AirForged the last Firebender (BF Sorc 18 2 Pal) U25

[UurlockYgmeov]

Uurlock is about to finish his OzyMoronic Barbarian / Shadow-Kai lives. Having had a blast.

Time to do Bladeforged and Sorcerer lives. Am sure is simple and straight forward, but thought I would post and get feedback - suggestions.

Goals: Bladeforged and Sorcerer Past Lives along with multiple Primal and Arcane Past Lives, EE Capable, FUN!

Have all destinies, and lots of past lives. Planning on Running in Shiradi Champion for Primal past lives, and either Magister or Draconic Incarnation for Arcane (don't know which will be better).

Have lots of gear... and will be posting gear level by level and turning this into a build.

VERY ROUGH Draft (mk I). Gear after lv15/16 is just placeholder text at this moment.

Twists of fate... scratching head on.

Adamantine Body and ASF is also something working through. Worst case is to change to Mithral Body.

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BUILD DIFFICULTY RATING:

Skill Level: Intermediate
Past Lives: Helpful (Wizard, FvS and Sorc would also be helpful)
Gear Level: Intermediate
Survivability: Excellent
DPS: Excellent
Utility: Excellent (Buffer)
Traps: n/a
P2P: Yes - Bladeforged (the build calls for Bladeforged but can be used on any race)
Tomes: not needed, but ability and skill tomes for spellcasting helpful (spellcraft, perform, repair, concentration)

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AirForged the last Firebender
18/2 Sorcerer/Paladin
Lawful Good Bladeforged

Level Order
1. Paladin . . . . 6. Sorcerer. . . .11. Sorcerer. . . .16. Sorcerer
2. Sorcerer . . . .7. Sorcerer . . . 12. Sorcerer . . . 17. Sorcerer
3. Sorcerer . . . .8. Sorcerer . . . 13. Sorcerer . . . 18. Sorcerer
4. Sorcerer . . . .9. Sorcerer . . . 14. Sorcerer . . . 19. Sorcerer
5. Sorcerer . . . 10. Sorcerer . . . 15. Paladin . . . .20. Sorcerer

Stats
. . . . . . . .28pt. . .32pt. . .34pt. . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .----. . .----. . .----. . .---- . . ---- . . --------
Strength. . . . .8 . . . .8 . . . .8 . . . .8. . . .+5. . . .4: CHA
Dexterity . . . .7 . . . .7 . . . .9 . . . .9. . . .+5. . . .8: CHA
Constitution. . 16 . . . 18 . . . 18 . . . 18. . . .+5. . . 12: CHA
Intelligence. . 12 . . . 12 . . . 12 . . . 12. . . .+5. . . 16: CHA
Wisdom. . . . . .7 . . . .7 . . . .7 . . . .9. . . .+5. . . 20: CHA
Charisma. . . . 18 . . . 18 . . . 18 . . . 18. . . .+5. . . 24: CHA
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28: CHA

Skills
. . . . . P .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .P. S. S. S. S. S
. . . . . 1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 .7 .8 .9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Balance . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2
Concent . 4 .1 .1 .1 . . . .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .2 .2 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Repair. . . . . 1. . .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
Spellcr . . .2 . . 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 1. 1. 1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .23
Tumble. . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1
UMD . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ½ .1 .1 .1 .1 .1½. 7
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .12 .3 .3 .3 .3 .3 .4 .4 .4 .4 .4 .4 .4 .4 .5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5

Feats
.1. . . . : Adamantine Body
.1 Deity. : Follower of: Lord of Blades
.3. . . . : Maximize Spell
.6. . . . : Empower Spell
.9. . . . : Extend Spell
12. . . . : Quicken Spell
15. . . . : Mental Toughness
18. . . . : Improved Mental Toughness
21 Epic . : Epic Mental Toughness
24 Epic . : Heighten Spell
26 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Electricity
27 Epic . : Ruin
28 Destiny: Hellball

Spells

1. Expeditious Retreat, Jump, Magic Missile, Nightshield
2. Electric Loop, Gust of Wind, Web, Snowball Swarm
3. Chain Missiles, Displacement, Haste, Repair Serious Damage
4. Ice Storm, Dimension Door, Force Missiles, Wall of Fire
5. Ball Lightning, Cloudkill, Eladar's Electric Surge, Teleport
6. Chain Lightning, Reconstruct, Tenser's Transformation
7. Prismatic Spray, Delayed Blast Fireball, Finger of Death
8. Sunburst, Incendiary Cloud
9. Energy Drain

Enhancements (80 AP)
Bladeforged (16 AP)

• Improved Fortification
  
  1. Mechanist III, Inscribed Armor III
  2. Communion of Scribing III

Air Savant (38 AP)

• Air Savant, Air Affinity, Greater Air Affinity, Conduction, Light on Your Feet
  
  1. Shocking Grasp III, Spell Critical, Electrocution III
  2. Spell Critical, Alternating Current III
  3. Spell Critical, Charisma
  4. Electric Loop III, Feather Fall, Spell Critical, Charisma
  5. Lightning Bolt III, Wind Dance, Power of Force

Fire Savant (26 AP)

• Fire Savant, Fire Affinity, Greater Fire Affinity, Immolation
  
  1. Spell Critical, Conflagration III
  2. Efficient Quicken III, Spell Critical, Fanning the Flames III
  3. Spell Critical, Charisma
  4. Spell Critical

Destiny (24 AP)
Shirardi Champion

1. Wild Shots I, Healing Spring III
2. Prism, Fey Spring III, Fey Form III
3. Rainbow
4. Double Rainbow, Elemental Absorption I
5. Stand and Deliver, Nerve Venom III
6. Audience with the Queen

Twists of Fate (47 fate points) - Error

1. Empyrean Magic (Tier 3 Crusader)
2. Energy Burst: Electricity (Tier 4 Draconic)
3. Spell Augmentation (Tier 4 Draconic)
4. Legendary Shield Mastery (Tier 2 Sentinel)

[UurlockYgmeov]

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Level 15 Stats:
(reserved for future)

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Level 15 Gear:
Face: GreenSteel Con-Op Wis SP
Head: GreenSteel MinII Helm
Neck: Torc of Prince Raiyum-de II / Sage's Locket (Level 15)
Trinket: Blasting Chime (Level 15) / Pale Lavender Ioun Stone (unsuppressed) / Litany of the Dead
Cloak: Cloak of Flames (Level 15) (Combustion 90 and Fire Lore 15%)
Belt: Cannith MCI Belt (yellow clear) Con +6 (Deathblock and +7 (+9)Spellcraft )
Ring (swap): Ring of Master Artifice (Level 15) (Repair +90 and Recon Lore 15%)
Gloves: Seven Fingered Gloves (-10% ASF and +5 UMD)
Boots: Cannith MCI ring (yellow + clear) resistance +5 (feather falling / master's gift)
Ring: Ring of Lies (Chr)
Wrist: Bracers of Wind (Level 15) (Magnetism +90 / Lightning Lore 15% / Blurry)
Body: Blue Dragonscale Docent
Quiver: Quiver of Alacrity
Main: GreenSteel Con-Op Stick
Orb (off hand): Fanion orGolden Orb of Death (Level 7) (purple: sapphire ASF: Red: )

MISSING: vitality +20 / PRR / MRR / repair skill

OPTIONS:
guardians gauntlets (con +8)

[UurlockYgmeov]

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Level 16/18 Stats:
(reserved for future)

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Level 16 Gear:

Topaz of Evocation Focus +1

MISSING:

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Level 18 Gear:
Belt: Calitomes' Sash
Ring: Calitomes' Ring (Insightful Charisma +2)


MISSING:

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Level 19 Gear:
Ring (swap):Guardian's Ring (Level 19) (Topaz of Deathblock)

MISSING:

[UurlockYgmeov]

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Level 20 Stats:
(reserved for future)

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Level 20 Gear:
Head:Epic Helm of the Red Dragon (Topaz of Fear Immunity)
Neck: Torc of Prince Raiyum-de II / Sage's Locket (Level 15)
Trinket:Epic Blasting Chime / Pale Lavender / Litany of the Dead
Cloak: Mysterious Cloak (Level 14)
Ring (swap):Guardian's Ring (Level 19)
Gloves: Purple Dragon Gauntlets
Ring:Epic Ring of Master Artifice (Repair +90 Lore 19% / (slot : slot)
Wrist:Epic Bracers of Wind (lv15) Magnetism +90 / Lightning Lore 15%
Body: Epic Red Dragonscale Docent (Sapphire of Heavy Fortification: Diamond of Exceptional Charisma +1)

comments:

don't need cloak of flames if wearing epic red dragon docent.

MISSING:

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Level 21 Gear:
Cloak: Mysterious Cloak (Level 21)

Comments: just upgrading the mysterious cloak from level 14 to level 21.

MISSING:

[UurlockYgmeov]

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Level 23/24 Stats:
(reserved for future)

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Level 23 Gear:
Trinket: Planar Focus of Erudition (Insightful +3 Chr)
Primary: Twilight, Element of Magic (combustion 120 + ? 114 socketed) +
S+B: Mornh, Hammer of the Mountains + Fanion
Ranged: Pinion, Cloud-piercer

Comments: Massive Spell Power upgrade

MISSING:

Topaz of Greater Evocation Focus

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Level 24 Gear:
Gloves: Iron Mitts

Comments: upgrading

MISSING:

[UurlockYgmeov]

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Level 25/26 Stats:
(reserved for future)

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Level 25 Gear:
Neck: Iron Beads (Level 25) (Diamond of Intelligence +7, Topaz of Greater Evocation) / Swap: Torc of Prince Raiyum-de II
Ring (swap): Ring of Deceit (Voice of Deceit , Charisma +8, Topaz of Deathblock, Globe of True Imperial Blood)
Boots: Halcyon Boots (Halcyon Mind, Dexterity +8, Potency +80, Striding 30%, Slots: Draconic Soul Gem, Diamond of Insightful Con +2)
Wrist: ???



MISSING:

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Level 26 Gear:
Ring (swap): Lantern Ring (sapphire of good luck +2 and diamond of vitality +20)
Off Hand: Libram of Silver Magic (charisma +11, orange: ruby of impulse 114)



MISSING:

[UurlockYgmeov]

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Level 27/28 Stats:
(reserved for future)

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Level 27 Gear:

Belt: Epic Chord of Reprisals (charisma +11, perform +20, sheltering +24, resonance +144, topaz of feather falling)
Gloves: Epic Fanged Gloves ( Intelligence +11, arcane casting dex -10%, blurry, Magical Efficiency 10%, (blue or yellow))
Wrist: Epic Inferno Bracers (constitution +11 combustion 144, spellcraft +20, (yellow or blue))


MISSING:

[pappo]

Looks like a fun build.
I have a lv 28 BF sorc, ready to eTR.

What is the Cannith MCI gear. I could not find it on DDO Wiki ?

[UurlockYgmeov]

Looks like a fun build.
I have a lv 28 BF sorc, ready to eTR.

What is the Cannith MCI gear. I could not find it on DDO Wiki ?

That is what I am hoping.

Vaults of the Artificers loot, commonly referred to as Cannith Challenge gear. You can upgrade most of the loot to tier 3 - which usually adds BtC (instead of BtA) and the ability to craft onto it. SO you can add MCI (masterful craftsmanship I) - which lowers the minimum level (except on epic gear can't go lower than 20).

Most of the Vault of the Artificers loot is great, relatively easy to get (especially this weekend with +50% challenge mats), and often overlooked.

bracers of wind (ml:4) - blur
rock boots (ml:4) - the stone prison guard proc's allot
ring of the stalker (ml:9) - manslayer
ring of the master artifice - no warforged/bladeforged should be without

[Elibolas]

How come so much in Fire Savant? A modest investment in EK could get you another -10 ASF, plus Mage Armor and Shield. Are you having problems with your ASF?

Elibolas

[macadope]

Sometimes I call my son the last fartbender.

[UurlockYgmeov]

How come so much in Fire Savant? A modest investment in EK could get you another -10 ASF, plus Mage Armor and Shield. Are you having problems with your ASF?

Elibolas

Am considering it. Don't think there will be an issue, but since haven't played a sorc before (just about everything else) - this suggestion helps.

[UurlockYgmeov]

IR'd back to 1 today.

Realized I had 1 life of bladeforged already done, so going to do a quick 1-20 sorc to help sort out the gear and enhancements. Still doing a 18 Sorc 2 Pal but as drow. Yes, a lawful good drow.... something wrong, seriously wrong with that.

For the most part not worrying about gear. Started with a couple of odds and ends (shield and exp retreat clicky) and the Ember Greataxe. Love the start robe... +1 to caster level. Haven't seen that before.

Been a blast! Using frozen tunic from challenges, bracers of wind, and blasting chime to just power through. EK tree gives a cleave... and well, nothing lives. ;p

Lesser might of the abishai set, goggles of haste, and some cannith crafted gear....

Next up --- level 10!

[adrian69]

Uurlock is about to finish his OzyMoronic Barbarian / Shadow-Kai lives. Having had a blast.

Time to do Bladeforged and Sorcerer lives. Am sure is simple and straight forward, but thought I would post and get feedback - suggestions.

Goals: Bladeforged and Sorcerer Past Lives along with multiple Primal and Arcane Past Lives, EE Capable, FUN!

Have all destinies, and lots of past lives. Planning on Running in Shiradi Champion for Primal past lives, and either Magister or Draconic Incarnation for Arcane (don't know which will be better).

Have lots of gear... and will be posting gear level by level and turning this into a build.

VERY ROUGH Draft (mk I). Gear after lv15/16 is just placeholder text at this moment.

Twists of fate... scratching head on.

Adamantine Body and ASF is also something working through. Worst case is to change to Mithral Body.

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BUILD DIFFICULTY RATING:

Skill Level: Intermediate
Past Lives: Helpful (Wizard, FvS and Sorc would also be helpful)
Gear Level: Intermediate
Survivability: Excellent
DPS: Excellent
Utility: Excellent (Buffer)
Traps: n/a
P2P: Yes - Bladeforged (the build calls for Bladeforged but can be used on any race)
Tomes: not needed, but ability and skill tomes for spellcasting helpful (spellcraft, perform, repair, concentration)

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AirForged the last Firebender
18/2 Sorcerer/Paladin
Lawful Good Bladeforged

Level Order
1. Paladin . . . . 6. Sorcerer. . . .11. Sorcerer. . . .16. Sorcerer
2. Sorcerer . . . .7. Sorcerer . . . 12. Sorcerer . . . 17. Sorcerer
3. Sorcerer . . . .8. Sorcerer . . . 13. Sorcerer . . . 18. Sorcerer
4. Sorcerer . . . .9. Sorcerer . . . 14. Sorcerer . . . 19. Sorcerer
5. Sorcerer . . . 10. Sorcerer . . . 15. Paladin . . . .20. Sorcerer

Stats
. . . . . . . .28pt. . .32pt. . .34pt. . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .----. . .----. . .----. . .---- . . ---- . . --------
Strength. . . . .8 . . . .8 . . . .8 . . . .8. . . .+5. . . .4: CHA
Dexterity . . . .7 . . . .7 . . . .9 . . . .9. . . .+5. . . .8: CHA
Constitution. . 16 . . . 18 . . . 18 . . . 18. . . .+5. . . 12: CHA
Intelligence. . 12 . . . 12 . . . 12 . . . 12. . . .+5. . . 16: CHA
Wisdom. . . . . .7 . . . .7 . . . .7 . . . .9. . . .+5. . . 20: CHA
Charisma. . . . 18 . . . 18 . . . 18 . . . 18. . . .+5. . . 24: CHA
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28: CHA

Skills
. . . . . P .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .S .P. S. S. S. S. S
. . . . . 1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 .7 .8 .9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Balance . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2
Concent . 4 .1 .1 .1 . . . .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .2 .2 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Repair. . . . . 1. . .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
Spellcr . . .2 . . 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 1. 1. 1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .23
Tumble. . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1
UMD . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ½ .1 .1 .1 .1 .1½. 7
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .12 .3 .3 .3 .3 .3 .4 .4 .4 .4 .4 .4 .4 .4 .5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5

Feats
.1. . . . : Adamantine Body
.1 Deity. : Follower of: Lord of Blades
.3. . . . : Maximize Spell
.6. . . . : Empower Spell
.9. . . . : Extend Spell
12. . . . : Quicken Spell
15. . . . : Mental Toughness
18. . . . : Improved Mental Toughness
21 Epic . : Epic Mental Toughness
24 Epic . : Heighten Spell
26 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Electricity
27 Epic . : Ruin
28 Destiny: Hellball

Spells

1. Expeditious Retreat, Jump, Magic Missile, Nightshield
2. Electric Loop, Gust of Wind, Web, Snowball Swarm
3. Chain Missiles, Displacement, Haste, Repair Serious Damage
4. Ice Storm, Dimension Door, Force Missiles, Wall of Fire
5. Ball Lightning, Cloudkill, Eladar's Electric Surge, Teleport
6. Chain Lightning, Reconstruct, Tenser's Transformation
7. Prismatic Spray, Delayed Blast Fireball, Finger of Death
8. Sunburst, Incendiary Cloud
9. Energy Drain

Enhancements (80 AP)
Bladeforged (16 AP)

• Improved Fortification
  
  1. Mechanist III, Inscribed Armor III
  2. Communion of Scribing III

Air Savant (38 AP)

• Air Savant, Air Affinity, Greater Air Affinity, Conduction, Light on Your Feet
  
  1. Shocking Grasp III, Spell Critical, Electrocution III
  2. Spell Critical, Alternating Current III
  3. Spell Critical, Charisma
  4. Electric Loop III, Feather Fall, Spell Critical, Charisma
  5. Lightning Bolt III, Wind Dance, Power of Force

Fire Savant (26 AP)

• Fire Savant, Fire Affinity, Greater Fire Affinity, Immolation
  
  1. Spell Critical, Conflagration III
  2. Efficient Quicken III, Spell Critical, Fanning the Flames III
  3. Spell Critical, Charisma
  4. Spell Critical

Destiny (24 AP)
Shirardi Champion

1. Wild Shots I, Healing Spring III
2. Prism, Fey Spring III, Fey Form III
3. Rainbow
4. Double Rainbow, Elemental Absorption I
5. Stand and Deliver, Nerve Venom III
6. Audience with the Queen

Twists of Fate (47 fate points) - Error

1. Empyrean Magic (Tier 3 Crusader)
2. Energy Burst: Electricity (Tier 4 Draconic)
3. Spell Augmentation (Tier 4 Draconic)
4. Legendary Shield Mastery (Tier 2 Sentinel)

I got in a hurry and chose Adamantine on my BF Sorc at level 1. I went with it, but it cuts to much into the power curve at this level of the game for a sorc by having to take to much EK, and other, to get 0 ASF. I swapped it out for Mithral, put 3 pts in BF ASF and my survivablity has been fine. 19 and only one death way back in Undermine mibe field (with Adamantine on). I leveraged an avg of 55 more dmg on regular cast and up 200 more on crits being able to place more points in my Savant. I'll be switching back to Adamantine when I hit 20 and can slot a -15% ASF Aug.

I ran a wizard over a year ago who for a while had 10% I couldn't cut down. It wasn't horrible, but it was a huge difference when I cut it down to 5%. 5% is a mark you'll rarely fail.

[UurlockYgmeov]

I got in a hurry and chose Adamantine on my BF Sorc at level 1. I went with it, but it cuts to much into the power curve at this level of the game for a sorc by having to take to much EK, and other, to get 0 ASF. I swapped it out for Mithral, put 3 pts in BF ASF and my survivablity has been fine. 19 and only one death way back in Undermine mibe field (with Adamantine on). I leveraged an avg of 55 more dmg on regular cast and up 200 more on crits being able to place more points in my Savant. I'll be switching back to Adamantine when I hit 20 and can slot a -15% ASF Aug.

I ran a wizard over a year ago who for a while had 10% I couldn't cut down. It wasn't horrible, but it was a huge difference when I cut it down to 5%. 5% is a mark you'll rarely fail.

yes, ASF blows green gopher gut chunks.

However, at low level (<10) just grab a greataxe and master's touch and you are GTG and DTK (down to kill).

As Uurlock approaches the end of this first Drow life - many thoughts and changes are going on, including lv20-27 gear. Since the next two lives are starting at lv15 - then all is good for adamantine body. However, with U27 coming out soon - might change over to Cold / Acid specc'd for 15 --- just for the elec and fire immune quests.

[UurlockYgmeov]

(Combat): You hit Grogan the Promoter for 2,765 points of fire damage.

In Heroic.... Gotta love CotQ!

[UurlockYgmeov]

so on last of three lives using this build. Been busy in real life so taking my time. Also now gathering gear for Halfling Warlock Great Old One lives coming up. Just got the heroic Sages Ring from WGU...

Tried every ED, and while Shiradi seems to do so much more damage, it also brought out the Blue Kool Aid addiction Uurlock has been fighting for nearly 10 years.... So Magister.

Some slight changes to Spells. Swapped out Power Word: Kill for Wail. PWK is powerful, but way to slow.



Also was running these twists - but went back to Empyrean Magic: Passive Bonus: Whenever you cast a fire, light, or healing spell you gain a stack of Empyrean Fervor. Each stack of Empyrean Fervor gives you +2 Sacred bonus to Universal Spell power, +1% Sacred Bonus to Critical Chance with all spells. Duration: 10 seconds. Stacks 10 times. (Divine Crusader)

and put in Endless Faith --- wow what a big help, recharge to 30 and 10% more spell points? youbetcha!



Swapped over to Fire being primary because nice AOE vs Electrical, and since wearing Epic Red Dragonscale and matching helm, get a big boost to fire casting level (comes out to being level 35 or 36).




Now I do not pretend to be an uber player, rather I have always maintained mediocrity. Do not usually play UBER builds with the best equipment, just in it to have fun.

[cmecu]

Did you get to play this build all the way to 20? I am going to be TR soon. I will have 2 sorcerer past lives, this one you have posted I want to try with the pally splash. What race did you end up deciding was the best? Bladeforge? WF? Drow?
I played 18 sorcerer 2 rogue Warforge so i could self heal and do some traps.
I want to try this sorcerer pally now. What kind of gear you use in the lower levels? Anything that one can equip and just go with it?

[RD2play]

Hey there Uurlock,

I am planning a similar build BF Sorc, but I had a few questions you may be able to help out with.

1. Armor, I feel it might be a better choice to go for mithral plating over adamant since the removal of mrr. This would allow for higher dodge and needs less ASF mitigation. Also with light I can reach above 50mrr and don't think I can get to 100. Or am I missing something here? what are your views?

2. With the "adjustment" to Divine Grace, is it still worth it giving up a 8th and 9th spell slot for the 2nd paladin level, +8 saves and LoH, what are your experiences with LoH in particular, will it matter or will it be just a minor heal? and will those extra 8th and 9th spells matter?

I am asking since I will be out a capstone anyway, due to Iconic and not willing to pay for a lesser+1 just for a single life. So what do you think is 2pal/18sorc still the way to go or is 1/19 the better option? for in the current game? Or do we have to leave the box further and go 1/1/18 ? your thoughts please

[UurlockYgmeov]

Did you get to play this build all the way to 20? I am going to be TR soon. I will have 2 sorcerer past lives, this one you have posted I want to try with the pally splash. What race did you end up deciding was the best? Bladeforge? WF? Drow?
I played 18 sorcerer 2 rogue Warforge so i could self heal and do some traps.
I want to try this sorcerer pally now. What kind of gear you use in the lower levels? Anything that one can equip and just go with it?

Played this all the way to cap several times, and several ER's.

Bladeforged IMHO was the best choice because of the racial heal, and other self heals (repair). However, if you do not want to go into the epics any race really would do, and Drow would give you a little extra Charisma - a small boost, just beware that you are giving up constitution in the process.

18/2 rogue would work - just not as much synergy because INT needed for skills (traps) and CHR needed for spells. Gear can more than make up for it (and past lives).

Yes, for the most part - random loot can work just fine in the lower heroics, but I'd strongly suggest cannith challenge casting gear - Bracers of Wind, Cloak of Flames, Rock Boots, Blasting Chime, and if not a robot - Frozen Tunic. If WF/BF Ring of Master Artifice is so worth it.

What you see for the level 15 gear is also available at level 4,8,12 at least for the cannith challenge gear. Now with insightful being (or has it been removed) spell power on armor - can really beef up your primary spell power.

I'd also look into the Skyvault Shield (just use Master's Touch on it), it is a tower shield:
Gianthold Tor or Return to Gianthold Tor

• ML12: Shield Bonus +11, DR 9, ACP -3, SF 0, [1d8], 20x2, +4 Enhancement Bonus, Colorless Augment Slot
• ML13: Shield Bonus +12, DR 10, ACP -3, SF 0, [1d8], 20x2, +5 Enhancement Bonus, Red Augment Slot
• ML14: Shield Bonus +12, DR 10, ACP -3, SF 0, 1.50[1d8], 20x2, +5 Enhancement Bonus, Red Augment Slot, Colorless Augment Slot
• ML23: Shield Bonus +17, DR 13, ACP -3, SF 0, 2[2d6], 20x2, +6 Enhancement Bonus, Purple Augment Slot, Colorless Augment Slot
• ML24: Shield Bonus +18, DR 14, ACP -3, SF 0, 2[2d6], 20x2, +7 Enhancement Bonus, Purple Augment Slot, Blue Augment Slot
• ML25: Shield Bonus +18, DR 14, ACP -3, SF 0, 2.5[2d6], 20x2, +7 Enhancement Bonus, Purple Augment Slot, Red Augment Slot, Blue Augment Slot

Sad face here because the frozen tunic doesn't come in anything but cloth, no docent, no light or medium armor.

Hey there Uurlock,

I am planning a similar build BF Sorc, but I had a few questions you may be able to help out with.

1. Armor, I feel it might be a better choice to go for mithral plating over adamant since the removal of mrr. This would allow for higher dodge and needs less ASF mitigation. Also with light I can reach above 50mrr and don't think I can get to 100. Or am I missing something here? what are your views?

2. With the "adjustment" to Divine Grace, is it still worth it giving up a 8th and 9th spell slot for the 2nd paladin level, +8 saves and LoH, what are your experiences with LoH in particular, will it matter or will it be just a minor heal? and will those extra 8th and 9th spells matter?

I am asking since I will be out a capstone anyway, due to Iconic and not willing to pay for a lesser+1 just for a single life. So what do you think is 2pal/18sorc still the way to go or is 1/19 the better option? for in the current game? Or do we have to leave the box further and go 1/1/18 ? your thoughts please

Comes down to personal play style for mithral vs adamantine body, what I'd do now is still use adamantine body and Fanion in heroics, and then the epic Skyvault shield for the last push to cap. (see above for more information on the Skyvault shield). In the end you can start with one and always have a pleasant cuppa tea with Fred and leave a changed forged... IMHO it t does come down to PRR more than MRR, but one word on the different between Mithral vs Adamantine Body when it comes to MRR, Mithral is light armor and so capped at 100 MRR, while Adamantine is considered heavy and has not MRR cap. Mithral also grants 1/2 the PRR that Adamantine does, and with many sources of maxing out to full BAB, easy enough to push up PRR.

Yes, Divine grace isn't as, well OP in this build as it was before and I did notice the change in survivability in EE content, but you still get +8 to all saves! This is a massive boost to survivability. Plus the 2nd level of paladin grants access to Lay On Hands - which does 100% healing to both squishies and forged alike. Is this enough to forgo an additional 8th and 9th level spell? Personal call.

Effectiveness of LoH - well, depends on two factors: your positive spell power / lore and your HAmp/RAmp (healing/repair Amplification). It is not a minor heal (150+ IIRC) with decent spell power and HAmp, both of which are easy enough to get in. Blue Dragonscale XXX has potency 80 and spell lore - so that covers that, and now HAmp/RAmp is everywhere on random generated loot.

For the final question - all three are viable builds. Comes down to what you want to do, what will be fun for you to play. If you are into eking out every last bit of DPS, then there is a build that splashing in like 4 levels of FvS, 14 Sorc, and 2 Paladin. You should be able to find it in these forums if you want to look at it. This is what makes DDO so great, the endless choices and difficult decisions and discussions about those choices. So play to have fun, and if you end up with a less than ideal for you build, then change it next life, because there is always a next life.

Have fun storming the castle!

Icon	Feat	Type	Description	Prerequisites
	Adamantine Body	Passive	This plating is counted as a heavy armor. It grants a +8 armor bonus to Armor Class and a damage reduction bonus of 2/adamantine. The character also incurs a 35% chance for arcane spell failure, a -5 armor check penalty, and a +1 maximum dexterity bonus.	Warforged, Bladeforged
	Mithral Body	Passive	This plating is counted as a light armor and grants a +5 bonus to Armor Class. It also incurs a 15% arcane spell failure, a -1 armor check penalty, and has a +5 maximum dexterity bonus.	Warforged, Bladeforged

Yes, MRR isn't as good as it was before the update to the update to the update of armor up --- but PRR is what matters most:

Docents	PRR
Mithral Body	BAB * 1
Adamantine Body	BAB * 2

Shield type	PRR
Bucklers/Orbs	0
Small shields	5
Large shields	10
Tower shields	15

AND MRR is capped....
MRR Cap

Different armor types can apply a cap for Magical Resistance Rating (U23):

• Robes, Outfit, or empty armor slot: 50
• Light Armor: 100
• Medium Armor: No cap
• Heavy Armor: No cap