Returning Player Drow Rogue

[JStone]

Hello i used to play the game back before the enhancement trees (U19?)

I have a level 3 Drow rogue that i used my heart of wood to create (she has bound tomes so i dont want to scrap her)...
She has Str 10, Dex 18, Con 12, Int 16, Wis 12, Cha 10

i am not sure what i was thinking when i made her but i would like some advice on what to play with these stats
I am thinking some sort of Assassin build, but possibly mechanic i suppose.


I also have a lvl 13 drow that i havent re-made yet i am thinking of making her an acrobat monk possibly

[slarden]

Hi and Welcome Back!

Both builds are much better than they were around U19.

i would suggest trying a repeater build which is stronger "out of the box" at the moment. Assassins can be really good at end game, but they are more gear dependent, are less forgiving and have a much longer learning curve.

[Hobgoblin]

That sounds like you have plenty of time to pick,

But its not as simple as mechanic/assassin

you can go either way and pick up a lot of good stuff from both trees

so its more of if you want to go ranged or not!

[UurlockYgmeov]

Welcome Back!

check out my sig for the green link (catching up) and Character Builder Lite (character planner)

Also - look at GXB(Great Crossbow)

[Jiirix]

Hello i used to play the game back before the enhancement trees (U19?)

I have a level 3 Drow rogue that i used my heart of wood to create (she has bound tomes so i dont want to scrap her)...
She has Str 10, Dex 18, Con 12, Int 16, Wis 12, Cha 10

i am not sure what i was thinking when i made her but i would like some advice on what to play with these stats
I am thinking some sort of Assassin build, but possibly mechanic i suppose.


I also have a lvl 13 drow that i havent re-made yet i am thinking of making her an acrobat monk possibly

Just as two examples: A DEX based assassin with the harper tree and an INT based mechanic without harper. (Mechanic without harper works fine, as you can get lots of nice stuff from Assassin, but it does not work the other way around. Assassins don't profit from the Mechanic tree and it's better to take AP in harper when two weapon fighting.) The tomes are not needed but handy. I just altered the ability points a bit to match yours, most rogue builds work fine with your choice of points. Feats are cheap to swap at level 3 and enhancements can always be swapped for plat. Welcome back and have fun.

Stoner Mechanic
Rogue 20 True Neutral Drow
Stats
. . . . . . . .28pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . --------
Strength. . . . 10. . . . . . . . 4: INT
Dexterity . . . 18. . . .+3. . . .8: INT
Constitution. . 12. . . . . . . .12: INT
Intelligence. . 16. . . .+2. . . 16: INT
Wisdom. . . . . 12. . . . . . . .20: INT
Charisma. . . . 10. . . . . . . .24: INT
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: INT
Skills
. . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Disable . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Open Lo . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Search. . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Spot. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Bluff . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Balance . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Hide. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Move Si . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Haggle. . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
UMD . . . 3. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 23
Jump. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 13
Concent . . . . . .½ .½ .½ .½ .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .11
Heal. . . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
Tumble. . 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .44 11 11 12 12 12 12 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 14 14 14 14 14

Feats
.1. . . . : Point Blank Shot
.3. . . . : Rapid Reload
.6. . . . : Rapid Shot
.9. . . . : Precise Shot
10 Rogue. : Improved Evasion
12. . . . : Improved Critical: Ranged
13 Rogue. : Slippery Mind
15. . . . : Improved Precise Shot
16 Rogue. : Opportunist
18. . . . : Precision
19 Rogue. : Skill Mastery
21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic . : Improved Sneak Attack
26 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Positive
27 Epic . : Combat Archery
28 Destiny: Doubleshot
Enhancements (80 AP)

Drow (6 AP)

• Spell Resistance, Intelligence, Spell Resistance II, Intelligence

Assassin (27 AP)

• Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back, Assassin's Trick
  
  1. Poison Strikes: Heartseeker, Sneak Attack Training
  2. Venomed Blades III, Sneak Attack Training, Damage Boost III
  3. Critical Mastery I, Sneak Attack Training, Intelligence
  4. Killer III, Sneak Attack Training, Intelligence

Mechanic (44 AP)

• Arbalester, Tanglefoot, Targeting Sights, Improved Detection, Expert Builder, Hip Flask
  
  1. Sharpshooter, Mechanics II, Awareness II
  2. Sharpshooter, Improved Traps III, Wand and Scroll Mastery III, Skill Boost I
  3. Sharpshooter, Intelligence
  4. Sharpshooter, Fletching III, Intelligence
  5. Sharpshooter, Rapid Fire III, Time Bomb III, Sniper, Mechanical Reloader

Thief-Acrobat (3 AP)

• Staff Control
  
  1. Fast Movement

Stoner Assassin
Rogue 20 True Neutral Drow
Stats
. . . . . . . .28pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . --------
Strength. . . . 10. . . . . . . . 4: DEX
Dexterity . . . 18. . . .+3. . . .8: DEX
Constitution. . 12. . . . . . . .12: DEX
Intelligence. . 16. . . .+2. . . 16: DEX
Wisdom. . . . . 12. . . . . . . .20: DEX
Charisma. . . . 10. . . . . . . .24: DEX
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: DEX

Skills
. . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Disable . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Open Lo . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Search. . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Spot. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Bluff . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Balance . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Hide. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Move Si . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
UMD . . . 3. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 23
Haggle. . 4. 1. 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .14
Concent . . . . . .½ .½ .½ .½ .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .11
Heal. . . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
Tumble. . 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .44 11 11 11 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12

Feats
.1. . . . : Two Weapon Fighting
.3. . . . : Precision
.6. . . . : Weapon Focus: Piercing
.9. . . . : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
10 Rogue. : Improved Evasion
12. . . . : Improved Critical: Piercing
13 Rogue. : Slippery Mind
15. . . . : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
16 Rogue. : Opportunist
18. . . . : Two Weapon Defense
19 Rogue. : Skill Mastery
21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic . : Improved Sneak Attack
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic . : Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Elusive Target

Enhancements (80 AP)

Drow (6 AP)

• Spell Resistance, Dexterity, Spell Resistance II, Dexterity

Assassin (41 AP)

• Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back, Assassin's Trick, Nimbleness, Lethality, Deadly Shadow
  
  1. Poison Strikes: Heartseeker, Sneak Attack Training, Stealthy III
  2. Venomed Blades III, Sneak Attack Training, Damage Boost III
  3. Sneak Attack Training, Dexterity
  4. Killer III, Sneak Attack Training, Dexterity
  5. Assassinate, Measure the Foe III, Knife Specialization, Light Armor Mastery III

Thief-Acrobat (3 AP)

• Staff Control
  
  1. Fast Movement

Harper Agent (30 AP)

• Agent of Good I, Dexterity, Agent of Good II, Dexterity
  
  1. Harper Enchantment, Traveler's Toughness III
  2. Magical Endurance III, Versatile Adept III, Know the Angles III
  3. Versatile Adept III, Dexterity
  4. Vigor of Life, Versatile Adept I, Dexterity

[Saekee]

Hi and Welcome Back!

Both builds are much better than they were around U19.

i would suggest trying a repeater build which is stronger "out of the box" at the moment. Assassins can be really good at end game, but they are more gear dependent, are less forgiving and have a much longer learning curve.

Just to add--if you stay a pure rogue, you can run as a mech GXBow until level 28 then epic reincarnate into a pure assassin. As a mechanic you can join groups to fight from the rear--farm out your assassin gear!