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  1. #1
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    Default Build Request: Elf Artificer

    Hey guys, thanks for stopping by.

    I'm looking for a mixed Artificer + Elven Arcane Archer for a new, 32 point build character. I'd would like him to use mainly a crossbow for damage, of course, as well as be able to do a solid job at trapping. I've looked around but have failed to find this particular build, but this seems easy enough... I'm curious about point allocation, feats as well as skill point allocation mainly. Thanks again.

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    First off: the imbues in AA aren't supposed to work with bolts, which is why you don't usually see AA repeater builds. There are workarounds, but they're not WAI, so as a general rule I don't recommend builds which are based on bug exploits.

    Second: pre-U25, one of the more interesting repeater builds is Tilomere's pure rgr, which is designed to exploit AA's Doubleshot with DWS's ranged atks and Killer. I think the DPS improvements to Mechanic have overshadowed it, but it's still a nifty idea.

    Third: the addition of Harper had me dusting off an old build concept of mine, namely pure arty with racial AA which uses longbows with Manyshot, repeaters the rest of the time. The Doubleshot penalties from Manyshot hurt your repeater DPS, though, so you would only use MS when you really needed the extra burst DPS. I never could get it to perform as well as I wanted, though - APs are too constrained - so it never got past the theorycrafting stage. Then along came the U25 revamp to Mechanics and it seemed rather pointless; frankly, arties are badly in need of a revamp to keep up with all the power creep. Nevertheless, I present it as an instructive exercise.

    Code:
    Shadow Artificer
    Artificer 20
    True Neutral Elf
    
    
    Stats
                   28pt     32pt     Tome     Level Up
                   ----     ----     ----     --------
    Strength         8        8                4: INT
    Dexterity       16       16       +4       8: INT
    Constitution    12       14               12: INT
    Intelligence    18       18               16: INT
    Wisdom           8        8               20: INT
    Charisma         8        8               24: DEX
                                              28: INT
    
    Skills
              1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
             ------------------------------------------------------------
    Concent   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Spellcr   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Disable   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Open Lo   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Search    4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Spot      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    UMD       4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Move Si      ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  1  1  1  1     1     1     1     1     11
    Balance   1                                1     1     1½ ½  1½ ½  1   8
    Tumble    1                                                            1
    Haggle                                                             1   1
             ------------------------------------------------------------
             32  8  8  8  8  8  8  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9 10 10 10 10 10
    
    
    Feats
    
     1        : Point Blank Shot
     3        : Precision
     4 Arti   : Rapid Shot
     6        : Least Dragonmark: Shadow
     8 Arti   : Precise Shot
     9        : Manyshot
    12        : Maximize Spell
    12 Arti   : Improved Critical: Ranged
    15        : Spell Focus: Evocation
    16 Arti   : Improved Precise Shot
    18        : Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
    20 Arti   : Quicken Spell
    21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic   : Combat Archery
    26 Destiny: Holy Strike
    27 Epic   : Ruin
    28 Destiny: Doubleshot
    
    
    Enhancements (80 AP)
    
    Elf (14 AP)
    
    
    • Elven Accuracy
      1. Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus III, Keen Senses I
      2. Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow, Nothing Is Hidden I, Arcanum I
      3. Arcane Archer
    Elf-Arcane Archer (41 AP)
    • Arcane Archer, Morphic Arrows, Metalline Arrows, Aligned Arrows, Shadow Arrows, Master of Imbuement
      1. Conjure Arrows, True Strike III
      2. Force Arrows III, Inferno Shot III
      3. Terror Arrows III, Soul Magic
      4. Banishing Arrows, Paralyzing Arrows III, Smiting Arrows
      5. Moonbow, Arrow of Slaying, Runebow
    Battle Engineer (13 AP)
    • Battle Engineer, Infused Weapons, Infused Armor
      1. Crossbow Training, Thermal Venting III
      2. Thaumaturgical Conduits III
      3. Arcane Capacitors
    Harper Agent (12 AP)
    • Agent of Good I
      1. Harper Enchantment, Strategic Combat
      2. Versatile Adept II, Know the Angles III
      3. Strategic Combat
    Semi-retired Build Engineer. Everything was better back in our day. Get off my lawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    First off: the imbues in AA aren't supposed to work with bolts, which is why you don't usually see AA repeater builds. There are workarounds, but they're not WAI, so as a general rule I don't recommend builds which are based on bug exploits.

    Second: pre-U25, one of the more interesting repeater builds is Tilomere's pure rgr, which is designed to exploit AA's Doubleshot with DWS's ranged atks and Killer. I think the DPS improvements to Mechanic have overshadowed it, but it's still a nifty idea.

    Third: the addition of Harper had me dusting off an old build concept of mine, namely pure arty with racial AA which uses longbows with Manyshot, repeaters the rest of the time. The Doubleshot penalties from Manyshot hurt your repeater DPS, though, so you would only use MS when you really needed the extra burst DPS. I never could get it to perform as well as I wanted, though - APs are too constrained - so it never got past the theorycrafting stage. Then along came the U25 revamp to Mechanics and it seemed rather pointless; frankly, arties are badly in need of a revamp to keep up with all the power creep. Nevertheless, I present it as an instructive exercise.

    Code:
    Shadow Artificer
    Artificer 20
    True Neutral Elf
    
    
    Stats
                   28pt     32pt     Tome     Level Up
                   ----     ----     ----     --------
    Strength         8        8                4: INT
    Dexterity       16       16       +4       8: INT
    Constitution    12       14               12: INT
    Intelligence    18       18               16: INT
    Wisdom           8        8               20: INT
    Charisma         8        8               24: DEX
                                              28: INT
    
    Skills
              1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
             ------------------------------------------------------------
    Concent   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Spellcr   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Disable   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Open Lo   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Search    4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Spot      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    UMD       4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Move Si      ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  1  1  1  1     1     1     1     1     11
    Balance   1                                1     1     1½ ½  1½ ½  1   8
    Tumble    1                                                            1
    Haggle                                                             1   1
             ------------------------------------------------------------
             32  8  8  8  8  8  8  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9 10 10 10 10 10
    
    
    Feats
    
     1        : Point Blank Shot
     3        : Precision
     4 Arti   : Rapid Shot
     6        : Least Dragonmark: Shadow
     8 Arti   : Precise Shot
     9        : Manyshot
    12        : Maximize Spell
    12 Arti   : Improved Critical: Ranged
    15        : Spell Focus: Evocation
    16 Arti   : Improved Precise Shot
    18        : Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
    20 Arti   : Quicken Spell
    21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic   : Combat Archery
    26 Destiny: Holy Strike
    27 Epic   : Ruin
    28 Destiny: Doubleshot
    
    
    Enhancements (80 AP)
    
    Elf (14 AP)
    
    
    • Elven Accuracy
      1. Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus III, Keen Senses I
      2. Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow, Nothing Is Hidden I, Arcanum I
      3. Arcane Archer
    Elf-Arcane Archer (41 AP)
    • Arcane Archer, Morphic Arrows, Metalline Arrows, Aligned Arrows, Shadow Arrows, Master of Imbuement
      1. Conjure Arrows, True Strike III
      2. Force Arrows III, Inferno Shot III
      3. Terror Arrows III, Soul Magic
      4. Banishing Arrows, Paralyzing Arrows III, Smiting Arrows
      5. Moonbow, Arrow of Slaying, Runebow
    Battle Engineer (13 AP)
    • Battle Engineer, Infused Weapons, Infused Armor
      1. Crossbow Training, Thermal Venting III
      2. Thaumaturgical Conduits III
      3. Arcane Capacitors
    Harper Agent (12 AP)
    • Agent of Good I
      1. Harper Enchantment, Strategic Combat
      2. Versatile Adept II, Know the Angles III
      3. Strategic Combat
    1: Uh, are you absolutely sure that AA working with Artificer is a bug? https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...l-Known-Issues , it has nothing to do with Bolts working improperly with AA. While I don't see this on the known issue list, I would like to avoid an exploit when making a build... it just looked like a fun build.
    2: Thanks for this, this will help me base a build off of.
    Last edited by TMTrainer; 05-24-2015 at 11:51 PM.

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