Not WAI?

[FranOhmsford]

Yesterday I put a group together for the Lordsmarch II Chain and when we got to Undermine one player asked me if I knew the trick with Hirelings to which I said "What Trick?"
To which he replied that rather than using the explosives you could get a hireling to run over and set them off - Now I replied that that would just mean a dead hireling thinking he was talking about the mines but oh no...
Turns out he was talking about opening the walls!!!

Now I stated that I would use the explosives but let him call a hire thinking he'd use her {Lara'fey} for extra DPS and a little healing but he proceeded to have her open every single rock wall in the quest {I didn't even know these were targetable? Never even thought to check till we were past the last one either}.

I didn't boot him after the quest was over because I was afraid of losing everyone else for Siegebreaker {Luckily he left of his own accord though}.


Now I know that Rogue Hires who spot secret doors and traps can and will do the traps without any need to have them Search first {a small issue that probably doesn't require a special fix but is likely to get fixed at some point I'm sure} BUT any hire being able to open these walls blatantly breaks immersion in this quest!
If the Rogue Hires get fixed to require Search at the same time then so be it!

[Qhualor]

No its not WAI. The intention is to blow the walls up. I'm sure now that it's on the forums out in the open for the devs to read it will be put on the same priority list as Maze of Madness. Prepare for the "who cares", "dev time is better spent on real bugs" and "don't run with those players if you don't like it" comments.

[JOTMON]

Yesterday I put a group together for the Lordsmarch II Chain and when we got to Undermine one player asked me if I knew the trick with Hirelings to which I said "What Trick?"
To which he replied that rather than using the explosives you could get a hireling to run over and set them off - Now I replied that that would just mean a dead hireling thinking he was talking about the mines but oh no...
Turns out he was talking about opening the walls!!!

Now I stated that I would use the explosives but let him call a hire thinking he'd use her {Lara'fey} for extra DPS and a little healing but he proceeded to have her open every single rock wall in the quest {I didn't even know these were targetable? Never even thought to check till we were past the last one either}.

I didn't boot him after the quest was over because I was afraid of losing everyone else for Siegebreaker {Luckily he left of his own accord though}.


Now I know that Rogue Hires who spot secret doors and traps can and will do the traps without any need to have them Search first {a small issue that probably doesn't require a special fix but is likely to get fixed at some point I'm sure} BUT any hire being able to open these walls blatantly breaks immersion in this quest!
If the Rogue Hires get fixed to require Search at the same time then so be it!

so why not bug report it instead of advertising a potential exploit in detail.

[FranOhmsford]

so why not bug report it instead of advertising a potential exploit in detail.

Because I'm not sure:

1) That it even counts as an Exploit!

2) How to do it!
The Bug Report Crew at Turbine don't seem to be able to do anything unless you give explicit directions anyway!

[Lonnbeimnech]

Agreed, except the part about Lara. It totally fits that she would be able to smash through those walls as if they were nothing.

[jalont]

You don't even need a hire. Target breakable wall, click use on focus orb.

[FranOhmsford]

Agreed, except the part about Lara. It totally fits that she would be able to smash through those walls as if they were nothing.

Since Cometfall does not smash through walls in DDO - No she shouldn't!

[FranOhmsford]

You don't even need a hire. Target breakable wall, click use on focus orb.

If this is true then it's most definitely Not WAI!


Again though: I won't use the word "Exploit" as this does nothing more than save a few seconds of time! {and annoy players like me who don't want quests ruined by the impatient!}.