Some Repeater Builds

[maddong]

Half-elf Rogue 18/Bard 2
S 8
D 16 + 5 tome for combat archery
C 14
I 18 + level ups
W 8
C 8
1 not sure dilettante matters
1 rapid reload
3 point blank shot
6 rapid shot
9 precision
12 improved critical ranged
15 precise shot
18 empower healing (for cocoon)
21 overwhelming critical
24 improved precise shot
27 combat archery
Non FOTW AP:
half-elf 1 ap (human damage boost)
harper agent 8 ap (kta 3 ranks)
mechanic 37 ap (sharpshooter, rapid fire 3, mechanical reloader, fletching 3, int +2, leg shot, expert builder)
assassin 23 ap (killer 3, crit master 3, sneak training 3, int +1, damage boost 3, venomed blades 3)
swash 8 ap (doubleshot boost 30%)
acrobat 3 ap (run speed)

Doubleshot during boost (stack human damage for +20 RP with doubleshot):
10 rapid fire
20 killer
30 boost
10 feat
9 past life primal x3
8 skirmisher's bracers (easy to get example)
2 guild boost
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89 doubleshot

If repeater really gets doubleshot on every bolt you will have a lot of 6 shots....
If it doesn't then that may favor greatcrossbow at those insane doubleshot levels.

[unbongwah]

I thought Swashbuckler was the only PrE with Doubleshot Action Boost; did NW get changed?

[giftie]

I thought Swashbuckler was the only PrE with Doubleshot Action Boost; did NW get changed?

No. NW is still Doublestrike.

[maddong]

No. NW is still Doublestrike.

Shoot, bard works then.

[AtomicMew]

Seems like on the rogue builds, 18 rogue/2 arti is the only split worth considering. It's just a huge loss of DPS without rune arm.

[Deathdefy]

I'm going to spruik a non-max repeater dps hybrid, so sue me.

I'm personally going to do 20 Rogue - 41 Assassin (T5 + capstone), 31 Mechanic (expert builder), 8 Harper (KTA 3/3) for an epic life or two.

The literally 10DC better assassinate (2 DC from Rogue levels + 3 DC from Capstone + 5 DC from Measure the Foe) over 18 Rogue /2 Arti makes it the only real option for a mechanic/assassin in my view. You lose faster movement from acrobat which is not good at all survivability-wise, but c'est la vie. The joy of blinding something with a repeater then sneaking in and assassinating it cannot be understated.

I agree with Mew about 18 Rogue / 2 Arti being optimal dps on a repeater rogue build though. I doubt some crazy doubleshot thing would compare given the 2/3 reduction on it for repeaters.
As a great crossbow build I'd be listening re: a rogue + bard / druid doubleshot thing, but they really don't interest me since I like Rad II + Sneak Attack even in EEs, which is always going to be more effective with a repeater.

Opinions:
I don't love T5 Mechanic. I think it's the best T5 for raw repeater dps (outside of T5 AA for FoTW builds), but it's not amazing (which, to me, argues in favour of going T5 Assassin since Int synergy ftw).

I hate Rapid Shot for repeater builds and think it does virtually nothing but burn a feat.

Wracking Shot 3/3 is awesome for freebie +1[W] every 4 seconds (basically every 2nd repeater burst, with Leg Shot +2[W] spam taking up about another 1/4 of repeater bursts). It also does actually pwn constructs too but no one really cares about that.

[unbongwah]

Seems like on the rogue builds, 18 rogue/2 arti is the only split worth considering. It's just a huge loss of DPS without rune arm.

Rog 18 / bard 2 is about losing some sustained DPS for better burst DPS. Pure rog vs rog 18 / arty 2 seems like a DPS wash to me: +2/3 dmg (inc. +2 INT) and +3d6 SA (1d6 rog 19, 2d6 capstone) vs +2d10 RA imbue and possibly +2/3 dmg from BE if you can spare the APs. Since charged shots scale w/# of arty lvls, I don't consider them a significant DPS contributor here.

So it seems to me to be more about which has more utility: 4th rog bonus feat and extra skill pts; vs free Rapid Reload, extra crafting slot on RA, and access to metamagics (e.g., on a BF rog 18 / arty 2, take Quicken for Reconstruct SLA). A rog 18 / arty 2 with Energy Burst might also make for some fun LOLs.