Radiant Servant way too expensive!

[stoerm]

Clerics have two must-have feats: Quicken and Empower Heal. For raid healing I'd want Enlarge.

Turn related feats are junk.

Renewal and cocoon rock spot heals even for divines. Given the availability of these plus an AoE cure in ED's, I'm wondering if my sorc could make a good healer ...

If the group is moving it doesn't want my aura, so it's not an issue for me.

Radiant servant is expensive. It's true.

[Tlorrd]

So:
1) Remove the fluff {Divine Cleansing, Bliss, Purge Dark Magics, Divine Healing, Martyrdom} from Radiant Servant and replace some of it with actually useful abilities!

6) Who uses Pacifism EVER? It's a pointless AP sink and a required Core! Get rid of it and move the current Core 4 {Imp Empower} to Core 2 so as to make room for Radiant Aura at Core 4!

You need to understand how these buffs work and when to use them before just blowing them off ...

Pacifism
- Is a free +25 positive spell power clickie ... you turn it on, cast your aura, and then turn it off ... you aura now is enhanced by +25 spell power for its duration, that is pretty powerful. Same as drinking a superior ardor pot, thats an additional +25 alchemical bonus ... and oh yeah the universal +25 spell power pot, and improved empower heals give +100 positive spell power (that's +25 positive spell power more than the usual) ... all in all that is +100 positive spell power to your aura

Purge Dark Magics
- Have you ever tried to dispel crushing despair or symbol of pain that is cast on you? Only a bard with good hope can dispel crushing despair and nothing dispels symbol of pain since our greater dispel magic cannot beat the caster level of epic enemies. But wait, Purge Dark Magics dispels all with no DC. Not only does it do that, but fully maxed it dispels 3 harmful effects on you.

Understanding the symbiosis of spells and enhancements of the cleric are key to maximizing a caster/healing cleric

[SirValentine]

Pacifism
- Is a free +25 positive spell power clickie ... you turn it on, cast your aura, and then turn it off ... you aura now is enhanced by +25 spell power for its duration, that is pretty powerful.

So...it's useless if you don't have Positive Energy Aura, and a bunch of annoying extra clicks for a tiny bump even if you do? Got it.

Only a bard with good hope can dispel crushing despair

Nope. Good Hope comes on scrolls you can buy in stacks of 100, you know.
CORRECTION: I was wrong; you can't buy Good Hope scrolls from the vendor.
And at least one named clicky, too.

...Purge Dark Magics dispels all with no DC.

I couldn't get it to work on any negative effects I actually cared about. I'll believe you that it works fine on random little debuffs trash mobs cast, but it's simply not needed there. The places it would actually be useful, special Dark Magics cast by named bosses & such, it simply doesn't work at all.

[Tlorrd]

So...it's useless if you don't have Positive Energy Aura, and a bunch of annoying extra clicks for a tiny bump even if you do? Got it.

Although I appreciate your sarcasm, and I apologize to the OP if my previous post came across as sarcastic, not every core from every enhancement is made to be beneficial to all different builds and play styles. In the case of pacifism, there are times when a cleric may need to sit back and heal people for a few minutes, being able to click that on and off (w/o using a turn undead or spell points) is a nice positive power spell boost. At low heroic levels, this is very helpful. Not everyone sits on an end game build and then rage quits the class when something new comes along.

Nope. Good Hope comes on scrolls you can buy in stacks of 100, you know. And at least one named clicky, too.

I do know about the clicky, but I didn't know about a vendor that sold those scrolls. Please tell me which one. If you are talking about the auction house, that is a different matter.

I couldn't get it to work on any negative effects I actually cared about. I'll believe you that it works fine on random little debuffs trash mobs cast, but it's simply not needed there. The places it would actually be useful, special Dark Magics cast by named bosses & such, it simply doesn't work at all.

Please elaborate on which specific negative effects that you could not get dispelled.

[SirValentine]

I was actually going to answer several of your points & questions, but with your deliberate (and false) insults, you don't deserve a response.

However:

I didn't know about a vendor that sold those scrolls.

I was wrong about this. I thought they were sold at the Portable Hole, but I checked and they are not available there.

[Tlorrd]

I was actually going to answer several of your points & questions, but with your deliberate (and false) insults, you don't deserve a response.

However:



I was wrong about this. I thought they were sold at the Portable Hole, but I checked and they are not available there.

I appreciate your honesty and as one who has enjoyed reading your build posts in the past, I'm sorry we got off on the wrong foot. Hopefully they do some cleric pass that will bring enjoyment back to the class for those that wish to play cleric but find it lacking in its current state.

[FranOhmsford]

Although I appreciate your sarcasm, and I apologize to the OP if my previous post came across as sarcastic, not every core from every enhancement is made to be beneficial to all different builds and play styles. In the case of pacifism, there are times when a cleric may need to sit back and heal people for a few minutes, being able to click that on and off (w/o using a turn undead or spell points) is a nice positive power spell boost. At low heroic levels, this is very helpful. Not everyone sits on an end game build and then rage quits the class when something new comes along.

I try to take posts at face value unless the sarcasm is blatantly obvious {which I didn't find it to be in your previous post} as it's not easy to note sarcasm in written form.

However:

At low heroic levels, this is very helpful. Not everyone sits on an end game build and then rage quits the class when something new comes along.

Rofl!

I've NEVER sat on an End-Game build!

In five years playing this game I've never even HAD an End-Game Build!

And at Low Levels? Are you kidding me? Clerics at Low Levels don't even need Emp. Healing! They don't need Devotion! They don't need ANY spell power boosts!
All they need is 100 Cure Serious Pots!

If other people in party get hurt I can heal them up just fine with Unempowered Cure Mods - Cure Crits and possibly a Burst when necessary once I have it!

Once you get Aura you certainly don't need Spell Power Boosts other than Emp. Heal {It's free for Aura} and possibly a Devotion item/arugment if you can fit it in but even that's likely to be OVERHEAL!

Radiant Servant's concentration on Healing Spell Power is completely and utterly UNNECESSARY! What RS really needs is something BESIDES Healing!

I do know about the clicky, but I didn't know about a vendor that sold those scrolls. Please tell me which one. If you are talking about the auction house, that is a different matter.



Please elaborate on which specific negative effects that you could not get dispelled.

As for Crushing Despair and Symbol of Pain - I find them to be an irritant and nothing more!

Certainly not worth the AP to have a specific dispel ability for them!

In five years playing DDO I've NEVER had a need to cast Good Hope other than as a +2 dmg Buff {Heroism/GH gives everything else!}. I doubt I'd even bother wasting the spell points to remove Crushing Despair unless the timer on the buff was running low anyway.

[Tlorrd]

However:

Rofl!

I've NEVER sat on an End-Game build!

My end game build comment was directed at Sir V. Not you.

[Gramh_the_Bard]

I totally agree with everything! Stupid Turbine making me have to put points into an enhancement tree to be good at something specific to the class! I shouldn't have to choose between using my turns to heal and casting awesome damage spells! Both trees should be free so I can put more points into my Bladeforged tree! RAGE!

[stoerm]

Dorris grumbles something about too many caps and exclamations, and not enough empathy.