649965]

you dont play artificers or tanks much by the look of it, knives eternal is awesome and the ring is a nice choice for a tank that wants to intmi and hold agro for high lvl EE raids/quests, ur math is right for getting 2 items taking about 2 months or so an item, if one cares to run it that much on 1-6 toons every 3 days for 4-6 months, i couldnt handle running it that often , would end up giving me a headach and burning me out on the game for abit. but i do have 4 toons that have atleast one of the items and 1 of them has 2

[macadope]

By my flowchart every toon needs only 40-60 MoD runs.

That's about 180 days if you didn't use any bypass timers.
Since you can run the raid in 15min (at most if you're going to complete probably). That's only 15 hours playing the raid.
If you go faster (say 8min runs), you could concievably get all items in a day. 59 raid bypass timers comes out to 9000 TP, abouts. So $70.

Let's say I want to visit friends in Maine. I couldn't sit on a train for 15 hours for $70.

For me a weekend of snowboarding is gonna be $500 minimum. And i don't mind cuz i have a great time. I don't mind spending money to have fun. Stop whining if you have to spend money.

[FuryFlash]

Here are some suggestions:

-Give all of the weapons unique Damage types, ie Light or Force based on description. Aren't these planar and archon based?
-Where is the light damage mitigation?
-Where is the alignment and metal bypassing? These items are for fighting against planar demons and devils
-Why dont they all have some sort of banishing? Make up something interesting in this regard
-One of these items should provide teleportation
-No bows?
-No handwraps?
-Stop putting Seeker 12 on EVERYTHING
-How many items do we already have for 11 Dexterity? How many do we have for other stats? Do the math. We don't need any more 11 Dex items
-We need more Insight 4 Items besides Necklace from HH. Stop inventing new stacking categories and just round out the selection of +3/4 Insight items/stats
-We need more Body sources of Deception V-X, and Insight Deception
-Find more places for Armor Piercing. The new cloak is a nice start
-How about items that provide increasing vulnerability to damage types via stacks? Maybe Light Vuln
-Put a 45 sec. cooldown Rejuv Coc. clicky on the Cloak affected by Pos Spell Power
-Make some gloves that give a Dex or Int based chance to throw an extra projectile with throwing weapons when equipped (but not Shuriken)

There are SO MANY more interesting things that could go on a new XPacks items that includes a raid at end game.

Why are these so power creepy and unimaginative? Or totally useless?

Really like these suggestions. Make this loot more unique and useful. There are so many things that could be put on these items that would be cool but not OP!

One thing I will say is that I love the cosmetics on these items. I believe that having a couple new archon armours would be awesome; maybe even give them a clicky for Leap of Faith (FVS Jump) for uniqueness?

[LightBear]

I like the loot a lot but I don't understand that there aren't any augments, why no augments?

No short swords, all those purple dragon knight bards are going to feel left out.
No rapier or any finesable either so all bards are going to feel left out.

No weapons with mods to the crit profile/multiplier?




The Band Immaterial should have Insightful focus +2 (so +2 for all schools), Insightful Spell Penetration +2 and a Green Slot.

[vengfarga]

a lot of us have multiple toons we leave at cap

Fair point, didn't think of that. Still a bit jealous of those of you who get to run it so often My own fault for living on the wrong side of the planet!

[vengfarga]

I believe he said "unless you don't care to run it" which you don't seem to care to run it. His point is fair, lol, why all the hatin'

That's a slight reinterpretation of the original comments! You clearly have a much higher diplo skill than Mr. A Lord.

[Holymunchkin]

That's a slight reinterpretation of the original comments! You clearly have a much higher diplo skill than Mr. A Lord.

lol

[Portalcat]

Depends on the DC required for the new content. It's not that appealing anyway, a ring for +2 Ench DC. Seems kinda..boring. If it had Ench + Evo, sure.

I, for one, welcome not having to slot the Sage's Mantle as the only way to get +5 enchant without having to give up the +1 exceptional on 2-handed Thunderforged, much less a stacking buff to enchant. This ring is an auto-slot on the standard Necro/Enchant DC caster.

I also welcome +7 to illusion DCs. That might be actually enough to make it worth running Phantasmal Killer.

[moo_cow]

I, for one, welcome not having to slot the Sage's Mantle as the only way to get +5 enchant without having to give up the +1 exceptional on 2-handed Thunderforged, much less a stacking buff to enchant. This ring is an auto-slot on the standard Necro/Enchant DC caster.

I also welcome +7 to illusion DCs. That might be actually enough to make it worth running Phantasmal Killer.

I have to agree. I haven't actually been playing with the sages mantle, but have been using the enchant on my scepter from TF. This allows me to slot the golden orb now.