I am now squelched. And you?

[Beherit_Baphomar]

Dude gets ****ed enough to drop group cause of one silly trap box?

Dude would be put on my list right away.

Da **** outta here.

[Grace_ana]

I think of the people I've squelched, it's usually because they were being a jerk to other people in the group. So, if you came across badly, you may be squelched by more than just him. Regardless, I couldn't care less if someone squelches me (and I'm sure some have). However, if I knew I genuinely was stupid with someone, I would apologize, squelch or no. The squelch does make it more difficult. If it's not someone you run into, I'd just let it go as lesson learned, because I'm not really sure how you would get them the message. But yeah, you were kinda not following Wheaton's Law, and you should not do that anymore.

[Connman]

Well I know it wasn't me, my squelch list has been full for quite some time now, so it takes a bit of effort to squelch someone.

[minorpenthes]

LOL, you might want to pick your kobold pictures a bit more carefully. That one seems to be a Nazi soldier.

Note how chaotic weapons affect kobolds, and given the German tendencies towards "ordnung" (and I say this having lived 18 years in Germany, speaking the language somewhat, and having some small experience with various historical trends) if kobolds could grow facial hair, it might be a toothbrush moustache. Do also note that the word "kobold" is, in fact, German.

I ain't saying. I'm just saying.

Which I probably should not do... Es tut mir leid, aber die kobolden sind ein bisschen Fascisten...

[Powskier]

LOL, you might want to pick your kobold pictures a bit more carefully. That one seems to be a Nazi soldier.

... nazis dont mind it, I imagine..... besides when you want viewer rating increase- hollywood almost always pulls out a nazi; they are good business, in show business. Hate is a better magnet than good.... did you watch the "Passion" for the 'good stuff'?

[UurlockYgmeov]

Note how chaotic weapons affect kobolds, and given the German tendencies towards "ordnung" (and I say this having lived 18 years in Germany, speaking the language somewhat, and having some small experience with various historical trends) if kobolds could grow facial hair, it might be a toothbrush moustache. Do also note that the word "kobold" is, in fact, German.

I ain't saying. I'm just saying.

Which I probably should not do... Es tut mir leid, aber die kobolden sind ein bisschen Fascisten...

Da!

... nazis dont mind it, I imagine..... besides when you want viewer rating increase- hollywood almost always pulls out a nazi; they are good business, in show business. Hate is a better magnet than good.... did you watch the "Passion" for the 'good stuff'?

[Braegan]

First,

True story! I remember leading a raid on a melee and at the end I told the blue bars I would swap toons and mail them some pots. IIRC it was for FoT when it was live for less than a full day so it was a bit crazy and learning curve and all. When I went to make good on my promise I had a stack returned to me because one of the divines had my main on squelch.

To the OP,

If you are presenting story as it was, than that little camper just needs to buck up. Now for real I can see and do believe holding back some jokes for those you are friends with/guildies/etc like those of a more grey area like racial/political/etc humor - where your friends might like but might rub a stranger the wrong way. That's a given! But a little in game jest over a trap being sprung? Look. We are getting way to overboard as it is with restriction of what you should say for some lingering fear you just might hurt someone's feelings but that is just ridiculous. Pretty soon you won't be able to joke around at all with any given matter just because someone might take offense. Nonsense. Get some thicker skin and buy a sense of humor.

And if some tiny in game joking about a trap ruins your day and whatnot, well you better buckle in buttercup because I feel you are in for a really rough ride IRL.

[minorpenthes]

Da!

Interesting, but Herr Schultz was not a National Socialist- he was really just an Everyman who got stuck between opposing forces. I would probably misconstrue orders, as well...

[Singular]

While it sounds like player X over-reacted quite a bit to the original situation, I'm really surprised that you haven't been squelched more often if you enjoy making fun of people like that.

As for if I've been squelched - I haven't tried to send someone a tell and seen that notification, but I suspect that I might have been a time or two. I love arguing with people too much - especially when they're wrong. Like the guy yesterday in another MMO who was trying to correct someone's English but who wasn't a native speaker himself. Not to say that some non-natives don't speak/write English better than natives, but in this situation that was definitely not the case. He was pretty upset that I called him on it and I wouldn't be surprised if he squelched me.

The "debate" forums, Topix, might be good fun for you.

[Zachski]

First,

True story! I remember leading a raid on a melee and at the end I told the blue bars I would swap toons and mail them some pots. IIRC it was for FoT when it was live for less than a full day so it was a bit crazy and learning curve and all. When I went to make good on my promise I had a stack returned to me because one of the divines had my main on squelch.

To the OP,

If you are presenting story as it was, than that little camper just needs to buck up. Now for real I can see and do believe holding back some jokes for those you are friends with/guildies/etc like those of a more grey area like racial/political/etc humor - where your friends might like but might rub a stranger the wrong way. That's a given! But a little in game jest over a trap being sprung? Look. We are getting way to overboard as it is with restriction of what you should say for some lingering fear you just might hurt someone's feelings but that is just ridiculous. Pretty soon you won't be able to joke around at all with any given matter just because someone might take offense. Nonsense. Get some thicker skin and buy a sense of humor.

And if some tiny in game joking about a trap ruins your day and whatnot, well you better buckle in buttercup because I feel you are in for a really rough ride IRL.

There is so much wrong with this post that I can't even begin to cover it.

Making fun of someone is not "a tiny in-game joke." You know what people call doing this to someone in real life repeatedly? Harassment.

You're the one who needs to buck up and realize that you are an adult and need to be responsible. Real life doesn't revolve around your jollies, and yeah, people are hurt by words. Why do you think we need so many therapists and have a depression epidemic?

[UurlockYgmeov]

Interesting, but Herr Schultz was not a National Socialist- he was really just an Everyman who got stuck between opposing forces. I would probably misconstrue orders, as well...

even more ironic - Sgt. Schultz was portrayed by John Banner who was originally from Austria, a Jew and who did spend time in an early Nazi concentration camp, emigrated to the US and served in the US Army Air Corp as a Supply Sergeant during WWII.

[Braegan]

There is so much wrong with this post that I can't even begin to cover it.

Making fun of someone is not "a tiny in-game joke." You know what people call doing this to someone in real life repeatedly? Harassment.

You're the one who needs to buck up and realize that you are an adult and need to be responsible. Real life doesn't revolve around your jollies, and yeah, people are hurt by words. Why do you think we need so many therapists and have a depression epidemic?

I did not advocate making fun of someone repeatedly. I did say making a light hearted joke about a series of events that transpire in game to offer some levity to a situation is perfectly acceptable. That is not harassment. Overuse and incorrect use of the term leads to more confusing and harder to deal with issues with consumer relations.

I am perfectly responsible. I do, however, think that folks need to lighten up just a bit. Have you ever stopped to consider the correlation between the time we became so very sensitive to what we said to the increase of mental health issues and over sensitivity?

I.E. Laughter is the best medicine. The more over sensitive folks become and unable to laugh at anything the more wrong we as a people become. If this was a joke that was at all in a grey area you would have my support. But, seriously folks need to lighten up some, life isn't that serious and was never meant to be taken as such.

[Azarddoze]

There is so much wrong with this post that I can't even begin to cover it.

Making fun of someone is not "a tiny in-game joke." You know what people call doing this to someone in real life repeatedly? Harassment.

You're the one who needs to buck up and realize that you are an adult and need to be responsible. Real life doesn't revolve around your jollies, and yeah, people are hurt by words. Why do you think we need so many therapists and have a depression epidemic?

Everyone noobs around at some point and this is a game. The problem isn't with those who won't restrain themselves from having fun IN GAMES (any opportunities are good imo), it's those that think this is more serious than it really is. There are in fact better players. There are in fact moments where you make mistakes.

Making fun of someone being bad at something is ok because it is what it is (up to a certain limit). Making fun of the individual by saying, say, he's ******** for being bad is another thing.

It's one thing to be rightful and act as a carebear by offering tips, but if you died in a trap then typed "lag" while everyone saw how flawless your connection was well duh, whatever the reason, you still died in a static trap. That's always funny even when it's me falling into it. I facepalm everytime.

These are games... sucking at those isn't detrimental to one's life success. Pointing out that someone is bad or having a good time with it is just that, pointing it out and having a good time. Until there are frictions in between individuals but that is a whole other thing.


Edit: The depression epidemic comes partially from people losing sight with who they are in an attempt to be perfect to others (any form of social pressure really) so early that they end up living a life where their actions and choices aren't necesseraly on-par with who they should truely be (which is what they foundamentally are). It creates an unbelievable constant flow of stress and incertitude which leads to various mental illness over mid or long term.

I read alot bout that, unfortunately my english isn't nearly good enought to make this sound even hypothetically reasonable I guess. And I know this is all sketchy, i'm not saying I 100% buy it but it kinda makes sense from what I observed of people growing up around me.

Fact is, people are doing it to themselves. Something said in-game, unless for a crazy insecure individual, will do nothing at all other than lead to a bad gaming experience. But that's to be expected as DDO forms a micro-society. Would we like gamers to be nicer to gamers overall? I guess so. But the better being snarky to the worse is sometimes what lead them to actually progress. It's not all bad when it's done in a way that it doesn't attack the very individual but only what has happened... in a game. Which all you can really take out of this is that you may not have the best hand-eye coordination, tactical game intelligence, knowledge of said game, etc. As you can see, it's not that bad when you think about it, however Mr. UnknowfromtheInternet wants to put it.

We shouldn't have to restrain ourselves so much in fear of hurting people with true inconsequential points. Some people need to simply understand what is consequential and what isn't. Then deal with it accordingly.


Btw, no i'm not defending over the top stupid behaviors which are worse.


Last late edit since RL is being brought: It's like playing any sport with a friend that is much worse than you. If he wants you to keep playing with him over time, he'll have to take a few jab and snarky comments here and there. That's all there might be for you to enjoy other than the time spent together. Now replace "friend" with "stranger" and over time becomes over very short time... like at first sign or some kind of fail if you prefer.

[Memnir]

[FranOhmsford]

I did not advocate making fun of someone repeatedly. I did say making a light hearted joke about a series of events that transpire in game to offer some levity to a situation is perfectly acceptable. That is not harassment. Overuse and incorrect use of the term leads to more confusing and harder to deal with issues with consumer relations.

I am perfectly responsible. I do, however, think that folks need to lighten up just a bit. Have you ever stopped to consider the correlation between the time we became so very sensitive to what we said to the increase of mental health issues and over sensitivity?

I.E. Laughter is the best medicine. The more over sensitive folks become and unable to laugh at anything the more wrong we as a people become. If this was a joke that was at all in a grey area you would have my support. But, seriously folks need to lighten up some, life isn't that serious and was never meant to be taken as such.

You've forgotten the golden rule False!

In text no-one can tell whether you're giving a gentle ribbing or being nasty!

Someone who knows you well enough may be able to figure it out, Someone who does that himself will accept it easily enough BUT someone who gets hacked on daily in real life may not want to take it in-game too!
A lot of D&D players are very likely to have been the butt of jokes in School and even at work - Expecting them to accept this sort of thing from complete strangers in a game is a step too far and if you have that much of a problem with being ignored you may want to change your own attitude rather than expecting them to change theirs!

[ClanBastage]

I have just been squelched and to my knowledge, it's only the second time in about 6 years of active DDO. Here's what happened, because I like to talk about myself.

^ Girls are so funny

[Powskier]

...we also do not know the mindset/state of mind the squelcher had? He or she ,could be on meds or something/drunk run/ bad homelife/ or normal ,and just didnt like the random tell .

[Vooduspyce]

Saw some mentions of the golden rule here. A few years ago I was introduced to a concept that was called the platinum rule. The golden rules states that you should treat others the way you want to be treated. The golden rule's fault is that it assumes everyone wants to be treated the way you do. In so many cases this just isn't true. The platinum rules says to treat others they way they want to be treated. A simple but profound difference. I love it.

[Tscheuss]

Saw some mentions of the golden rule here. A few years ago I was introduced to a concept that was called the platinum rule. The golden rules states that you should treat others the way you want to be treated. The golden rule's fault is that it assumes everyone wants to be treated the way you do. In so many cases this just isn't true. The platinum rules says to treat others they way they want to be treated. A simple but profound difference. I love it.

Chicken and egg problem, that. In order to find out how someone else wants to be treated, one must first treat with him/her.

[relenttless]

There is so much wrong with this post that I can't even begin to cover it.

Making fun of someone is not "a tiny in-game joke." You know what people call doing this to someone in real life repeatedly? Harassment.

You're the one who needs to buck up and realize that you are an adult and need to be responsible. Real life doesn't revolve around your jollies, and yeah, people are hurt by words. Why do you think we need so many therapists and have a depression epidemic?

Just to save you time:

Don't bother to join my guild, you wouldn't like it