Build advice for my lovely wife

[BoBoDaClown]

My wife has returned to the game - she left when the cap was 20, prior to epic destinies.

Her character is a 18/1/1 Ranger Fighter Rogue. The character would TWF and manyshot on cool-down.

She would like to remain a ranger. I think she would prefer it if she could keep that playstyle of 80% TWF, 20% range. However, she would be happy purely TWF if that is better.

Could you give me advice on a build - trying to build in DPS and defense. She would be happy with pure or a mutt.

A mutt - 15 odd ranger, 4 paladin/fighter, 1 fvs? Anyway, any ideas would be good.

She has:
-LR20 - to reincarnate into whatever good idea you come up with.
-standard LR- if the level split is to remain
-2 x raiders box - for some decent equipment at level 23.
-standard old-school level 20 gear
-access to everything

Ideas please!

Thank you

[Tscheuss]

EllisDee's Tempest Trapmonkey build is rather fun.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...or-new-players

[BoBoDaClown]

Some good advice/reading in there.

No interest in rogue tho.

How about adding 3-4 levels of fighter/pally for stalwart defence and 1 level of FVS for DM.

Using 2x Balizarde + Heavy Armour. Is Ranger fine to use Heavy Armour? (just loses evasion) Other options are medium armour+lots of dodge. Mornhs instead of Balizardes.

Feats:

1. Power Attack
2. Fighter: Point Blank Shot
3 Quicken
4 Fighter: Precision
6 Dodge
9 Improved Critical: Piercing for now - using Balizardes
12 Empower Healing Spell
15 Improved Critical: Range
18 Mobility
21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic . :Combat Archery
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic . : Blinding Speed
28 Elusive target

Then Action Points:
Tempest ~46 Tier 5s
Stalwart ~23 PRR/MRR +6str +20% HP
Kensai ~4 Haste Boosts
FVS ~4 DM

3 spare points


How does that build look?

[UurlockYgmeov]

Welcome her back!

Remind her to just play and have fun!

Have fun storming the er.... castles!

[cru121]

15 odd ranger, 4 paladin/fighter, 1 fvs?

Noyellowbar?

Or the reverse split 14-15 paladin / 5-6 ranger. Holy sword, sacred stance, T5 in Tempest for Dance of Death.

[BoBoDaClown]

Noyellowbar?

Or the reverse split 14-15 paladin / 5-6 ranger. Holy sword, sacred stance, T5 in Tempest for Dance of Death.

You mean monk? For 10k stars? Tbh I know very little about monks, since I only play bards... (can't splash monk) What is the advantage of monk? What kind of splash would you be talking?

So the pally, you would go TWF pally, tempest for AOE damage?

Thank you for your thoughts

[cru121]

actually, noyellowbar was advertised as a 100% monk-free build: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...in-1Fighter%29

the reverse split can be anything, but I guess TWF is preferred to have some synergy with Tempest tree. But you can DoD with SWF/THF as well IIRC (might be not wai).

Here's a 15/5 from unbongwah: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5468602

[BoBoDaClown]

actually, noyellowbar was advertised as a 100% monk-free build: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...in-1Fighter%29

the reverse split can be anything, but I guess TWF is preferred to have some synergy with Tempest tree. But you can DoD with SWF/THF as well IIRC (might be not wai).

Here's a 15/5 from unbongwah: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5468602

Gotcha.

Thank you for the advice- i'll check those builds out.

[cdbd3rd]

Build advice for my lovely wife

The safe answer is ALWAYS, "You're already built just right, dear."


(Trust me. I failed this answer once. It wasn't pretty...)

[AbyssalMage]

Can always try the "Totally Backwards Ranger" which should be fairly decent.

Been contemplating Elf Dragon Marked 15 Ranger/3 Fighter/2 Monk wearing Heavy Armor. If I don't like the Heavy Armor I'll just drop it for Light. I'm really torn on the 2nd/3rd class though and haven't come to a final decision if it will be 3/2 or 4/1. The 4/1 split I am leaning towards Paladin/Wizard for the free Cleave in Wizard and 4 Pally goodness + Defense. Although 3 Paladin/2 Wizard could be interesting. but pretty positive 2 wizard doesn't add enough to even consider.

[BoBoDaClown]

The safe answer is ALWAYS, "You're already built just right, dear."


(Trust me. I failed this answer once. It wasn't pretty...)

nice

[BoBoDaClown]

Can always try the "Totally Backwards Ranger" which should be fairly decent.

Been contemplating Elf Dragon Marked 15 Ranger/3 Fighter/2 Monk wearing Heavy Armor. If I don't like the Heavy Armor I'll just drop it for Light. I'm really torn on the 2nd/3rd class though and haven't come to a final decision if it will be 3/2 or 4/1. The 4/1 split I am leaning towards Paladin/Wizard for the free Cleave in Wizard and 4 Pally goodness + Defense. Although 3 Paladin/2 Wizard could be interesting. but pretty positive 2 wizard doesn't add enough to even consider.

Thank you. I checked that out. In the end I read a bunch of builds and went:

Elf
Tempest 15 Paladin 4 Kensai 1
Str based
Heavy Armour
Duel Rapiers

Nothing based on DC. I play CC toons, so she won't need it. All focus on dps and defence.

Thank you for the advice people.

[Wipey]

I was gonna say that old exploiter is still okay and just etr for more int and kta, but you already used the 20 heart.

I have the exact same split on elf. Dropped PA altogether, have Extend and DM ( if I have elf, I might as well use the racial ability ). 20 Devo instead of Elusive target.

Can't imagine how I'd find spare points for stance though. 11 for Exposing Strike, 11 I think in racial, 7 in AA for blunt arrows ( with Pulverizer ) and Magical training, 11 or 13 in Kotc for DM 3 ( plus heal amp ).
36 in Tempest.
Sometimes use heavy armour ( mainly for TF 30 dr, hit points are not exactly stellar so it very rarely comes to 60 dr ) but it's questionable if more prr makes up for tanked Dodge.

[Eth]

actually, noyellowbar was advertised as a 100% monk-free build: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...in-1Fighter%29

The name was a joke on the min/max meta at the time I posted the build, where basically every cookie cutter build had some monk levels (and therefore a 'yellow-bar').

The build is updated and still works fine nowadays by the way. With the introduction of ranged power in U25 it got most of the power back it lost when masters blitz was changed in U23 (which made melee/ranged hybrid builds rather bad at that point and made me ultimately TR out of it).

With points spent in 7 different enhancement trees it's also as 'mutt' as it can get

[the_one_dwarfforged]

if i was to do a ranger build, i would do 15 ranger 4 fighter 1 rogue/barb str/int build with stunning blow.

15 ranger gets you pretty much everything thats worth having from the class while giving you 5 levels to improve your character with.

4 fighter gives you more feats, haste boost, tactics dc bonus, a little bit more double strike, a small +dmg proc, defensive stance, and medium and heavy armor proficiency (which if you use will allow you to gain +6 strength from defensive stance).

1 rogue gives 1d6 more sneak attack, umd as a class skill, and the option to trap if desired.

1 barb gives more power attack and more run speed.

from the harper tree you can take know the angles which applies its bonuses directly to dmg, and therefore should gain the full bonus to both mainhand and offhand (afaik it should work like this, could be wrong) unlike strength (divine might) which only gets half the bonus to offhand.

15/4/1 rgr/pal/ftr pretty much the same thing, but my personal preference for twf would be to use kta.

i wouldnt really spend any enhancements on ranged personally, free manyshot gets the job done for any situation where you simply cant melee.

[voodoogroves]

Just piping in with a few things I'm trying out currently in alt-land.

Human - Ranger 11 / Wizard 5 / Paladin 4
- EK Tier 5 (35)
- Tempest up to T3s (17)
- KOTC for Divine Might, CHA (22 ish)
- Bit in AA for conjure arrows because I'm lazy but I will absolutely use Manyshot plus some human
- Decent STR, CHA to start ... levels into CHA
- Go non-human and drop Khopesh
- You have plenty of feats


Bladeforged - Ranger 12 / Paladin 6 / Monk 2 or Ranger 11 / Paladin 6 / Monk 3
- Tempest T5 (39)
- Again Ranger for the free feats, using CHA / STR primarily w/ levels into CHA
- Bladeforged for recon / power of the forge
- Went w/ Whirling Steel Strike (so Kamas, Longswords mostly)
- Enough feats to fit in what you need including the Adept / Master / Grandmaster since Ranger takes care of so much
- Enough AA for conjure arrows
- Did this on a character with moderately significant amp, so plan to play off that

Your Ranger / Pal / Fighter sounds awesome too!

[Gedov]

Above all, let your wife choose something that she will have fun with; but here's my suggestion.

A mutt that chooses wizardry over the usual fighter levels, but is a whole LOT of fun to play is my personal choice of:

Ranger (12) / Wizard (7) / Rogue (1)
[ could go 14/5/1 alternatively if you prefer ]

The way I build it it's a dex-based Tempest TWF that relies on carrying a host of situational weaponry, wizardry for buffs and even more situational uses, and a bit of roguery for traps/locks/sneak atk/good fun. I will be restarting this build for a 5th life within the next two weeks and can tell you that it is a lot of fun, but at times can be a pain to keep alive.