Redsonja 3.0 U25 - TWF Pure Barb

[huey9187]

whats the best gear setup now with all the new stuff?

[Jasparion]

Sure, I guess, but what weapon would you use instead of khopeshes?

I was thinking the new Handaxes - Morninglord (I have one with Mythic and Reaper) and the Sinister one for off hand.

Im deciding whether to go a TWF Barbarian or maybe a centered Monk/Fighter.

[adrian69]

I was thinking the new Handaxes - Morninglord (I have one with Mythic and Reaper) and the Sinister one for off hand.

Im deciding whether to go a TWF Barbarian or maybe a centered Monk/Fighter.

Unless you're Swashing Kensei or Swashbucklering, Hand Axes are full of awes (awful) compared to khopeshes' profile. Centered Kensei>Barbarian for epics. Heroics don't matter.

[unbongwah]

Quick update by request:

RedSonja (U37)
Barbarian 20
True Neutral Human


Stats
               36pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength        18       +5       4: STR
Dexterity       12       +5       8: STR
Constitution    18       +5      12: STR
Intelligence     8       +5      16: STR
Wisdom           8       +5      20: STR
Charisma         8       +5      24: STR
                                 28: STR

Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Intim     4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1     2  23
Swim                        1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1        12
Heal         1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1  1  1  11
Spot      1  1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1  11
Balance   2     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     11
UMD       2     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     11
Tumble    1                                                            1
         ------------------------------------------------------------
         16  5  5  5  5  5  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6  6


Feats

 1        : Power Attack
 1 Human  : Cleave
 3        : Two Weapon Fighting
 6        : Great Cleave
 9        : Improved Critical: Slashing
12        : Exotic Weapon: Khopesh
15        : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
18        : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic   : Stunning Blow
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction OR Armor Proficiency: Heavy
28 Destiny: First Blood OR Elusive Target
29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Deific Warding
30 Epic   : Completionist OR Epic Fortitude
30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea


Enhancements (80+1 AP)

Frenzied Berserker (41 AP)
Die Hard, Frenzied Toughness, Frenzy, Frenzied Toughness II, Death Frenzy, Storm's Eye
Extra Rage III, Cracking Attack III, Power Rage III, Athletics III
Blood Tribute III, Extra Action Boost III, Sprint Boost III
Blood Trail III, Supreme Cleave III, Constitution
Wade In III

Ravager (39 AP)
Furious Rage, Pain Touch, Demoralizing Success, Pain Touch II, Subsiding Fury
Do You Like Pain? III, Barbarian Power Attack III, Hardy Rage III
I Like Pain III, Cruel Cut III, Melee Power Boost III
Festering Wound III, Strength
Dismember III
Blood Strength, Uncanny Balance, Critical Rage II

Human (1 AP)
Damage Boost

Leveling Guide
Hum0 Damage Boost; FB0 Die Hard; FB1 Power Rage I; FB1 Extra Rage I
FB1 Extra Rage II; FB2 Blood Tribute I, II, III
FB0 Frenzied Toughness; FB2 Sprint Boost I; FB3 Supreme Cleave I, II
FB3 Supreme Cleave III; Rav0 Furious Rage; Rav1 Barbarian Power Attack I, II
Rav1 Barbarian Power Attack III; Rav1 Do You Like Pain? I; Rav0 Pain Touch; Rav2 Melee Power Boost I
FB0 Frenzy; Rav2 Melee Power Boost II, III; Rav2 I Like Pain I
Rav0 Demoralizing Success; Rav1 Hardy Rage I, II, III
Rav1 Do You Like Pain? II; Rav2 I Like Pain II; Rav1 Do You Like Pain? III; Rav2 I Like Pain III
Rav3 Strength; Rav2 Cruel Cut I, II
Rav2 Cruel Cut III; Rav3 Festering Wound I, II, III
Rav4 Dismember I, II, III; (Bank 1 AP)
Rav0 Pain Touch II; Rav5 Blood Strength; Rav5 Critical Rage I
Rav5 Critical Rage II; Rav5 Uncanny Balance
FB3 Blood Trail I, II, III; FB1 Extra Rage III
FB2 Extra Action Boost I, II, III; FB0 Frenzied Toughness II
FB4 Wade In I, II, III; FB2 Sprint Boost II
FB1 Power Rage II, III
Rav0 Subsiding Fury; FB0 Death Frenzy; FB3 Constitution
FB2 Sprint Boost III; FB1 Cracking Attack I, II, III
FB1 Athletics I, II, III; FB0 Storm's Eye    


Destiny (24 AP)

Legendary Dreadnought
Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III, Strength
Momentum Swing III, Imp. Power Attack
Lay Waste, Haste Boost III
(none)
Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
Master's Blitz

Twists of Fate (36 fate points)
Balanced Attacks (Tier 3 Primal)
Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
Sacred Ground (Tier 3 Crusader)
Consecration (Tier 2 Crusader)

With the forthcoming buff to Shadowdancer - cores are being boosted from 24 Melee Power to 60 MP - I thought it might be a fun alternative for TWF barbs: Evasion, Shadow Form (25% Incorporealty), and +6d6 sneak attacks (which favor TWF and have 150% Melee Power scaling). In which case, I would build for Scion of the Ethereal Plane and max out Hide for the extra sneak atks at lvl 30. Have to mull that one over...

[Mairsil]

What weapons are we supposed to use before 12 if that's when we pick up Khopesh proficiency?

[unbongwah]

What weapons are we supposed to use before 12 if that's when we pick up Khopesh proficiency?

Either 2H weapons or regular 1H weapons like scimitars / rapiers.

Note that with the recent changes to the barb trees - namely the buffs to the crit bonuses in the FB and OS trees - it may be worth respeccing into a different AP spread, depending on which weapons you like to use. OS is now a good alternative to Crit Rage for khopeshes (16-18/x4 19-20/x5), while Focused Wrath is a good choice for scimitars / rapiers (15-20/x4 crit threat range).

[Mairsil]

Thank you so much!

[troublegurl]

How would the stats be as a 32 point build no tomes and what would be the best weapon?
Thank you in advance.

[unbongwah]

How would the stats be as a 32 point build no tomes and what would be the best weapon?

Only stat pre-req is DEX for TWF feats. How you get there is up to you; e.g. start STR 18 DEX 16 CON 14 put 1st level-up into DEX rest into STR.

Alternatively, do a SWF version for a first-lifer and HTR into a 34-pt TWF version once you have a +2 DEX tome.

[troublegurl]

Only stat pre-req is DEX for TWF feats. How you get there is up to you; e.g. start STR 18 DEX 16 CON 14 put 1st level-up into DEX rest into STR.

Alternatively, do a SWF version for a first-lifer and HTR into a 34-pt TWF version once you have a +2 DEX tome.

Thank you

[Morrissey87]

Only stat pre-req is DEX for TWF feats. How you get there is up to you; e.g. start STR 18 DEX 16 CON 14 put 1st level-up into DEX rest into STR.

Alternatively, do a SWF version for a first-lifer and HTR into a 34-pt TWF version once you have a +2 DEX tome.

I really like your build I'm trying it now with a first life and I put 18 STR 15 DEX and CON and will use the favor +2 to dex tome, it can be an option.
I also postponed great cleave in favor of khopesh proficiency but I don't think it's necessary, could have started with swords until there.

Also do you think Half-Orc could be viable? one less feat but with Racial points if you have them could be interesting.