+20 hearts

[Chi_Ryu]

We currently have no interest in putting restrictions on the Warlock in regard to reincarnation, but we would consider the community's preference if people felt strongly that there should be restrictions on the class for a period of time after it debuts.

I think there should be no restrictions on the class. Even though I will play it from 1-20 to re-gain my completionist, if others choose to be creative that is their decision.

[Chai]

did you buy a word of the day calendar? Uska accused turbine of trying to cheat the players. Argue it anyway you like.

Saying Turbine put the hearts out close to an impending new class release is not an accusation of cheating the players. There is no bad intent regarding putting out a new class. What wont be admitted here of course is the assumption being made in addition to what was posted. Add that to the fact that now that the clarification requested by the same poster is provided, it invalidates any accusation on that front which could be made.

[Chai]

It wont bother me if someone is a level 28 warlock on day one. Ill be in their groups, observing class performance.

[Susquehana]

Saying Turbine put the hearts out close to an impending new class release is not an accusation of cheating the players. There is no bad intent regarding putting out a new class. What wont be admitted here of course is the assumption being made in addition to what was posted. Add that to the fact that now that the clarification requested by the same poster is provided, it invalidates any accusation on that front which could be made.

it is an accusation when say they did so players would buy them for the warlock class. Uska did that. Spin it any way you want, you always do.

[Chai]

it is an accusation when say they did so players would buy them for the warlock class. Uska did that. Spin it any way you want, you always do.

Is that somehow cheating the players?

did you buy a word of the day calendar? Uska accused turbine of trying to cheat the players. Argue it anyway you like.

where is that claim made?

Whats not being admitted here is the assumption being made about the post, which was not posted.

[Susquehana]

Is that somehow cheating the players?



where is that claim made?

the accusation of bait and switch means trying to cheat the players. Can it really be this hard?

[Drwaz99]

We currently have no interest in putting restrictions on the Warlock in regard to reincarnation, but we would consider the community's preference if people felt strongly that there should be restrictions on the class for a period of time after it debuts.

No restrictions, please.

[Chai]

the accusation of bait and switch means trying to cheat the players. Can it really be this hard?

Requesting clarification to eliminate the possibility that Turbine would be accused of bait and switch in the future =/= accusation of bait and switch.

[Grosbeak07]

There should be NO restrictions.

Let us play the danged class as we wish.

Thank you.

I disagree, there should be a short restriction, say a couple of weeks to prevent capped Warlocks on day 1.

That being said, I'm not opposed to Vet Status, though I think Iconics should be delayed from using as well for a short amount of time.

My reasoning is that if a theoretical new player starts playing DDO just to play a Warlock, but sees most of the vets already capped out on Day 1, it takes something away. Restrict things for two weeks and then let it go is what I would do.

[Susquehana]

and that claim was made by the same poster?

Yes. I guess a quiz and review of the thread is needed. First uska asks about a possible bait and switch later uska straight says turbine released them so people would buy them for warlocks. You can connect these dots right?

[Chai]

Yes. I guess a quiz and review of the thread is needed. First uska asks about a possible bait and switch later uska straight says turbine released them so people would buy them for warlocks. You can connect these dots right?

Requesting clarification to eliminate the possibility that Turbine would be accused of bait and switch in the future =/= accusation of bait and switch.

Consumer 101. If unsure how its going to work, ask how it will work. Calling out that if players are allowed to assume how it will work rather than receiving clarification may lead to players accusing bait and switch later on (as they have in the past in some specific situations) is not an accusation in the present of the same.

[Susquehana]

Requesting clarification to eliminate the possibility that Turbine would be accused of bait and switch in the future =/= accusation of bait and switch.

Consumer 101. If unsure how its going to work, ask how it will work. Calling out that if players are allowed to assume how it will work rather than receiving clarification may lead to players accusing bait and switch later on (as they have in the past in some specific situations) is not an accusation in the present of the same.

Asking is not accusing we agree. Later in the thread uska straight said they did it on purpose that is an accusation. Education 101. Read the post I posted in yellow one page back. Seriously

[Dandonk]

We currently have no interest in putting restrictions on the Warlock in regard to reincarnation, but we would consider the community's preference if people felt strongly that there should be restrictions on the class for a period of time after it debuts.

There's a lot of pay-to-skip anyway, if people feel like forking over cash to avoid a fairly quick run to TR... let them. I'll get there in my own time.

[Chai]

Asking is not accusing we agree. Later in the thread uska straight said they did it on purpose that is an accusation. Education 101. Read the post I posted in yellow one page back. Seriously

I read that, and its not an accusation. I still premise an assumption is being made on top of what was posted which is leading you to this conclusion.

Marketing is always done on purpose.

[Susquehana]

I read that, and its not an accusation. I still premise an assumption is being made on top of what was posted which is leading you to this conclusion.

Marketing is always done on purpose.

ok we will agree to disagree on what constitutes an accusation.

[hp1055cm]

The devs are not responding to this thread while the sale is active. Why do you think that is?Expect to see a response on Monday(possible) or no response at all (most likely)

My guess is they all have uska on ignore.

LOLZ.... Best response in this entire thread.

I am trying to,protect some people who may assume they will work when in fact they may not. Me I,don't care.

Just what these forums need... people who "don't care" chiming in to "protect" people too ignorant to look out for themselves.

If you really wanted to help people you could pose your question directly to Tur-bine and then come here to post the response.
It isn't necessary to stir up the drama by posting **** here in the forums.

[Susquehana]

The devs are not responding to this thread while the sale is active. Why do you think that is?Expect to see a response on Monday(possible) or no response at all (most likely)

now you can admit you were wrong.

[Silverleafeon]

We currently have no interest in putting restrictions on the Warlock in regard to reincarnation, but we would consider the community's preference if people felt strongly that there should be restrictions on the class for a period of time after it debuts.

I prefer no restrictions.

My main reason is that not everyone reads forums/ect and might plan out something not realizing it will not work. The resulting confusion and frustration could be bad for the health of the game.

Those considering a +20 heart will also consider triple past life bonuses resulting in two full lives regardless.

[xberto]

Honestly...I'd like to just to +20 LR into to it to keep my completetionist PM and then use another toon to actually try the class out.

So I'm all for...no restrictions for LRs, Vets and etc.

I don't want restrictions either. The only reason I purchased a +20 is to "bounce" through the new class to keep completionist. I'll play the Warlock grind with my caster alt toon.

[ToastyFred]

There should be restrictions based on the pnp class

He was asking about reincarnation restrictions and I answered his question.