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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobgoblin View Post
    3 questions

    why heighten?

    why not epic spell focus from epic feats?

    why force of personality
    Heighten I'm thinking of squeezing into my build to improve my lower level spells to the point of usability in late game content.

    Force of personality, eh, it's a personal choice. I like it to improve will saves. Getting dominated or Held is annoying.

    For spell focus, that I have no idea. Feats can be a premium though. So depending on what all you want, might not have room for epic spell focus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobgoblin View Post
    3 questions

    why heighten?

    why not epic spell focus from epic feats?

    why force of personality
    These are all excellent questions that Red_Knight already answsred. Heighten I have in primarily for MOD cc at the moment since I am relying entirely on passive bonuses, charisma and itemization for necromancy and transmutation DC. If someone is primarily using level 5 and 6 spells a DC feat is superior to heighten. Blindness is a level 2 spell so it gains +4 DC with heighten and I need that 4 to get to no-fail saves against the archers in EN MOD. Some groups just kill on normal and others want the cc.

    Once eShavarath comes out I will probably get rid of heighten since blindness and flesh to stone likely won't be used in that content.

    Force of personality is really a flavor choice as it moves my will save from always fail to rarely fail. An extra epic spell focus or past life bard feat are definitely good choices if you don't find much value in the higher will save. I've died enough to failed will saves that I value it, but when eShavarath comes out it will be the first thing to go if I need to fit in spell penetration or more DC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    These are all excellent questions that Red_Knight already answsred. Heighten I have in primarily for MOD cc at the moment since I am relying entirely on passive bonuses, charisma and itemization for necromancy and transmutation DC. If someone is primarily using level 5 and 6 spells a DC feat is superior to heighten. Blindness is a level 2 spell so it gains +4 DC with heighten and I need that 4 to get to no-fail saves against the archers in EN MOD. Some groups just kill on normal and others want the cc.

    Once eShavarath comes out I will probably get rid of heighten since blindness and flesh to stone likely won't be used in that content.

    Force of personality is really a flavor choice as it moves my will save from always fail to rarely fail. An extra epic spell focus or past life bard feat are definitely good choices if you don't find much value in the higher will save. I've died enough to failed will saves that I value it, but when eShavarath comes out it will be the first thing to go if I need to fit in spell penetration or more DC.
    awesome. running a souleater sun elf right now

    not sure what the hell i was doing.

    used a 20 heart to get compl back so definatly gonna try this when i hit 28 (27 now)

    thanks

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    I've really enjoyed this build tweaking things here and there but I know there is so much I'm missing out on. For one I'mwondering how people are gearing this out: Would love ideas suggestions on the below - I'm not a raid runner except for CiTW.

    Head: epic minos
    Neck: sages locket
    Eyes: skirmishers lenses (not real sure what to put here)
    Trinket: Holy symbol of Lloth
    Chest: Epic Scales of Surety toggle with TF medium caster
    Back: Mabar cloak
    Wrist: Epic Inferno
    Waist: Epic Chords of Reprisal
    Ring: Epic Eye of the Beholder
    Ring: Lantern Ring
    Boots: Orcish Privateers Boots
    Hands: Iron Mitts
    Weapon: TF Quarterstaff +150 positive, +6evo, +1 exec DC

    Thinking I am needing ench DC not real sure what else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jambajuicey View Post
    Weapon: TF Quarterstaff +150 positive, +6evo, +1 exec DC

    Thinking I am needing ench DC not real sure what else?
    Why +150 positive? Nothing warlocks do except maybe steal life force would use positive energy spell power. And even that I thought was up for debate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Knight View Post
    Why +150 positive? Nothing warlocks do except maybe steal life force would use positive energy spell power. And even that I thought was up for debate?
    cacoon and CMW - have been pretty much in EA - didnt see anything better for it? open for ideas!

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    Be better off with Impulse on it, honestly, so that you can shut off Utterdark and still be effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fmalfeas View Post
    Be better off with Impulse on it, honestly, so that you can shut off Utterdark and still be effective.
    Or use Penetrating and get more damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Knight View Post
    Or use Penetrating and get more damage.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Knight View Post
    Or use Penetrating and get more damage.
    I will give it a try - thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jambajuicey View Post
    I've really enjoyed this build tweaking things here and there but I know there is so much I'm missing out on. For one I'mwondering how people are gearing this out: Would love ideas suggestions on the below - I'm not a raid runner except for CiTW.

    Head: epic minos
    Neck: sages locket
    Eyes: skirmishers lenses (not real sure what to put here)
    Trinket: Holy symbol of Lloth
    Chest: Epic Scales of Surety toggle with TF medium caster
    Back: Mabar cloak
    Wrist: Epic Inferno
    Waist: Epic Chords of Reprisal
    Ring: Epic Eye of the Beholder
    Ring: Lantern Ring
    Boots: Orcish Privateers Boots
    Hands: Iron Mitts
    Weapon: TF Quarterstaff +150 positive, +6evo, +1 exec DC

    Thinking I am needing ench DC not real sure what else?
    You could use sage goggles for fire lore, +3cha field optics or craft GS item for goggles either for more spell points and int and cha skills or for more hp.

    Instead of staff you could make 1 hander so u can use a random loot gen sonic lore item with red slot in the other hand. Also dont see much reason to use sage locket if your gonna be crafting an evo item when epic inferno also has spellcraft. Neck could use Eidolons or even Iron Beads when changing Energy Burst to Electric for Shav.

    You also dont really need Epic Minos as you have vitality, fortification and sheltering covered on other items except +2 fort save. If your swapping between Epic Scales of Surety(50% exceptional) and TF(130%) then put heavy fort aug on the surety. Another option is either Plundered Pirate Hat or blue dragon helm with +3cha unless im missing your 3 cha item on gear. Also you could use Epic Seraphim for 144 devotion and aug slots until you can get epic Deific Diadem.

    Another +3 cha option is planar trinket and use globe of imperial blood aug for exceptional +1 to all abilities instead of Lloth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fmalfeas View Post
    Be better off with Impulse on it, honestly, so that you can shut off Utterdark and still be effective.
    The extra sources of light damage available to me are:

    30: past life sun elf
    30: exalted angel
    30: enlighted scholar tree (on top of universal spell power)

    It's a significant enough boost that utterdark is definitely worth it to me. On top of that lantern ring is an easy item to slot with spellpower/crits good enough for end game content. It also procs the extra light damage which benefits from maxing out light damage as well. I wouldn't put radiance on TF when lantern ring is so good.

    As for TF weapons i would wait until eShavarath comes out before making one. You can get by without a tier 3 caster weapon for now using lantern ring and understanding the DC/Spell pen requirements in EE eShavarath could be helpful before deciding on a final weapon. It should be on Lamannia soon and is scheduled to be released on live in less than a month.

    You might prefer to use two TF weapons( tier 2 and tier 3) instead of a single tier 3 two-handed weapon with the extra goodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuneyMunster View Post
    You could use sage goggles for fire lore, +3cha field optics or craft GS item for goggles either for more spell points and int and cha skills or for more hp.

    Instead of staff you could make 1 hander so u can use a random loot gen sonic lore item with red slot in the other hand. Also dont see much reason to use sage locket if your gonna be crafting an evo item when epic inferno also has spellcraft. Neck could use Eidolons or even Iron Beads when changing Energy Burst to Electric for Shav.

    You also dont really need Epic Minos as you have vitality, fortification and sheltering covered on other items except +2 fort save. If your swapping between Epic Scales of Surety(50% exceptional) and TF(130%) then put heavy fort aug on the surety. Another option is either Plundered Pirate Hat or blue dragon helm with +3cha unless im missing your 3 cha item on gear. Also you could use Epic Seraphim for 144 devotion and aug slots until you can get epic Deific Diadem.

    Another +3 cha option is planar trinket and use globe of imperial blood aug for exceptional +1 to all abilities instead of Lloth.
    Thanks much! lore items I believe are a weak spot - should I basically be looking for radiance and sonic lore? Thanks for the catches!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jambajuicey View Post
    Thanks much! lore items I believe are a weak spot - should I basically be looking for radiance and sonic lore? Thanks for the catches!
    I am really a big fan of lantern ring. Not just for the light spellpower and crits, but the extra proc damage is also a nice boost. You can get those from Haunted Halls or the auction house. The ring can be upgraded with 150 stones.

    If you use 2 weapons you can have one with sonic lore and another with enchantment mastery (or use the cloak from stormhorns for enchantment mastery +5 and use an evocation mastery stick).
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    What does your Exalted Angel tree look like? Just CHA bumps and Endless Faith?
    Things worthy of Standing Stone going EXTREME PREJUDICE™ on.:
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    • Fixing why I don't connect to the chat server for 5 minutes when I log into a game world.
    • Fixing the wonky Lightning Sphere and Tactical Det firing by converting them to use alchemist spell arcing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantumFX View Post
    What does your Exalted Angel tree look like? Just CHA bumps and Endless Faith?
    I normally don't max out of 6 of a stat in my tree, but in this case I did since Avenging Light and Sun Bolt aren't really much (if at all) better than eldritch blast and casting anything other than bursts or utility spells between eldritch blast seems like a DPS loss to me.

    I am taking

    TIER 1
    - Radiant Power x3
    - Endless Faith x3
    - Healing Power x3
    - Charisma

    TIER 2
    - Charisma

    TIER 3
    - Charisma

    TIER 4
    - Charisma

    TIer 5
    - Leap of Faith
    - Charisma

    Tier 6
    - Divine Wrath
    - Charisma

    I considered Blood and Radiance and Reborn in Light, but I find myself having to force positive spells to keep it charged up so I opted not to take it. The soundburst is also really hard to pass up as it gives a cc option for high-will save enemies, but I find it most useful for soloing and I would be more inclined to twist in daunting roar instead of fey form if I wanted a another cc: option.

    When eShavarath comes out I will strongly consider dropping 2 char and leap of faith for judgment/lay to rest/judge the many.

    At the moment twists are:

    - Energy Burst
    - Fey Form (for more passive spellpower)
    - Enchantment Specialist
    - Rejuvenation Cocoon

    If I only had 3 spots I would drop Fey Form
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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    I normally don't max out of 6 of a stat in my tree, but in this case I did since Avenging Light and Sun Bolt aren't really much (if at all) better than eldritch blast and casting anything other than bursts or utility spells between eldritch blast seems like a DPS loss to me.

    I am taking

    TIER 1
    - Radiant Power x3
    - Endless Faith x3
    - Healing Power x3
    - Charisma

    TIER 2
    - Charisma

    TIER 3
    - Charisma

    TIER 4
    - Charisma

    TIer 5
    - Leap of Faith
    - Charisma

    Tier 6
    - Divine Wrath
    - Charisma

    I considered Blood and Radiance and Reborn in Light, but I find myself having to force positive spells to keep it charged up so I opted not to take it.

    When eShavarath comes out I will strongly consider dropping 2 char and leap of faith for judgment/lay to rest/judge the many.

    At the moment twists are:

    - Energy Burst
    - Fey Form (for more passive spellpower)
    - Enchantment Specialist
    - Rejuvenation Cocoon

    If I only had 3 spots I would drop Fey Form
    May I ask you just one thing...why you don't consider soundburst? I can get my DC over 70 and full buffed If I remember right, it's 78. Work well even on toee, cheap (6sp) & bypass fom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanhooger View Post
    May I ask you just one thing...why you don't consider soundburst? I can get my DC over 70 and full buffed If I remember right, it's 78. Work well even on toee, cheap (6sp) & bypass fom.
    Yeah I really should give that another look. I have a +7 char tome I should just use to make room for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    Yeah I really should give that another look. I have a +7 char tome I should just use to make room for it.
    I have same point spent in EA except for:

    -Endless Faith x3
    - Healing Power x3

    I got Endless faith x1
    Healing Power x2
    Sounburst x3
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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    I normally don't max out of 6 of a stat in my tree, but in this case I did since Avenging Light and Sun Bolt aren't really much (if at all) better than eldritch blast and casting anything other than bursts or utility spells between eldritch blast seems like a DPS loss to me.
    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    I considered Blood and Radiance and Reborn in Light, but I find myself having to force positive spells to keep it charged up so I opted not to take it.
    Blood and Radiance will just make you sad. I was really hoping that the Eldrich Blast light procs would count as a light spell, but no, that would be useful without being OP.

    BTW: Thanks for the response!
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    • Fixing why I don't connect to the chat server for 5 minutes when I log into a game world.
    • Fixing the wonky Lightning Sphere and Tactical Det firing by converting them to use alchemist spell arcing.
    • Redoing the drop rates of tomes in generic and raid loot tables.

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