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    Default Would love some feedback on a 34-PT monk TR build

    Here's a build I've tweaked around a bit in an attempt to make a solid solo monk, I'm not min/maxing and trying to make a glass cannon, or an absolute tank, but I just wanted to see what people thought about my lvl 1-20 blueprint so far:

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    lilbeast 
    Level 20 Lawful Good Halfling Male
    (1 Fighter \ 4 Paladin \ 15 Monk) 
    Hit Points: 250
    Spell Points: 59 
    BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
    Fortitude: 26
    Reflex: 20
    Will: 19
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
    Strength             14                 17                   17
    Dexterity            14                 17                   18
    Constitution         14                 14                   16
    Intelligence          8                  8                    8
    Wisdom               15                 17                   18
    Charisma             14                 14                   14
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 5
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
    Balance               2                  4                    7
    Bluff                 2                  2                    2
    Concentration         6                 22                   28
    Diplomacy             2                  2                    2
    Disable Device       n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                2                  2                    2
    Heal                  4                 13                   19
    Hide                  2                  4                    8
    Intimidate            2                  2                    3
    Jump                  2                  3                    8
    Listen                2                  4                    6
    Move Silently         2                  4                    6
    Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Repair               -1                 -1                   -1
    Search               -1                 -1                   -1
    Spellcraft           -1                 -1                   -1
    Spot                  2                  4                    4
    Swim                  2                  3                    3
    Tumble                n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      4                 13                   13
    
    Level 1 (Monk)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Heal (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Silver Flame
    
    
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Disciple of the Fist
    
    
    Level 4 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 5 (Paladin)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 7 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
    
    
    Level 9 (Monk)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 10 (Monk)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 11 (Monk)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
    
    
    Level 12 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 13 (Monk)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 14 (Monk)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 15 (Monk)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 17 (Monk)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 18 (Monk)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
    
    
    Level 19 (Monk)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 20 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Heal (+0.5)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Lesser Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Break Out The Leeches (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Greater Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Martial Arts (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Agility (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Protection from Tainted Creatures (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Hand (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Argent Fist (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Ki Shout (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Exemplar (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Fists of Iron (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Instinctive Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Violence Begets Violence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Meditation of War (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Empty Hand Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Slayer of Evil I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Attack Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)

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    Looks solid for the most part. A few comments:

    - I'm not sure why you're taking Quicken Spell, that seems pointless on this build. A much better option is to take Empower Healing - it works with the Halfling Dragonmarks.
    - A few of your enhancement choices are abilities that, in my experience, don't provide a lot of value. Ki Shout and Instinctive Defence, specifically. Dropping those gives you 4 AP.
    - You take 2 tiers of Sneak Attack Training in the ninja tree, but it's cheaper in the Halfling tree (1 AP per tier vs 2). Even with the requirement to take 1 level of Halfling Cunning, you could still get 3 tiers of it from Halfling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercureal View Post
    Looks solid for the most part. A few comments:

    - I'm not sure why you're taking Quicken Spell, that seems pointless on this build. A much better option is to take Empower Healing - it works with the Halfling Dragonmarks.
    - A few of your enhancement choices are abilities that, in my experience, don't provide a lot of value. Ki Shout and Instinctive Defence, specifically. Dropping those gives you 4 AP.
    - You take 2 tiers of Sneak Attack Training in the ninja tree, but it's cheaper in the Halfling tree (1 AP per tier vs 2). Even with the requirement to take 1 level of Halfling Cunning, you could still get 3 tiers of it from Halfling.
    Thanks for the feedback, I think for Ki shout I just needed AP spent in the Knight of the Chalice tree, but I'll see if I can clean up my enhancements a bit. I took Quicken to help out my dragon marks for quick healing, I have died a few times mid-cast on heals before but I might trade this off to shore up my defenses a bit more instead of worrying about healing.

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    Well, the nice thing about the enhancement system is that it's cheap and fairly quick to reset, lets you try out all sorts of options. You might want to try out Kukan-Do at some point since you going to Tier 5 in Shintao, if you haven't already. It worked pretty well on my Chr dumped Monk and would be better on your since you put some points into it.

    On Quicken, while it's very useful for actual spells, my experience is that the DMs cast a lot faster than spells and can't be interrupted - at least I've never seen it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercureal View Post
    Well, the nice thing about the enhancement system is that it's cheap and fairly quick to reset, lets you try out all sorts of options. You might want to try out Kukan-Do at some point since you going to Tier 5 in Shintao, if you haven't already. It worked pretty well on my Chr dumped Monk and would be better on your since you put some points into it.

    On Quicken, while it's very useful for actual spells, my experience is that the DMs cast a lot faster than spells and can't be interrupted - at least I've never seen it.
    Fair point, I don't know if I want to invest more AP in getting Kukan-do, since I already have stunning fist and I'm investing points in WIS anyway, although I will take another look at getting it.

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